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  Breaking News: Anthony Morris III no longer serving on the Governing Body

  by WingCommander in

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  this has been announced on the jw's official website, in the "jw news" section.

  this is not a joke.

  anthony moron da turd is out as a gluttonous body member!

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  FFGhost

  How could they possibly ever decide the best way to do this, they can’t exactly hope people wouldn’t notice that fat Tony hasn’t been on the broadcasts for a while.

  That’s just it - he WAS on the broadcasts, very recently.

  He gave the “governing body update” in late December, recorded just a few days prior to air time.

  His annual meeting talk was included in the January JW broadcast.

  A month later and whammo! No longer serving.

  This was a bolt out of the blue. This was no gradual decline in health, no “I think I need to spend more time with family” situation. They’d never have recorded and broadcast him in December and January if they knew there was even a hint he might not stick around.

  This was something really big, really sudden, and REALLY bad.

  But your question is a good one - how could they possibly think this was the best, or even a good, way to handle it?
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  Breaking News: Anthony Morris III no longer serving on the Governing Body

  by WingCommander in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this has been announced on the jw's official website, in the "jw news" section.

  this is not a joke.

  anthony moron da turd is out as a gluttonous body member!

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  Just thinking more about this announcement….

  While they ostensibly give counsel against gossip in JW publications and talks, those at Bethel know how quick and pervasive it is. What’s the old joke - “what’s the progression of the quickest way to spread news? First the telegraph, then telephone, then television, then tell-a-Bethelite”.

  They know - absolutely 100% without doubt know - that anyone older than 50 will remember the Ray Franz situation, and “everyone” knows Ray was a <gasp> apostate., and the identical thing has happened to Morris, and do you suppose he’s an apostate too?….will be the thought process.

  They KNOW this will happen, they could have prevented it with even a slightly softer wording but they chose not to.

  The more I think about it…he got caught doing something really bad and they can’t, or don’t want to, stop the gossip and assumptions that are sure to come.
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  Breaking News: Anthony Morris III no longer serving on the Governing Body

  by WingCommander in

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  this has been announced on the jw's official website, in the "jw news" section.

  this is not a joke.

  anthony moron da turd is out as a gluttonous body member!

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  FFGhost

  Whoa Nelly! Second time I’ve said that his week.

  Naturally no reason is given, but the timing with the developments in Pennsylvania is certainly interesting.

  This sort of thing just doesn’t happen. Certainly wouldn’t be a health issue - they kept Barber, Gangas etc. on the GB long past when they were mentally incapable of doing much more than keeping their eyelids open.

  The last time a “no longer serving” announcement was made was in 1981, for Ray Franz. AMIII is almost certainly not an “apostate”, he doesn’t seem to have the intelligence or character to make a principled stand.

  The terseness of the announcement makes me think it is disciplinary. And if so, it’s something far worse than “being caught on video buying $800 worth of scotch” since that happened many years ago and the video has been freely available since then.

  I keep coming back to the Pennsylvania CSA thing. Can’t say for sure that’s it but boy it sure would explain things.
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  Every JW Elder In State Of Pennsylvania Subpoenaed

  by JW GoneBad in

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  breaking news!

  every jehovah’s witness elder in the 67 counties of pennsylvania are being given notice by state attorney's office to turn over any & all documents relating to child sex abuse cases!

  watch attached video beginning at time-stamp 101:00...pay particular attention to what is said after 103:00.this is wild!.

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  FFGhost

  Whoa Nelly, that’s huge.

  the Society told them ages ago not to hold any documents or notes related to such things

  Except for the fact that every time a child abuser moves to a new congregation, his letter of introduction was supposed to include all the info his prior congregation had on his child abuse judicial case(s). The current elder manual basically says “call the service department before sending anything in writing” now, but for decades the policy was to just go ahead and send it.

  Even current policy is, if there is any file on CSA in the congregation records, it must be marked “do not destroy” and kept indefinitely.

  There has to be dozens if not hundreds (thousands?) of ticking time bombs in Pennsylvania congregation files, from this “do not destroy” congregation files and/or those letters of introduction from years past that are still hanging around.

  Bad time to be an elder in Pennsylvania.
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  Christ's Brothers

  by enoughisenough in

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  cooperate with christ’s representatives.

  shortly before his death, jesus mentioned another way in which we can follow his leadership.

  he said: “he that receives anyone i send receives me also.” (john 13:20) in fact, jesus spoke of his anointed representatives as his “brothers.” (matt.

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  The funny part is, Jesus tells exactly who his “brothers” are in a direct, clear quote in Matthew 12:50:

  ”For whoever does the will of my Father who is in heaven, that one is my brother and sister and mother.”

  Nothing about “144,000” or “anointed ones” or “little flock”. It says “whoever”.

  What’s that line the JWs like to trot out? “The Bible interprets itself”?

