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  Creation, Not Evolution Best Explains Genetics

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umnhg0a9dlu.

  evolutionists can change their model, and invent stories whenever they want to accomodate data.

  biblical literalists are stuck with just one model, one account, and are unable to change it.

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  FFGhost

  Is this the same creation Com. That claims that noah took dinosaurs onto the ark?

  LOL.

  “You’re gonna need a bigger ark”
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  October Elder's Letter Delayed- Big Announcement at Annual Meeting

  by Newly Enlightened in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://youtu.be/93h5zpbil6k?si=ffatfxjuxmj_na9i.

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  FFGhost

  You want to know what’s really weird?

  Not only is the October s-147 form not posted yet….but the s-147s for July, August, and September have been removed from the jw hub.

  They post the s-147 forms under a single heading, then have multiple files under the heading. They do them for 6 months at a time.

  There’s headings for “January to June 2024”, “July to December 2023”, etc. but the one for “July to December 2024”, which was there a few weeks ago and held the announcement sheets previously posted for July, August, and September has been deleted.

  I don’t ever recall them (a) not posting the s-147 so late and (b) removing the immediately previous forms.

  It’s very strange. There doesn’t seem to have been anything “earth-shattering” at the meeting, so why pull old announcements and not post the new ones?
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  JWhub

  by Mikejw in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i’m an elder who is pima, i’m amazed how much info is available to all elders.

  you can see all private details of every member of the congregation.

  i wonder how these sisters feel about their private details being available to these creepy elders?.

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  FFGhost

  If anyone had any doubts this poster, and his 6 or 7 other aliases, is a troll, this topic should resolve it.

  It is complete and utter BS that “all elders” can see “all private details” of “every member”.

  Next step: 3 or 4 of those alias accounts will jump on this thread to tell me how wrong I am
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  Rumour 144,000 literal number teaching to be abandoned at Annual Meeting

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  say it ain’t so!

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  in one sense it’s a no brainer because the figures just don’t add up any more.. in another (negative) sense it’s a no brainer because it’s been fundamental to jws since year dot and might undermine the whole thing?

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  FFGhost

  Not sure about this one.

  On the one hand, it’s been blindingly obvious that they’ll eventually have to “do something” about the perennially increasing number of partakers reported every year, beyond labeling most as “emotionally unstable” as they have been doing. Making the “144,000” a symbolic number is the most obvious and easiest solution.

  on the other hand, the OP seems to be based on a single poster over on Reddit who read a WT article about “the anointed” wherein the number is not mentioned. Seems like a pretty flimsy pole to hang your hat on, especially since in a different article (QFR actually) in the same magazine the number “144,000” is explicitly stated.

  I guess we’ll find out in a couple of weeks, but I don’t think it will be made “official doctrine” yet.
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  EXPLOSIVE NEW LEAKED VIDEO OF C.O. CHASTISING ELDERS

  by raymond frantz in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  https://youtu.be/np05twylal8?si=wjcdevvpxmlwxb2p.

  shame is an ancient form of control.

  shame is the mechanism used to control behaviour.

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  FFGhost

  Good lord.

  I cringed so hard I think I pulled a muscle (sorry).

  The ability of the WTS to shoot itself in the foot never ceases to amaze me.

  As noted in the earlier post on this thread, if this were rigorously enforced, they’d lose half their elders and three-fourths of their MS overnight.

  The true believer elders, the ones they want to keep, would see this and think “OMG, I’ve offended Jehovah, I must confess immediately and lose my privileges in order to keep my precious relationship with Jah”.

  The PIMOs, the cynics, the power hungry narcissists, the ones they don’t really want, would see this and think “dang, I better clear my browser and search history ASAP” or at the very least, “if I have any problems with my laptop or phone, I am absolutely never giving it to a fellow JW for repairs”.

  Well done, whoever is leaking these.
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  New instructions on not using sisters to manage KH computer ?

  by fifth.column in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  since covid in france, especially in the countryside with lack of brothers, it was quite common that some sisters were using the computer at the back of the kingdom hall to manage zoom session.. i heard a rumor that new instructions, maybe a july letter, stated that this was reserved for male only, even unbaptised publishers, but no sister if there is at least a male available.

  that would be a steps back and disappointment for these sisters.

  last week i heard at my mom’s house how they were happy that this service was available for them, a proof that the org was moving forward.

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  FFGhost

  Yeah, that’s right.

  In a lot of places in Europe (maybe elsewhere too?), post-COVID, they started using “sisters” to run mics and run the sound desk, because there just simply weren’t enough “brothers” present at the KH.

  Evidently, the branch offices found that horrific, or at least embarrassing, so in the monthly “announcements and reminders” to congregations (July 2024, sent just this week), they put the kibosh on the practice.

