Posts by ThomasMore

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Our J.W friends still have issues with beards 2022??Why?

by Witness 007 in

our witness friend who during covid grew his beard has been hassled by elders who asked him "why" he chose to have facial growth.

he for real, had to give an answer why.

this is pharasees total rubbish.

ThomasMore

Just be thankful that Rutherford didn’t advocate for castration.

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questions for those who were once elders

by enoughisenough in

i watched some wendi renay youtube videos.

the former elder who was being interviewed mentioned a couple of things i noted.

i would like to know what your reactions were at the time you learned what i am going to relate if you had the same or kindred experience.

WTC did officially teach that NT was written for anointed. This became problematic when FDS was re-identified as the GB. They have made such a mess interpreting scriptures that place them in the middle of all prophecies and explanations. As a result, many who followed their teachings now want nothing to do with the Bible, as if it was responsible for their ludicrous teachings. Word to the wise, don’t stand close to a steel pole in a lightning storm “lest ye get struck”.

WTC has a lot to answer for.

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questions for those who were once elders

by enoughisenough in

i watched some wendi renay youtube videos.

the former elder who was being interviewed mentioned a couple of things i noted.

i would like to know what your reactions were at the time you learned what i am going to relate if you had the same or kindred experience.

ThomasMore

Heard all of it. Rolled off my back like water. Elders were at each others throats so that was proof to me that we were nothing special. What did I do? I left. Will never go back to something I could not teach with a straight face.

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Is the WT right that the Lamb's marriage is after Armageddon?

by Kosonen in

the wt org claims that the lamb's marriage will happen after armageddon, despite the fact that revelation 19 very clearly says that the lamb's marriage happens after the destruction of babylon the great.

and that after the lamb's marriage he with heavenly armies will go to destroy the wicked.. the wt claims that the order of events in revelation 19 is not really in that order referring to psalm 45. but i can't find in psalm 45 any explicit contradiction to revelation 19. .

paragraph 10 in the following article shows the wt org's view point:.

ThomasMore

D JW - I am certain there was no previous life on Mars because there are no personal storage units.

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Return door to door

by Hellothere in

any news about how it's going with the return too door 2 door preaching?

are the jws excited about it?

are they facing any opposition to it by householders?

ThomasMore

They were in “Service”, not spreading a message of hope and salvation…

Service has rarely been about genuine love for people. When a person devotes their time to please men or just to measure up, it is unlikely that they will be able to convey any sincere love when they meet others that they look down on. It is an example of thrashing wildly without accomplishing anything.

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Honest Hearted Ones

by Sea Breeze in

there are certain wt terms that sound biblical but really just puff up the pride.

hundreds of times the wt has used the term honest-hearted in their literature.

it sounds biblical, if for no other reason because we hear it so often in jw circles.

ThomasMore

Vanderhoven is spot on as well as the spirit of the post. The term is used to manipulate the thinking through association. “I am honest-hearted so I should be responding to JWs.” “I am a JW so therefore I am honest-hearted”

The use of terms like these divide people into 2 camps - JWs and the Wicked World. There are no gray areas, everything is black and white - even if we know that flawed people exist in both. Elevating some above others has never created unity or a sense of genuine brotherly love. JWs are devouring each other as they compete for the top slot of “most honest-hearted”.

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PIMO Bethel Elder Has Special Message & Speaks out

by Newly Enlightened in

a pimo elder at bethel has come forward with a special message posted on reddit.. https://www.reddit.com/gallery/v9mgao.

the dated pictures attached are "proof conclusive" that this is for real.

no outside guests are allowed inside bethel at this time.

ThomasMore

James Foard is correct. I know because I have lived it. i will not say what my login gave me access to, so let’s just say that they don’t have enough confidence in the R&F to give them access to all the information they have online. And we are not just talking about old publications that many JWs had in their possession or had access to at the KH. WTC encouraged all the congs to destroy those years ago but they were simply relocated to the homes of the “faithful” who could not stomach pitching them into the rubbish pile. A diligent search will provide access to older publications if you know where to look.

What I am referring to is access to directives and info that is intended for heavies - COs, Branch Committee members, Service Dept, HLCs, and more.

More serious though is that this does not include the air-gapped CSA databases that Legal and Service have access to, which if aired, would surely bring the organization to its knees overnight. Don’t believe me? If you can live that way, then don’t and be blissfully ignorant. But know this, many honest and right-minded persons want those databases to be made public, or at least handed over to proper authorities - but WTC will die on the sword before that happens. They surely know that it would be the immediate end for them.

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Breaking news. Masks

by road to nowhere in

jw
friends

updated.

october 1 no more strongly encouraged.

just regular now?.

ThomasMore

The Japanese have used masks for decades to prevent the spread of cold and flu when out in public. I don't know how effective masks are and don't really spend time researching it. I do see however that the mask issue is a political tool (whether they work or not) and WTC is a FOLLOWER - not a leader.

So why drop the mask mandate after making it a matter of INTEGRITY only several months ago. Maybe preparation for the Annual Meeting? Maybe following the nations to stay in good graces... Does it really matter? Not to me. It is a distraction from the real issues of:

1. Selling KHs

2. CSA lawsuits

3. Laughable doctrinal flip flops

4. Low attendance

5. Low morale

6. Low bank account balances and contributions

Get ready for more distractions as the lawsuits pile in over the next few months.

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Where did Enoch go - God transferred him?

by Fisherman in

god did not take the lives of the wicked contemporaries of enoch, instead he took the life of enoch.

and that seems like a great injustice to deprive innocent enoch of life instead of killing the wicked.

—i said seems.. a man goes to get surgery but first they give him an opiate like narcotic and he falls asleep gladly and with pleasure and euphoria.

ThomasMore

I recall that WTC tried to explain "God took him" to mean that he was injured by his opposers, so God transferred him to a place where he could die peacefully, menwhile providing a glimpse of what lay ahead as a reward for his faithfulness. This explanation seems to make sense. Even a broken clock is right 2X a day...

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Should laws be passed compelling the church to report crimes?

by Fisherman in

if laws were passed compelling the church to report crimes to government authorities and there was no legal way around it and the church was forced to comply and did comply, nobody would confess their sins.

it wouldn’t stop people from committing crimes, they just wouldn’t tell their church about it.

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ThomasMore

Being a WTC apologist either breaks you or makes you look broken. I did it for years and am still ashamed for not being intellectully honest. Maybe the better course is to let WTC apologize for its actions and policies - even if they never do that.