I'm on the fence with this one. I understand that a current B'Lite would take every precaution to hide their identity so that is to be expected. I have heard other B'Lites say that things are pretty miserable but they are also very guarded. Reprisals can be pretty strong for criticizers.
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PIMO Bethel Elder Has Special Message & Speaks out
by Newly Enlightened ina pimo elder at bethel has come forward with a special message posted on reddit.. https://www.reddit.com/gallery/v9mgao.
the dated pictures attached are "proof conclusive" that this is for real.
no outside guests are allowed inside bethel at this time.
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Simple Question Re 1914
by Slidin Fast inwt claims that satan was thrown out of heaven in october 1914 precipitating ww!
and the end times.
a small problem with that is ww1 started on july 28th 1914 whilst satan was still in heaven picking his nose.. how did we not see this and waste years of precious life?
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Ozzie - your prediction on page 1 was spot on. It reminds me of a fight that I once went to where a hockey game broke out. The usual crowd of apologists and dreamers always arrives right on queue.
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Preaching the Good News with Rising Gas Prices?
by truthlover123 ini fear this could put an end to travelling a territory due to rising prices- where i am located in canada, we are now paying $2.08 per liter .
now since there is 3.79 litres in one gallon that equates to $7.88 per gallon... .
how many in a car group will kick in?
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I stopped expecting the group to assist with expenses when we were out each week. They expected me to pay for everything - and I did. I never added up how expensive it was to be a zealot, but I am sure that it was the most expensive hobby ever with nothing to show for it. I stopped - they immediately shunned me. Glad to see it as it really is - not as I wanted it to be. Hey everybody! The rich guy has left the room.
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2022-Secret Watchtower Disfellowshipping Reference Manual.
by Atlantis inmassive new document written by wt, 837 pages, meant for arguments vs officials and media to defend the disfellowshipping arrangement.
found in the casefile in norway.
meant to be secret.. .
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Thanks Atlantis! This appears to be a legal effort with JW input. As for the question on DFing... I say let them devour each other. Haters are gonna hate so why try to love one? JWs love hating and it makes them feel good. All the efforts to make them stop is like trying to force a boxer to make a living without boxing. Good luck with that.
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Keep Sweet Pray and Obey [FLDS Documentary]
by RolRod inthere's a new documentary series on netflix regarding the flds.
fundamentalist latter day saints.
anyone watch it yet?
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Cultists!!!!
Oh wait - I was a JW for decades. Nevermind.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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Is this still going on??? Let the corpse decay for heavens sake!!!!!!
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Capitol Attack Hearings
by shadowclone inhearings are on the schedule for abc, bbc, cbs, cnn, msnbc and nbc.
not on fox "news".. will you be watching?
or maybe .
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PEW says respect for government is at an all time low. Despite who is right and who is wrong, voters are weary of lies and manipulation. I suspect that a growing hatred of incumbents is in the works. Let's be honest - most politicians are crooks - some are just bigger crooks than others. Toss em all out and go have a beer.
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Wrong Religion
by Vanderhoven7 inwe brainstormed a while back on this forum and pooled our knowledge on how to recognize false religion.
i think the list is worth reviewing and adding to if possible.
please feel free to correct and or add insights of your own to this list:.
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Vanderhoven,
Excellent identifiers! The WTC apologists come out of the woodwork but your reasoning is indisputable. Thanks for pointing out where salvation actually comes from.
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Date of Adam's "Creation?
by Slidin Fast inhow do jws resolve these conflicting facts.. 1. no matter how you spin it, bible chronology calculates to circa 4000 bc for adam's creation.
i followed the trail many years ago and that's what it adds up to.. 2. the most cursory investigation of any branch of relevant science puts man's habitation on the earth as hugely earlier than that.
it's now so well-proved that anyone disputing it is guilty of wilful ignorance.
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Does it even matter? If you believe the Bible, then you have to acknowledge that ALL the spirit sons of God knew when Adam was created since they "applauded" at the creation. Yet, they do not know the day or the hour so why does it matter?
The creation date of Adam apparently is not correlated to the destruction of the system if you reason on this honestly. JWs went down that path many years ago but in higher circles, they concluded that it had no bearing on the date for the GT or Armageddon. The numerologists among them may still cling to it but the publishing wing of the corp walked away from that speculation. I suspect that they quietly acknowledged that man has been on earth for a LOT LONGER than 6000 yrs. That is the story to keep your eyes on.
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Simple Question Re 1914
by Slidin Fast inwt claims that satan was thrown out of heaven in october 1914 precipitating ww!
and the end times.
a small problem with that is ww1 started on july 28th 1914 whilst satan was still in heaven picking his nose.. how did we not see this and waste years of precious life?
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Vanderhoven said (and he is correct).
"Witnesses contend that Satan caused the First World War out of anger for being cast down. However, he was cast down in October of 1914 according to WTS interpretation, and yet the war began in August of that year and preparations for the war had been going on for a considerable time before that, as early as 1911. That would mean he had to get angry before he was cast down and the woe to the earth began before he was cast down."
JWs love to point to the coincidence and say "SEE! We were right all along!" But the facts are (1) it was years later after 1914 that they adopted the current narrative. Revisionist history at its best! (2) They no longer stand behind war in heaven in October of 1914, but their crafty explanation of "circa" is not broad enough to address the real history of the buildup to WW1 which started years prior to 1914. (3) To this day, they refuse to address the establishment of Israel as a nation born in one day in May, 1948. Why? It simply does not fit their clumsy narrative.