Posts by FFGhost

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EXPLOSIVE NEW LEAKED VIDEO OF C.O. CHASTISING ELDERS

by raymond frantz in

jw
friends

https://youtu.be/np05twylal8?si=wjcdevvpxmlwxb2p.

shame is an ancient form of control.

shame is the mechanism used to control behaviour.

FFGhost

Good lord.

I cringed so hard I think I pulled a muscle (sorry).

The ability of the WTS to shoot itself in the foot never ceases to amaze me.

As noted in the earlier post on this thread, if this were rigorously enforced, they’d lose half their elders and three-fourths of their MS overnight.

The true believer elders, the ones they want to keep, would see this and think “OMG, I’ve offended Jehovah, I must confess immediately and lose my privileges in order to keep my precious relationship with Jah”.

The PIMOs, the cynics, the power hungry narcissists, the ones they don’t really want, would see this and think “dang, I better clear my browser and search history ASAP” or at the very least, “if I have any problems with my laptop or phone, I am absolutely never giving it to a fellow JW for repairs”.

Well done, whoever is leaking these.

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New instructions on not using sisters to manage KH computer ?

by fifth.column in

since covid in france, especially in the countryside with lack of brothers, it was quite common that some sisters were using the computer at the back of the kingdom hall to manage zoom session.. i heard a rumor that new instructions, maybe a july letter, stated that this was reserved for male only, even unbaptised publishers, but no sister if there is at least a male available.

that would be a steps back and disappointment for these sisters.

last week i heard at my mom’s house how they were happy that this service was available for them, a proof that the org was moving forward.

FFGhost

Yeah, that’s right.

In a lot of places in Europe (maybe elsewhere too?), post-COVID, they started using “sisters” to run mics and run the sound desk, because there just simply weren’t enough “brothers” present at the KH.

Evidently, the branch offices found that horrific, or at least embarrassing, so in the monthly “announcements and reminders” to congregations (July 2024, sent just this week), they put the kibosh on the practice.

The letter says that “baptized brothers in their early teens or younger” could be used for such “practical tasks”. And that congregations must “contact the circuit overseer for direction before using sisters”.

All that, of course, is in the “elders only” section of the letter, NOT to be read to the congregation.

I can think of more than a few sisters who are going to be “bent out of shape” when these recent “privileges” are suddenly yanked away.

I was thinking, maybe, that the borg was considering increasing the role of sisters in the congregations, starting with mics & sound desk, and conceivably, after many years, possibly even opening up the way for them to be ministerial servants. I always thought it odd how 1 Timothy 3:11 specifically addressing “women” was plopped directly in the middle of the list of requirements for MS in 1 Tim. 3:8-13. I thought, maybe, with the loosening restrictions on field service reports and dress codes, they might, after a suitably long time, open the door for “sisters” to have even more responsibilities.

Alas, I should have known better.

An 11 year old baptized boy “outranks” Sister Pioneer with 40+ years of experience. Thus shall it ever be so in WT-world.

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JW Ranking System

by NotFormer in

it's fairly evident to little old outsider me that the organisation has a class system, perhaps even a caste system.. from what i've read, there seems to not only be an official ranking system (m.s., elder, c.o.

) but an unofficial one.

has anyone ever sat down to figure out what the unofficial ranks are and how they affect the pecking order?

FFGhost

A (slightly obsolete) oldie but goodie:

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/2671/updated-list-watchtower-ranks-classes

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My guess for August WatchTower: GB claims we're in beginning stages of Great Tribulation due to World governments turning on JW's

by WingCommander in

jw
friends

the september watchtower has already been released and is being discussed over on reddit.

some highlights: .

1. more hitting the flock on total reliance and obedience to god's representatives on earth today, the f&ds (the governing body, of course).

FFGhost

Here’s what I can’t figure out….

OK, so “something came up” and they need to do an extensive rewrite of at least some of the information for the scheduled August WT.

It’s so extensive it may require an extra month, or even two months of writing, editing, rewriting, etc.

Meanwhile, work continues on the September WT and October WT. In fact, that content is finished before the rewrites of the August mag.

Why can’t they just take the September WT, swap out the date in the cover and footers, and name <what was the September WT> as <the new August WT>?

What is so special about “August”? Why not just switch up the order a bit so the rewritten articles get dumped into a WT with a later date?

The obvious apparent answer is “they want these rewritten articles to be studied in October, not earlier, not later, but exactly in October”.

But why? What possible difference could it make? WT articles are dull, bland, uninteresting and perfectly interchangeable. If a local KH were to decide to study, I don’t know, an article from March 2018 at this week’s meeting, anyone who didn’t have a copy of the current WT in front of them would have no idea.

There has to be a reason why THOSE articles HAVE TO be in the AUGUST WT, but I just can’t think of what it could be.

Any ideas out there?

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They must also change the treatment of those who dissociate themselves from the JWs. It is inevitable

by LaFrancia in

from reddit ex jw, a user posted this material of a hypothetical new light on dissociated people......i'm posting it only for the record, nothing else is known.

it seems that the topic has been deleted either by the moderators or by the user himself.

understanding dissociation in light of the scriptures.

