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  Jehovah's Witnesses lose registration as a religious community in Norway

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://www.statsforvalteren.no/nb/oslo-og-viken/folk-og-samfunn/tros--og-livssynssamfunn/jehovas-vitner-taper-registrering-som-trossamfunn/.

  published december 22, 2022. the state manager in oslo and viken has decided to withdraw jehovah's witnesses registration as a religious community under the religious society act.. .

  we sent a notice to jehovah's witnesses about possible loss of registration on october 25 this year.

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  FFGhost

  Others have noted, and I tend to agree, that it’s not so much about the loss of money in a nation where they don’t have much of a footprint anyway (less than 1/5 of 1% of their members live there).

  What is likely more troubling is the precedent it sets. If a European country determines that JWs are not to be a recognized religion due to their disfellowshipping policy, what’s to stop other nations from doing the same, perhaps with more dire consequences (loss of tax exemption? Loss of property?).

  Expect them to fight this with everything they’ve got. They’ll defend their “right” to control members through the blackmail of enforced shunning to their dying breath. Without that level of control the whole shebang dies.
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  Search Warrants Issued for KH & Residence, CSA Arrest

  by Tahoe in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

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  full article .

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  FFGhost

  There was a case in Illinois I think? Maybe 8-10 years ago, a JW <elder or MS, I forget> was arrested and charged with some child molestation offense.

  Bethel called the local congregation and commanded that they send 3 elders to the jail where he was being held, I $#!+ you not, to disfellowship him on the spot. Primarily so they could refer to him as a “former member” in their “official” comments to the press.

  Folks who have been on this site a long time may remember the case. Someone more adept than me could probably find the old posts here.

  Anyway, I suspect something similar will happen to Brother Swisher.

  Looks like someone will need to cover his CLAM assignments for the foreseeable future.
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  2022-12-19--Vaccination Requirement!

  by Atlantis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  2022-12-19--vaccination requirement.. .

  click image to enlarge.. .

  https://postimg.cc/xxvbcwdv .

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  FFGhost

  “Kingdom Ministry School” is one day, held every year or 2, all elders are invited.

  ”School for Congregation Elders” is 5 days, typically an elder is invited once every 5 years (they only do a subset of elders in each school)
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  Watchtower Study : Jehovah Is Helping You To Succeed

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the watchtower—study edition | january 2023. study article 3. jehovah is helping you to succeed.

  how jehovah makes you successful.

  13. does jehovah intervene in every situation we face?

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  FFGhost

  “Jehovah gave us exactly what we needed”

  I dunno, if my son were dying of cancer, I think “exactly what I need” would be more along the lines of “a cure” moreso than “Joe Palooka hangin’ out in the waiting room”.

  I think you can draw a direct correlation line between “how worthy is this divine being of worship” and “how feeble are the excuses given by his adherents for his inaction”.
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  Pioneer hour requirement returns

  by FFGhost in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so, just posted on jw.borg:.

  as of march 2023, the hour requirement for pioneers, which was suspended during the pandemic, will once again be enforced.. elders will review the activity of all pioneers in june 2023. if it appears that any do not have a “practical schedule” (aren’t getting at least close to 70 hours per month”), elders are to “kindly and frankly discuss their circumstances”.. what’s that sound that seems like a torpedo plane diving on its target?

  that’s the sound of the number of regular pioneers in complete free fall .

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  FFGhost

  So, just posted on JW.borg:

  As of March 2023, the hour requirement for pioneers, which was suspended during the pandemic, will once again be enforced.

  Elders will review the activity of all pioneers in June 2023. If it appears that any do not have a “practical schedule” (aren’t getting at least close to 70 hours per month”), elders are to “kindly and frankly discuss their circumstances”.

  What’s that sound that seems like a torpedo plane diving on its target? That’s the sound of the number of regular pioneers in complete free fall
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  Norway: Society hires a Law Firm

  by Festus in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  maybe society's own lawyers are so bad that they need to hire top notch lawyer's.. funny i thought jehoober would not need any help.. anyway here are the links.

  media.

  jehovas vitner mistet statsstøtten – vil saksøke staten – vårt land (vl.no).

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  LOL, yeah, it’s even more craven than “we want free money”; instead, it is “we will fight until our dying breath to maintain our ability to blackmail you (via threat of shunning and alienation of affection) into submission to us”.
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  Norway: Society hires a Law Firm

  by Festus in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  maybe society's own lawyers are so bad that they need to hire top notch lawyer's.. funny i thought jehoober would not need any help.. anyway here are the links.

  media.

  jehovas vitner mistet statsstøtten – vil saksøke staten – vårt land (vl.no).

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  FFGhost

  So if I’m following this correctly, correct me if I’m wrong, but…

  The WTS will be spending untold thousands or 10s of thousands of dollars (or the equivalent in krone) to try to coerce a government, that per their own teaching is under Satan’s control, into giving them free money?

  Do I have that right?

  Hoo boy, that takes a lot of of….something….to spin that into “oh how we are being persecuted”.
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  Two gems from February 2023 Study Watchtower

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  february 2023 study watchtower: .

  p. 16, par.

  5 - ”when we base our discussions on material published by jehovah’s organization, (not the bible!

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  FFGhost

  Lol at that picture + description.

  Anyone remember “Highlights” magazine? Maybe I’m dating myself. I always read it when I was a little kid waiting for my turn at the dentist’s office.

  That picture & description is exactly a “Goofus and Gallant” cartoon from “Highlights”.

  Just when you think they can’t dumb down the message any lower….
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  Early Hominem. Neanderthals. Evolution.

  by solameguy12 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so i grew up as a witness but i’m no longer active, i have some family that still practices very seriously.

  but i don’t want to ask them my question.

  but what does the bible and teaching’s of jw’s say about early hominids?

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  FFGhost

  Like why not just say “oops we were wrong” and keep preaching what they think is right

  LOL. You have been away for along time.

  The GB admit they were wrong?

  It’s like asking someone standing on the South Pole, “now take one step to the south”. Just can’t be done,

  Likewise, the GB is absolutely completely unable to ever admit to a specific mistake. They can’t do it.

  They’ve gotten literally everything but the most trivial details completely, spectacularly wrong for 140+ years but the most they can cop to is a vague “we’re not infallible”. They are not physically capable of admitting error on a specific doctrine or policy.
  
  
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  Missing Monthly Broadcast - May 2015

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  youtuber millstone research has done a video on the fact that the may 2015 monthly broadcast is no longer on jw org.. https://www.jw.org/en/library/videos/#en/categories/studiomonthlyprograms.

  the broadcast was presented by lett who mentions he had the backing of the other gb members regarding his comments.. the broadcast is basically about soliciting jws for funds as well as other 'valuable things' for the organisation.

  this is the one where he claims that the money flowing out was more than the money flowing in.

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  FFGhost

  It continues to astonish me (well maybe by now it shouldn’t) how utterly bone-brained they can be.

  Anyone with the intelligence that God gave gravel understands that anything posted on the internet is there forever. Merely deleting something from your own site, especially something controversial, is the electronic version of standing on your rooftop waving your arms and yelling “Hey, everybody, look at me! I’m not standing on my rooftop waving my arms and yelling!”

  Idiots.