  The letter says that “baptized brothers in their early teens or younger” could be used for such “practical tasks”. And that congregations must “contact the circuit overseer for direction before using sisters”.

  All that, of course, is in the “elders only” section of the letter, NOT to be read to the congregation.

  I can think of more than a few sisters who are going to be “bent out of shape” when these recent “privileges” are suddenly yanked away.

  I was thinking, maybe, that the borg was considering increasing the role of sisters in the congregations, starting with mics & sound desk, and conceivably, after many years, possibly even opening up the way for them to be ministerial servants. I always thought it odd how 1 Timothy 3:11 specifically addressing “women” was plopped directly in the middle of the list of requirements for MS in 1 Tim. 3:8-13. I thought, maybe, with the loosening restrictions on field service reports and dress codes, they might, after a suitably long time, open the door for “sisters” to have even more responsibilities.

  Alas, I should have known better.

  An 11 year old baptized boy “outranks” Sister Pioneer with 40+ years of experience. Thus shall it ever be so in WT-world.
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  JW Ranking System

  by NotFormer in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it's fairly evident to little old outsider me that the organisation has a class system, perhaps even a caste system.. from what i've read, there seems to not only be an official ranking system (m.s., elder, c.o.

  ) but an unofficial one.

  has anyone ever sat down to figure out what the unofficial ranks are and how they affect the pecking order?

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  FFGhost

  A (slightly obsolete) oldie but goodie:

  https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/2671/updated-list-watchtower-ranks-classes
  
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  My guess for August WatchTower: GB claims we're in beginning stages of Great Tribulation due to World governments turning on JW's

  by WingCommander in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the september watchtower has already been released and is being discussed over on reddit.

  some highlights: .

  1. more hitting the flock on total reliance and obedience to god's representatives on earth today, the f&ds (the governing body, of course).

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  FFGhost

  Here’s what I can’t figure out….

  OK, so “something came up” and they need to do an extensive rewrite of at least some of the information for the scheduled August WT.

  It’s so extensive it may require an extra month, or even two months of writing, editing, rewriting, etc.

  Meanwhile, work continues on the September WT and October WT. In fact, that content is finished before the rewrites of the August mag.

  Why can’t they just take the September WT, swap out the date in the cover and footers, and name <what was the September WT> as <the new August WT>?

  What is so special about “August”? Why not just switch up the order a bit so the rewritten articles get dumped into a WT with a later date?

  The obvious apparent answer is “they want these rewritten articles to be studied in October, not earlier, not later, but exactly in October”.

  But why? What possible difference could it make? WT articles are dull, bland, uninteresting and perfectly interchangeable. If a local KH were to decide to study, I don’t know, an article from March 2018 at this week’s meeting, anyone who didn’t have a copy of the current WT in front of them would have no idea.

  There has to be a reason why THOSE articles HAVE TO be in the AUGUST WT, but I just can’t think of what it could be.

  Any ideas out there?
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  They must also change the treatment of those who dissociate themselves from the JWs. It is inevitable

  by LaFrancia in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  from reddit ex jw, a user posted this material of a hypothetical new light on dissociated people......i'm posting it only for the record, nothing else is known.

  it seems that the topic has been deleted either by the moderators or by the user himself.

  understanding dissociation in light of the scriptures.

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  FFGhost

  Yeah, that’s not from any “secret” or “recalled” Watchtower article.

  There are literally dozens of clues indicating this was not written by any JW.

  The most glaring is the reference to “Jehovah’s grace”. Anyone who has spent more than 15 minutes with a JW knows that JWs absolutely never ever ever EVER use the term “grace” in connection with God - too much like “Christendom”.

  There are, as I mentioned, lots of other clues.

  “Jesus asked the Twelve, you don’t want to leave too, do you?”

  — not an exact quote

  — WT writers never use contractions

  — WT would never capitalize “Twelve”

  Etc.

  ”They are no longer considered part of Jehovah’s Witnesses”.

  That’s just bad grammar. Say what you will about the Writing department, grammatically they are nowhere near that sloppy (granted, some of their sentences ARE quite tortured - but still, they are never near that bad).

  Sorry, these paragraphs are just the deluded ramblings of a wishful apostate’s mind.
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  Who knows the "Kinemo Kit Corporation"

  by chasson in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  from the wt of october 1, 1921 p. 303:.

  "nouncement.

  was made concerning the makfng of certain film to be exhibited.

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  FFGhost

  Wow, did you watch the pyramid video?

  Attention, all JW trolls, lurkers, and site monitors:

  THAT is the kind of ludicrous horse puckey that the WTS was at least endorsing if not producing back 100+ years ago, when Jesus supposedly determined that THIS group, out of every organization on earth, was the one that most closely fit his idea of a “faithful and discreet slave”.

  Just absolute bat-$hi+ bonkers, then (and now).