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  Just wondering

  by Iamallcool in

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  can someone with dementia get disfellowshipped?.

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  FFGhost

  Elders are supposed to take extenuating circumstances into account, and dementia would most definitely fit that.

  I recall a DO (yes many years ago) explaining the "rule of thumb" was that if the person was capable of living independently, they would be "accountable" for DFing - can he hold a job? Care for his own personal hygiene? etc. If so, then he can face a judicial committee.

  So regarding dementia, it would largely depend where on the spectrum of dementia the person fell. If mild, the person might well be considered "accountable". If farther along, probably not.

  That said, the "quality" of elders varies wildly. Some are incredibly proud, or egotistical, or stupid, or on a power trip, or "all of the above". It's an absolute crapshoot which 3 elders end up on a committee - often it's whichever 3 have openings in their schedule for a particular evening or the 3 who most recently haven't "handled" any judicial cases.

  So, it would not surprise me one scintilla if some, or many, judicial committees ended up DFing folks with more severe dementia, mental illness, brain damage, you name it.
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  Butchered pronunciation

  by road to nowhere in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  since it is my turn (wife) to have the assembly streamed they start with the music.. i have never in 70 years heard it called a "pree-lood".

  twice, morning and afternoon..

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  FFGhost

  One of my all-time favorites was when the heavy elder (in more ways than one) was reading for the book study. The lesson for the week was on Jeremiah and his secretary Baruch.

  Baruch, based on the punctuation marks in the text and the way it is read on the WT website, is pronounced BEAR-uk.

  This guy somehow got it into is head that it was Bear-OOK.

  There were a few paragraphs where Baruch's name appeared 6 or 7 times. So it was a constant stream of Bear-OOK, Bear-OOK, Bear-OOK, Bear-OOK.....

  So, now it's time for the conductor to ask the question on the paragraph, which, naturally enough, included the name Baruch.

  What to do? If he pronounces it the right way, it will publicly "show up" Brother Heavyweight. And then he'll get a firm scolding after the meeting about the proper time and place to give counsel, "Don't you dare ever correct me in public ever again", etc. etc. etc.

  Ugh, he thinks. So what does he do? He reads the question referring to Bear-OOK.

  Now, the audience. Many / most folks know it's pronounced BEAR-uk, right? Right? Well, um, now two elders are pronouncing it Bear-OOK, they're more spiritual, they must know better, so here goes my comment: "Well, you see, Bear-OOK being Bear-OOK, Bear-OOK decided to...."

  The whole #$%#%FF! night. Bear-OOK, Bear-OOK, Bear-OOK, Bear-OOK......
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  Watchtower January 2022 The Memorial

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  next years memorial article focuses on the two class system that they promote.. interestingly, they mention how the anointed are in two covenants.

  the new covenant and the kingdom covenant.

  they claim that both of these covenants opened up the way for a small number to become kings and priests in heaven.

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  FFGhost

  I love these types of articles.

  "All of those who who partake of the emblems nowadays are deluded fools or insane or emotionally disturbed. Except we 8 on the GB, of course, we're all perfectly normal."
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  Jesus is a horse?

  by Diogenesister in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  jgnat posted this in one of punky's posts.

  third century.

  why is jesus portrayed as a horse, does anyone know please?.

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  FFGhost

  IIRC, it is 3rd century graffiti, intended as an insult to Christians. It shows the Christian God (Jesus) portrayed as a donkey nailed to a cross.
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  Watchtower More Important than the Scriptures

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  mack moore ex-jw recovery writes:.

  yes, that is how they want people to esteem the magazine.

  they believe it is the unique mouthpiece of god.

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  FFGhost

  And the higher you go in the organization, the more they rely on "the organization".

  Elders are taught to research what "the slave says" about a matter, rather than to do Bible research.
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  Can non JWs be witnesses in a committee meeting?

  by mickbobcat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am not sure but i know where non jws have been brought in for a witness to a judicial meeting.

  what is the official policy on this?

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  FFGhost

  Non-JWs can be used as eyewitnesses to establish the "two witness" bit. But as noted above, it's as "witness for the prosecution" only.

  The judicial committee is primarily there to cast judgment on the "genuineness" of the repentance of the accused, as if that were somehow possible.

  EDIT: Just got to add, I would think that inviting a "worldly" person to a JW judicial committee would be the number one, absolutely fool-proof method to inoculate that "worldly person" from ever joining the JW nuthouse.
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  I showed on of my JW (True Believers) that Kingdom Halls will be opening soon. He had a fit!

  by pistolpete in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so i showed one of my older uncles the link on jw.org.. https://www.jw.org/en/news/jw/region/global/the-governing-body-announces-that-some-in-person-meetings-will-resume-in-select-areas/.

  keep in mind that this is one of the relatives that is a true believer and used every excuse you can think of for the cancellation of all kingdom hall meetings.

  and he also used every scriptural argument you can make up to justify the end of the door to door ministry.

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  FFGhost

  I heard at least one congregation in Sweden was also part of the "pilot program".
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  Could end of November be special?

  by Kosonen in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  did you know that noah entered the ark in the end part of november and also that jesus' followers flead jerusalem around 25th of november 66ce?.

  could it be that a significant group of jehovah's witnesses would begin to flee to the "wilderness" in the end of november?

  revelation 12 speaks about a flight of a symbolic woman to a wilderness.

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  FFGhost

  Let me guess:

  The end of November is when we advance from "the end is very very soon now" to "the end is very very VERY soon now"?
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  Suggested movies for the new Jehovah's Witness Movie Studio to undertake once built.

  by was a new boy in

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  2. friends

  title: אחות מתזמן (sister scheduler) .

  אחות מתזמן would be based on 1 kings 11:3.. 'he had seven hundred wives of royal birth and three hundred concubines' .

  אחות מתזמן job is to arrange solomon quality time with his legal babes.

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  FFGhost

  Maybe they'll produce the NC-17 version of "Bath-Sheba: Bathing Queen"
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  I showed on of my JW (True Believers) that Kingdom Halls will be opening soon. He had a fit!

  by pistolpete in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so i showed one of my older uncles the link on jw.org.. https://www.jw.org/en/news/jw/region/global/the-governing-body-announces-that-some-in-person-meetings-will-resume-in-select-areas/.

  keep in mind that this is one of the relatives that is a true believer and used every excuse you can think of for the cancellation of all kingdom hall meetings.

  and he also used every scriptural argument you can make up to justify the end of the door to door ministry.

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  FFGhost

  Maybe these places are what they are planning to reopen.

  There's reddit pages out there - the ones we know about so far are in Hong Kong and some parts of Australia.