Journeyman - all valid points that most of us see clearly here, but few in the Organization will admit.
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Cedar Point Ohio 🙄🙄🤦🏻♂️
by xaminewt ini started doubting the organization when i was 15. i spent the next 12 years doing in-depth research involving numerous emails with bible scholars and scientists.
i finally left the organisation 3 years ago.
technically i was never actually a jw as i was never baptised, so i’m not being shunned.
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any JW construction going on other than Warwick?
by Magnum inis anybody aware of any kingdom hall builds going on or any kind of ldc activity?
i've been wanting to ask this, and committeechairman's question at the end of this thread, http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/289353/ldc-semininar?page=4&size=20, moved me to go ahead and ask.. i've kind of wondered whether the org leaders got rid of rbcs and instituted the ldc arrangement because they wanted to be able to stop or slow down construction without it being obvious.
if the rbcs were still in existence, it would be obvious that there's nothing (or almost nothing) going on (if that really is the way it is) because rbc personnel would be idle when they were used to being busy.
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Journeyman - WTC has serious financial issues so ANY construction will be to counteract talk about the desperate nature of their situation. I recently learned that they are using commercial companies to do what volunteers used to do exclusively. It is clearly an attempt to (A) keep the rank n' file in the dark, (B) prep KHs for future selling, and (C) avoid challenges that free labor was used right before a sell.
However, there are still some who are quick to volunteer for speculative projects. Such projects appear to be fund-raising expeditions. After the money flows in, the project dissolves and WTC pockets the money.
As for the volunteers, they are the "I'll do anything to avoid doing more of the current nonsense" crowd. I suppose they are true believers who really think the end of the system is close enough to keep their emergency blinkers on all the time. Some are trust fund kids, but the majority are older ones with no hopes of retiring on more than their social security. They are looking for meaning in their lives and a break from the treadmill of being a regular publisher in a religion that is no longer offering excitement or meaning.
When the slowdown began, a lot of RBC men were disillusioned and went into a funk. LDC men were selected for their "speak no evil" loyalty. To keep the important secrets, WTC used traveling remote Bethelites. This untested concept was a disaster. Complaints about their behavior flooded in like water into a ship made of swiss cheese..
The money was drying up faster than a teenage model, so they quickly canceled all the projects. They raided the congregation coffers after properties were sold, and strongly directed elders NOT to try to work around the LDC. I knew of some who procceded with their own renovations despite. They were disciplined.
Most elders have the scars to prove that anything other than what they are told to do will result in great pain.
Now there is a shortage of loyal men and the money has run out. It is the perfect storm for WTC.
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What's next?
by lastmanstanding inwhat's next for the world?
a year ago i edited a map of the world to include some big arrows to tell the story of what is to come.
and i shared that map with various friends.
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The market has always had cycles of peaks and valleys, but these began to be closer together when retail buyers gained access to direct trading, eliminating a flesh and blood broker who would act as an intermediary. Volume trading quickly went parabolic as retail and institutional investors gained instant access, then came after market trading.
New products offered by brokerages have over-leveraged the market, making peaks and troughs more intense stoking volatility. See the history of the 2008 crash.
I am not saying this is an indicator of "the time of the end". I think that more access without much needed trading rules has created a violently rocking market that most retail investors no longer trust. "It is rigged" is a common criticism among such investors. The SEC could stop congressional members from insider trading, but they will not. Insider information is a primary incentive for being in congress. Show me a member of the House or Senate who was in worse shape financially after serving, and I will send you a picture of the Bigfoot that lives in the woods behind my home wearing a smoking jacket.
Long positions in the market are risky. Ask Warren Buffett how much he has in 6-month T-Bills.
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EXPLOSIVE NEW LEAKED VIDEO OF C.O. CHASTISING ELDERS
by raymond frantz inhttps://youtu.be/np05twylal8?si=wjcdevvpxmlwxb2p.
shame is an ancient form of control.
shame is the mechanism used to control behaviour.
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When I was in, it became apparent to me that the pornography rule(s) were being used as tools to oust men when the need arose. Some men got a pass while others who were unpopular did not get any mercy at all.
In reality, JW's have never cared about the moral cleanness of the congregation. The things that have been allowed and covered up would shock hardened sinners.