  I guess it does, except when it doesn’t.
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  End of preaching work is near and coming shortly...............

  by BoogerMan in

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  2. bible

  ......well it was 50 years ago!!

  meanwhile, millions of jw's sing diana ross' song, "i'm still waiting.".

  w70 12/15 p. 758 par.

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  FFGhost

  LOL.

  Did you happen to catch this month’s JW broadcast?

  It was the edited version of the October 2022 annual meeting, with talks by gb guys and videos.

  One of the talks was by The Most Boring Human On The Planet, Ken Cook. He was droning on about Revelation 11:18 and how God will “bring to ruin, those ruining the earth”.

  Towards the end, he asks rhetorically, “so when can we expect this?”

  After failed attempt at a dramatic pause, he made his usual limp attempt at enthusiasm by exclaiming “Soon! Yes! Very soon, God will blah blah blah (you know the rest)”.

  I just thought it was hysterical - that tepid attempt at a dramatic pause and, then, in his best imitation of enthusiasm, he squeaks “Soon! Very soon!” as if it were the first time in recorded history that the WTS had used those words, instead of it being a repeat of their message for well over a literal century.

  Idiots. The lot of the them.
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  King of the North

  by pontoon in

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  i've been out for 13 years.

  just wondering who the society is identifying as the king of the north?.

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  FFGhost

  Russia.

  It’s been Russia for the past 7 or 8 years, ever since the Russian government seized a bunch of WTS real estate there.

  Oh, and coincidentally and inconsequentially, some JWs there have been imprisoned for following their religious beliefs.

  But obviously and of course, the primary reason is “they took our stuff!”
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  New GB

  by XBEHERE in

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  gage fleegle.

  jeffrey winder.

  anyone know them?

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  FFGhost

  Never heard of either one of them.

  Speculating, based on dates given in the blurb:

  Both appear to be “lifetimers” at Bethel. If we assume that a Bethel lifer is likely a born-in, and also likely a congregation “golden boy” who did everything that a good little JW “young one” is supposed to do, that would probably mean they started pioneering (“full time service”) right out of high school.

  In the US, most people finish high school at age 18.

  Assuming my speculation is accurate (which seems likely), that would their respective years of birth 1971 & 1968, making them currently age 51 & 54 (roughly).

  More young GBers. The start of GB 3.0?

  The most interesting question (at least to me) is, when did they start partaking? Are they “overlappers” (started before Fred Franz died in 1992)? Or are they “next generation anointed”? If they beat the Splane-ordained Franz cutoff date to be part of “this generation”, both would have begun partaking while in their 20s. That seems unlikely, given their likely “golden boy” status and subsequent lack of desire to rock the boat. Being a “young anointed” in the 90s would have been a sure way to land in the doghouse.

  So, I think we probably have our first gb guys who are not part of “this generation”.

  As I repeatedly said, this is 100% speculation and inference so quite possibly wrong, but I think the chances of my being right are more than 50%.
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  question on vaxxed for the schools

  by enoughisenough in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i get it about the elder and ms schools, but the question is : what is your understanding about the pioneers?

  i know they have the pioneer school for those who have been in the service for one year ( then at an interval) so i see how the vx rule applies to them, but do you understand if it applies to meetings they have with the co when he visits and also what is your understanding as to the special meeting day they have before the assemblies?.

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  FFGhost

  Covid vaccines are required for the 6 day pioneer school that all first year pioneers are invited to, then every 5 years thereafter.

  No COVID vaccination is required for meetings with the CO or meetings tied to the circuit assembly.
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  It’s started COBE asking all appointed men if they are fully vaccinated

  by Indoubtbigtime in

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  2. beliefs

  there is a huge problem now in all congregations as the gb stubbornly will not do the u turn on staying fully vaccinated that many hoped they would do.. all congregations around the world the cobe has to ask all ministerial servants and elders if they are fully vaccinated (meaning no more than six months since last shot).

  there is a massive problem now with many many jdubs not getting their latest boosters and not wanting to stay fully vaccinated .

  but more serious than that is how the gb painted themselves into a corner with these vaccine mandates.. most governments did a u turn on the vax mandates but the gb can’t get out of this one so easily .

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  FFGhost

  Without getting issues of the efficacy of the COVID vaccines, it is mind-bogglingly inconsistent of them to require vaccinations for “schools”, which will have an attendance of roughly 40 to 100 people, and not require them for circuit assemblies (attended by hundreds) or regional conventions (attended by thousands, in some cases many thousands).

  If their concern was “prevent the transmission of the virus”, you’d think the larger the crowd, the more restrictive the requirements.

  Seems as though one’s vaccination status has become something of a loyalty test for those with “privileges”. Are you “obedient to those taking the lead” when, while they did not explicitly state “thou shalt be vaccinated”, they surely l-e-e-e-aned in that direction.

  A 21st century Shibboleth to see who is really loyal and obedient.