FFGhost

Yeah, that’s not from any “secret” or “recalled” Watchtower article.

There are literally dozens of clues indicating this was not written by any JW.

The most glaring is the reference to “Jehovah’s grace”. Anyone who has spent more than 15 minutes with a JW knows that JWs absolutely never ever ever EVER use the term “grace” in connection with God - too much like “Christendom”.

There are, as I mentioned, lots of other clues.

“Jesus asked the Twelve, you don’t want to leave too, do you?”

— not an exact quote

— WT writers never use contractions

— WT would never capitalize “Twelve”

Etc.

”They are no longer considered part of Jehovah’s Witnesses”.

That’s just bad grammar. Say what you will about the Writing department, grammatically they are nowhere near that sloppy (granted, some of their sentences ARE quite tortured - but still, they are never near that bad).

Sorry, these paragraphs are just the deluded ramblings of a wishful apostate’s mind.

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Who knows the "Kinemo Kit Corporation"

by chasson in

from the wt of october 1, 1921 p. 303:.

"nouncement.

was made concerning the makfng of certain film to be exhibited.

FFGhost

Wow, did you watch the pyramid video?

Attention, all JW trolls, lurkers, and site monitors:

THAT is the kind of ludicrous horse puckey that the WTS was at least endorsing if not producing back 100+ years ago, when Jesus supposedly determined that THIS group, out of every organization on earth, was the one that most closely fit his idea of a “faithful and discreet slave”.

Just absolute bat-$hi+ bonkers, then (and now).

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I am not redsetter, here is his message for you

by redsetter2 in

you read this correctly.

as i explained in an earlier post, i am a "ghostwriter" for the original resetter.

i'm a woman, a pimo regular pioneer working for my friend who was redsetter1 on reddit.

FFGhost

Oh, and in addition to my previous comments about how the reduced hour requirements lead to less activity and, hardly surprising, even less productivity….

There’s the whole “we just don’t know, Jehovah will do what is right” Hoo-ha regarding last minute repentance and those who have never received a witness (literally billions of people) during the great tribulation.

Tell me again, where is the incentive to preach and/or conduct more Bible studies, if that work on “this side” of the GT is essentially meaningless?

For all this talk about a “10 year plan”, all I see is evidence of bumbling decisions, thrashing about and throwing things out there to see what might work, in panicked reaction to circumstances.

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I am not redsetter, here is his message for you

by redsetter2 in

you read this correctly.

as i explained in an earlier post, i am a "ghostwriter" for the original resetter.

i'm a woman, a pimo regular pioneer working for my friend who was redsetter1 on reddit.

FFGhost

LOL at “number of Bible studies is decreasing”

Reduce pioneer hours to literally 1/2 of what it was a generation (sorry) ago, reduce auxiliary pioneer hours to a quarter of the old amount, stop requiring any hour count at all from the other 90% of JWs…..thus removing virtually all incentive, however misguided it was, to actually, you know, do anything in field serve-us…

Garsh, who’d a thunk it?

In the words of the great philosopher Gomer Pyle:

“Surprise, surprise, surprise!”

I know the gibbering bobbleheads have someone to monitor this site as well as Reddit, so allow me to address them directly:

<Ahem>

Idiots.

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JW Expanded Volunteer Activities?

by doinmypart in

jw
friends

i think the gb needs to expand publishers' volunteer activities beyond door knocking.. gb has shifted away from door-knocking to more varied forms of witnessing and no longer counting time for publishers.

my prediction is that the gb will start encouraging jws to participate in broader community volunteer efforts: clean-up drives, food banks, senior citizen support, and other non-proselytizing activities.

this move could help them gain goodwill with government agencies and the public.. expanding volunteer activities could significantly shift how jws are perceived by the wider community.

FFGhost

It’s an interesting idea, especially since the new “check the box” monthly report doesn’t mention “preaching” explicitly but instead it says “any form of the ministry”.

On the other hand, aside from the change in the view of social interaction with “worldly” folks mentioned above, it’s particularly difficult to thread the “Jehovah is going to slaughter 8 billion plus people very soon now” needle with the “but until they are slaughtered, we ought to feed them soup” thread.

But who knows? They are definitely transitioning into [something] - maybe that something, many years from now, might be something more socially friendly.

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consequences for going against the direction.

by jehovaxx in

there are no serious consequences for doubting the gb.

there are no consequences for going against the direction.

we can now celebrate anything.. what will happen if you take blood, celebrate xmas and birthdays ect?.

FFGhost

The largest change could be summed up by saying in the past it was upto what the elders thought about if they were repentant

now it’s what they say.

The more I think about not only what the new s-395 says, but the tone and the implications, the “reading between the lines” if you will…

I think that’s what the WTS has in mind. They appear to trying to make it so that being disfellowshipped almost never occurs.

The tone and wording of the form is just about the polar opposite of what the current procedure in the elder manual is.

The WTS is starting a transition into [something else]. They are rolling out these changes quickly, but with just enough restraint so as not to give “the vapors” to long-timers.