Posts by moreconfusedthanever

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Pioneer Elder Still in Jail (follow up report)

by James Jack in

confirmed by a family friend and elder who lives in the area!

he was a pioneer elder in a port st lucie (river view congregation) fl, convention and assembly speaker, a"shining star" of the circuit and had served at bethel for several years.

was sexually abusing his step daughter from age 8 to 12. his wife has divorced him and moved back to tennessee.

moreconfusedthanever

punkofnice you are right. It is no longer shocking. Yet still you will find ones in the congregations who feel sorry for the accused because he said he didn't do it. There is a brother from my previous congregation in jail right now for pedophilia. "Oh he admitted guilt on the first charge but he says he didn't do anything to the second accuser". This is supposed to make me feel bad for him? He should have been in jail after the first time!!!

And my personal red flag "the two witness rule is there for a protection so that people cannot make accusations that are not true". What!!!???

I asked one of my family "does it not bother you that your donations will be going to pay for lawsuits such as the $66million suit brought against the society in Canada?" Answer "No this is what Jehovah wants of me. It says so. Jehovah will sort it out."

Wow! Just Wow!

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Random thought: Today is the 45 anniversary of my baptism

by NewYork44M in

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friends

i was on the bus this morning and this thought came up while i was playing candy crush.

happy baptism birthday to me.

i was a mere child when baptized.

moreconfusedthanever

mine is coming up in a couple of days. 33 years ago. The two brothers from my congregation, who were also children at the time, are no longer "in the truth" either.

We were never going to finish school. Then we were never going to get married. Then we would never have children this side of the big A.

We never planned for our future and we never followed a career path. Now we may have to be a burden to our children in our retirement.

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Re: Mentally diseased

by carla in

i have been thinking about the mentally diseased belief/doctrine of jw's lately and the thread the other day about the mentally challenged child who was brutally (and humorously) honest at a convention got me to wonder something.

it seems to me that jw's use 'mentally diseased' in such a derogatory way as if it is a failing on the part of the person, or almost sinful (demons?

), or perhaps that person should just be dismissed on all counts all the time.

moreconfusedthanever

I have an autistic son. He doesn't believe that god exists. His mind needs evidence, definitive proof of everything. Blind faith - nope wont have a bar of it.

I often think that the increase diagnosis of autism will one day see the majority of the population unable to grasp the concept of a God. The Autistic mind will become the norm and the neurotypicals will be the odd ones. One well known psychologist Tony Attwood has said that autism may be the next step in evolution.

The autistic mind is pretty awesome. They are not pretenders or fake. They say it as it as they see it. I for one enjoy the honesty.

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Today's Text: Education Is Important... Not You, Higher Education!

by Divergent in

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friends

tuesday, october 24. wisdom is good for you.

if you find it, you will have a future.—prov.

24:14.. as parents, you want your teenage children to remain spiritually healthy.

moreconfusedthanever

It says teenage children. You need to force and insist that the teenagers believe because by this time they have worked out it is all BS. Blackmail them into baptism by withholding basic rights such as a driver's licence.

Threaten them with cutting them off that way they will love Jehovah and the Org all the more.

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A Visit from the JWs, knocking at our door...!

by Muddy Waters in

ha, another visit from the jws.... thankfully they are few and far between (seem to roll around whenever the co visits or is about to visit...)an elder and his wife, presenting the magazines and inviting us to the talks, which are "so encouraging".

he had the saddest, most hang-dog expression, as he bemoaned these last days, so critical to deal with, and how the world was getting so terrible, things are so bad, blah blah blah, and every time i looked at her, she smiled encouragingly at me with that bright-eyed, put-on "sincere" smile.

i thanked them for coming, and said, "i appreciate you thinking about us" (after they said how the "missed us" at the meetings, ugh) -- "but we know where the kingdom hall is if we decide to go back.

moreconfusedthanever

jp1692 lol good thing is I do not miss them.

Incognito I have not heard the term "nonvite". I like it!

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A Visit from the JWs, knocking at our door...!

by Muddy Waters in

ha, another visit from the jws.... thankfully they are few and far between (seem to roll around whenever the co visits or is about to visit...)an elder and his wife, presenting the magazines and inviting us to the talks, which are "so encouraging".

he had the saddest, most hang-dog expression, as he bemoaned these last days, so critical to deal with, and how the world was getting so terrible, things are so bad, blah blah blah, and every time i looked at her, she smiled encouragingly at me with that bright-eyed, put-on "sincere" smile.

i thanked them for coming, and said, "i appreciate you thinking about us" (after they said how the "missed us" at the meetings, ugh) -- "but we know where the kingdom hall is if we decide to go back.

moreconfusedthanever

So nice of them to come in person. When the CO is due around here we get phone calls 20minutes before the meeting starts and maybe a text message.

Recently my mother was saying how many miss us. I told her "my phone is not ringing off the hook and I have had the same number since 1999."

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Classic situation at Circuit Assembly Day

by freddo in

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friends

so i've just skived off to the car park half way through our assembly day - what a classic morning.. i'm sat right behind an early-teen kid with some sort of special needs (autistic?

) who's sat with what looks like his late-30's harassed single parent mother.

(or married to an unbelieving mate?

moreconfusedthanever

Poor kid. Having to sit there would have been pure torture for him and he would be aware that his mother was embarrassed by him and that is not fair on him. Honesty should not cause embarrassment. I have a SNK who speaks his mind and I am never embarrassed by it. Surprised sometimes for sure. He sees and notices things us neurotypical do not and it is never boring in his presence. Haha.

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Learning To Believe Again

by The_Seeker in

i was raised a jw and left the organization when i was 18 years old.

many thought i left because i wanted to live a life full of drugs, sex, and rock and roll, which was not true at all.

i left because i realized that these people had no idea what they were talking about and were simply parroting what the, " society " , told them to believe.

moreconfusedthanever

How great to have worked that out so early on in your life.

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Bank and ATM's..

by zeb in

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friends

i went to the atm to get out my housekeeping and budgeting money.

($650) this covers large bills and everyday shopping for food etc.. made the withdrawal and as i fumbled my wallet the atm took the money back.

a bank staff member was present helping another customer with the other atm and saw this.

moreconfusedthanever

Wow! Thanks for sharing. I didn't know that could happen either. Nwhat an inconvenience.

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Woman threw Watchtower in my face so I voted yes to Australian gay marriage.

by Witness 007 in

years ago on one of my last witnessing trips i left two magazines with an intelligent looking woman with a lovely house.

she gave my a donation and we carried on.

after 45 minutes she tracked us down at another house and returned the mags to me saying we "hate homosexuals and are preaching hatred..." she looked very upset and i was shocked by this and because someone actually bothered to read the magazines i just left!

moreconfusedthanever

I too voted yes. If they don't believe in God why should they have to live by his rules? Plus politics and religion should not mix. There is no valid political reason to stop them from marrying.

There are those who would be happy for them to have a union called something other than "marriage".