Rutherford got a pass when his peers KNEW that he had 2 mistresses - all while he was married.
My experiences with elders who used drugs, had long-time affairs, stole from fellow publishers, lied about family sins - all convinced me that the religion was not elevatinfg the moral standards of the followers.
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Holding a grudge
by LongHairGal ini read something recently on reddit (not sure what thread) where a person related how some jw told them that ‘they hold a grudge’.. this reminded me of something an old jw acquaintance said to me some years back when i related my bad experience in the religion.. so, apparently, jehovah’s witnesses feel they should be forgiven for anything.
people should forget all about it and act like nothing happened and be charitable towards them, etc… when i read in james and ephesians i got the sense ‘holding a grudge’ was referring to the things average people do to offend each other.. i don’t see it applying to a religion that claimed to speak for god and who engendered hateful and unchristian attitudes towards people.. i know because i experienced this.. in addition, some people’s lives were damaged by listening to faulty teachings and interference in things that were clearly none of anybody’s business.. one case in point: them knocking worldly careers and now there are thousands of destitute jws in senior years with nothing.. then in 2023 the religion does away with a century old teaching about counting hours in the ministry.
meanwhile, i got judged over this.
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At Bethel, there was a saying that "Bethel forgives, they just never forget".
It was a tongue in cheek comment that Bethelites knew to be true. Bethel kept a tally of all known offenses so that any offense could be referenced when they needed to kick someone out or deny a privilege, or get leverage they needed in a matter.
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Watchtower Used to Teach Jesus Was Not an Angel and was "the Lord from Heaven" Who Died on a Cross!
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no wonder they instructed congregation elders to throw away old literature from kingdon hall libraries.
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I believe that years later, after the publication of the Harp of God, WTC acknowledged that Mary contributed 1/2 the DNA of Jesus, so that he could actually be said to be a human. They also said that in the "conception" that the DNA contributed by Holy Spirit "canceled" out the imperfection of Mary's DNA.
I am sure they are right since they are inspired and infallible in all things. They have never been wrong and never will be wrong - not about anything - nothing. If they were wrong, then they were still on the divine course to what is right. If you feel otherwise, then you are wrong, fighting against God and his Governing Body.
You - Wrong Wrong Wrong
WTC - Right Right Right
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Vice President Kamala Harris…your thoughts??
by minimus ingood pick?
bad pick?
helpful to president biden?
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New VP pick Walz in an interview said regarding the 29' tall border wall: "I will invest in the company that sells a 30' ladder."
I marveled at the ignorance of this potential Vice-President of the US. Walls are effectrive for dramatically slowing those who try to cross into the US illegally. Similar to the wall around a race track, cars hit it and some parts may fly over the wall into the crowd, but the cars stay on the track, effectively protecting 99.9% of the spectators.
Border walls perform a similar purpose. I am sickened by the disingenuous comparisons of ignorant politicians who want open borders.
So why don't they just say that they want open borders? BECAUSE THEY KNOW THAT AMERICANS DO NOT WANT OPEN BORDERS.
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Worldwide Benefits ( USELESSNESS ) of Cart Witnessing
by RULES & REGULATIONS inlibrary.
meeting workbooks.
life and ministry meeting workbook | november 2018. .
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Road to nowhere - JWs consider it Corban.
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Do you have solid evidence of Watchtower fraud, bribes, tax fraud, etc.? Large reward possibilities!!
by Balaamsass2 inreward!
wallstreet journal 8/1/2024.
justice department trial program offers millions for tips on fraud, bribery.
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The DOJ need look no further than the down the street to one of the thousands of local churches that have no members, but retain their tax exempt status. They are easy to identify.
When the IRS cracks down on these pseudo religion/businesses, they can gain back the respect that they have lost among tax payers.
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Does this pretty much sum it all up?
by Tahoe injehovah witnesses are hypocrites and false prophets who are conning themselves.
jehovah’s witnesses, a christian denomination/cult known for their distinct beliefs and practices, have long faced scrutiny and criticism.
while they present themselves as a cohesive and morally stringent group, numerous inconsistencies and instances of hypocrisy have been noted both by outsiders and former members.
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Beth - tax exemption- absolutely 💯 % SPOT ON!!!!!!