perhaps we could post the pictures the wt have presented in their literature that depict their version of paradise here for comment/discussion:.
from: spirits of the dead—can they help you or harm you?
do they really exist?.
Things never seen in WTC illustrations:
1. A leg of lamb being slow cooked
2. A wedding scene
3. Teenagers holding hands (or being counseled for unclean conduct)
4. An organized sports event
5. A good looking girl in a 2-piece
6. Public execution of someone who disagreed with WTC
lets imagine the watchtower idea of armageddon really does happen in the next couple of years.... and afterwards jehovah says to the gb.
" right guys--ive done my part--its all over to you now.
see you again in 1000 years time ".
A dream to be sure! - - - - of the nightmare variety.
WTC fantasizes that scenario, getting control over ALL people. At least we would never have to worry about over-population...many people would rather die than be subjected to the cruelty of WTC.
new york times 9/5/24.
" there are only two shakers left.
they've still got utopia in their sites.. "by jordan kisner.
WTC would like for the members to believe that they are new and are "turning the page" with New light. NEWSFLASH: WTC has been in the drivers seat for 145 years (1879 - 2024). If they had anything substantive to offer, they would/could have done so 100 years ago.
the hospital liaison committee (hlc) for jehovah’s witnesses does not pressure members to refuse blood transfusions.
rather, their role is to support jehovah’s witnesses in adhering to their pre-existing religious beliefs, which include a strict prohibition against accepting blood transfusions based on their interpretation of biblical scriptures.. jehovah’s witnesses are well-informed about their stance on blood from an early age, and refusing blood is a deeply ingrained religious conviction, not something imposed during a medical crisis.
the hlc’s purpose is to provide assistance in accessing bloodless treatment options, facilitating communication with healthcare providers, and helping ensure that the patient’s choices are respected.. while the hlc strongly supports adherence to the beliefs of jehovah’s witnesses, the ultimate decision remains with the individual.
Road to nowhere - the local elder overstepped (as you probably figured out). Privacy rights DO NOT require that publishers contact the HLC for direction. It is their choice if they feel that they need assistance but it is NOT required. Even suggesting that could land WTC in deep hot water. The HLC is not licensed to be a requisite part of healthcare discussions.
apparently, the downsizing is still happening and from what i read those let go are over 50!.
sad because these people expected to be lifers.
now they have to make their way in the world at an advanced age with no education or desirable skill!..
I recall a JW who was killed in a storm while at home when the congregation was meeting miles away in the local KH. The comments during the meeting implied that if she had been present at the KH, she would still be alive. The audience seemed to have no compassion for the death of their sister.
Later, a KH was the target of a terrorist attack, and a few JWs lost their lives. No one offered that they might still be alive if they had stayed at home that morning.
JWs forget Jesus words regarding the ones who died when a well known tower fell. It seems so simple to understand but JWs do NOT understand. Why? Because they have forgotten what genuine affection is. Instead, every tragedy is an opportunity to belittle others, elevating themselves as they bash the unfortunate souls who cannot defend themselves.
which name does the evil faithful slave's literature demand that you focus on - jehovah or jesus?.
do jesus & the bible agree with the org's obsession with the name 'jehovah', or was jesus just being presumptuous?
(matthew 10:22) and you will be objects of hatred by all people on account and whoever receives one such young child on the basis of my name receives me.... (matthew 18:20) for where there are two or three gathered together in my name, there i am in their midst.”.
In Hebrew and Aramaic, the name Jesus means “Yahweh saves” or “Yahweh is salvation” As Slim wrote, the name refers to the God that the Jews recognized.
As of today, there are still no discovered manuscripts of the Christian Greek testament (Matthew to Revelation) that use the name Yahweh. I am not aware that any excluded books used the divine name either - someone correct me if you know something otherwise.
The message seems obvious that Jesus became the focus of salvation, by the Father's own intention/direction. WTC ignores this of course, inserting the divine name translated into Latin into the Christian Greek Scriptures repeatedly. When asked for the basis on which they took this liberty, they respond with a 50,000 word essay on why it makes sense even if no manuscripts have ever been located to the contrary. With that many words, they must surely be right...............
perhaps we could post the pictures the wt have presented in their literature that depict their version of paradise here for comment/discussion:.
from: spirits of the dead—can they help you or harm you?
do they really exist?.
If it can be imagined, WTC can illustrate it. I have said for many years that the illustrators drove the teachings about life in paradise. Magazine editors gave them a lot of leeway to imagine the outlandish - so they went over the top with outlandish scenes. Many of the scenes were not aligned with the teachings about the resurrected not marrying, simple living and the discontinuation of child-bearing as population grew. They were making it up as they went along.
Conspicuously missing are depictions of science other endeavors that would align with sustainable energy and construction. In THEIR new world, home building, farming and eating vegetables are the only things imagined.
8/20/24 "the charlotte (nc) observer".
questions about demons, jehovah’s witnesses in charlotte murder trial.
what do you think about demonic possessions?
Balaamsass2 - It is a proven fact that demons love to hang out in old style fuse boxes and walls with no insulation draft issues - PROVEN FACT! They also like any objects sold at yard sales, childrens toys and books. 🥹
Did I forget Smurfs? Also any vinyl record that can be played backward… oh yea, add wind-chimes and any song the Rolling Stones ever sang in concert. Likewise for the music of KISS and the Eagles. Those demons are a quirky bunch.
Don’t get me started on D&D…. My head may may spin right off and flip the TV on to an Amityville rerun.
70,000 real estate properties at an average value of $100,000 and perhaps we can say (no one knows for sure) that warwick sits on $70 billion in real estate value.
in the video (deleted by jwborg but available on the avoid.jw website) of the 2018-19 coordinators' committee report (english) shown to all congregations at the mid-week meeting, we find several curious and interesting indications:.
- at minute 6.52 seconds you see some data .
There is some speculation that the new Irish Asset Management Corps are an attempt to shield WTC from litigation as they streamline the monies going into and out of the coffers.
JeffT - can you comment on how their new scheme might work in this nanner? At first glance, these Corps don’t appear to be non-profits. What is the strategy if that is so? Are they divesting ALL $$ from WTC so that Bethels only get “donations” from the Asset Management Corps which would be tax deductible?
apparently, the downsizing is still happening and from what i read those let go are over 50!.
sad because these people expected to be lifers.
now they have to make their way in the world at an advanced age with no education or desirable skill!..
LHG - I hope my comment didn’t imply that “kicked to the curb Bethelites” deserved handouts from the rank n’ file - they do not - but many have that expectation as they are desperate and might otherwise be living on the street.
i have done my share of trying to soften the landing for the poor souls who mistakenly believed that WTC would always look after them.
Ray Franz received a separation settlement but it was not much, just enough to buy a trailer to live in. He refused to sign an NDA so WTC went after him even after he left. The brother who helped him financially found himself in the crosshairs as well. It was scorched earth treatment by WTC.
These days WTC does not want to hear of the hardships - they usually ignore cong letters describing the needs of those they “received” or even counsel them to be more generous helping them out. In some cases they actually told elders to counsel them to care for themselves. They are heartless.
i have known some and believe me, they were near panic as they tried to get on their feet. Despite bearing some of the blame, it is still heart wrenching to see this played out. WTC must fall.
