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  In need of your advice. November broadcasting 2017

  by pleaseresearch in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  so my mum asked me to watch the broadcast and to my astonishment i got through it without smashing my screen haha.. so i let her know what liars they are for saying they would never deliberately distort a quotation.. she is ok for me to give her some printouts of watchtower material where this has in fact happened, contry to what they say.. where should i start and what would be your best link, or way to approach this.

  i think this is a good opportunity of waking her up, if she can see that the broadcast has lied to her, she won't be happy.. any advice is you can give is so appreciated.. thanks everyone..

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  moreconfusedthanever

  I hope you have success.

  My mum would just say "that was then, this is now. They had some trouble with ones at bethel some time ago and they had a clean up. This is Jehovah's organization and he knows what he is doing."
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  Biblical incidents that bothered me.

  by EverApostate in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i wanted to discuss the (supposed) biblical events that disturbed me a lot when i was a jw.

  these incidents were just read and discussed in the kingdom hall as if these are normal and justified, which clearly weren't.

  perhaps this led to my awakening.

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  The die hard JWs will say "these things seem harsh to us but we do not see as Jehovah sees and he does everything out of love".

  The Uzziah one bothers me the most. No chance to say sorry, no consideration given to his being a mere human and acting on reflex, nothing.
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  Chapter 40 New Boy 50 years a Watchtower slave

  by new boy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  chapter 40 .

  so doc you can see i’m screwed .

  i took her advice and in the spring of 2001 went to a psychiatrists.

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  Its interesting that when you are doubting they tell you to pray about it. They never consider that perhaps the answer to your prayers is to get out of the cult. I too prayed and now I am here.
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  chapter 39 New Boy 50 years a Watchtower Slave

  by new boy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  chapter 39. i’m glad i don’t believe the way you do!.

  your whole life becomes a blur.

  weeks turn into months.

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  moreconfusedthanever

  I was fortunate to have a reasonable father. He never thought it would be a good idea to leave school to pioneer. Lucky he said you should set yourself up in a good job so that if you want to work part time you can still afford your bills.

  My sibling saw a mental health professional who told him he has many patients with issues as a result of being a JW.
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  Can you be disfellowshiped for reading other religious materials?

  by paradisebeauty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am having a conversation with a jw and they say you can not be disfellowshiped for this.

  is this true?

  i thought you can be disfellowshiped for this.

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  moreconfusedthanever

  We had family over last week for a meal. The mandatory preaching began and they had my teenage son look up scriptures on the JW app. He chose to read out the king James version which appears alongside. Should have heard how upset they got when he wouldn't read out the new world translation.
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  Living with non belivers

  by Blade666 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my question is can you as a jw live on same premises as a non jw.... in split house/property with no sexual relations or anything involved... i am being forced to move due to a "sister" wanting to go back to her god and has made the point of saying she cannot have a male around.

  even though the property itself is split with seperate access for both parts of the house.. she has put a blanket rule out saying the whole property itself... doesnt make sense to me nor to any of the elders i have spoken to regarding the matter.. yes i called them as i know next to nothing about the faith.. .

  i find it strange that two elders urge a non jw to seek justice from fair trading and rental tribunal as they themselves do not belive the actions of the "sister" in question or her family to be correct or right... .

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  moreconfusedthanever

  Sounds to me like you would be better off far away from the Looney woman even if the law is on your side.
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  Edgar's (the local crow) Last Chance

  by TerryWalstrom in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  edgar’s last chance.

  have you ever seen a starbucks patio at night?

  the bright, cold moon washes the empty tables, chairs, and concrete with a silver glow.

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  moreconfusedthanever

  Love your story. Hate crows.
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  oh witnesses

  by zeb in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  we attended an orchestral concert last night.

  before the show there was have a drink mingle thing and my dear wife met some sisters who she sees so many times a week and got into a round x round conversation on......fs arrangements.. no commentary on the music to come, the beautiful venue or the opportunity to take in such a concert.

  i went to the loo .....

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  This is because outside the KH and congregation they are not your friends unless talking about such things they have no conversation skills
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  A Little Direction Please

  by Brian J in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  i'm an active elder, cobe, just got home from the meeting where i handled the treasures part and concluded by announcing a friend of mine has been d/f,.....blah blah blah...and over the last year have woken up.

  i simply cannot spill my guts to my wife and children as it would be family suicide.

  i have zero desire to bash, spread my feelings, or become an "apostate".

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  moreconfusedthanever

  I recently read an experience of someone in your position. He moved ever so slowly and used the family study arrangement to encourage his family to research topics and discuss what they found with no judgement on opinions. A safe space to research and discuss everything thereby allowing the entire family to use their own critical thinking abilities to come to the same place he already was. It was very effective.
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  JW HLC....a mixed bunch...what has been your experience?

  by Lee Elder in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  i have had greatly varied experiences with hlc members over the years.

  i was never one myself, but i knew several of them personally.

  most struck me as being generally decent human beings.

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  moreconfusedthanever

  We didn't have a blood issue. We needed to find a surgeon for my dad. We wanted to make sure we got a JW friendly one. Rang local HLC rep who told us to find our own and let them know how it went because they are always looking for good surgeons. What the!!!!!!?

  Anyway we did end up finding a really good surgeon on our own. The inevitable could not to avoided and when my dad was on his death bed in hospital that same HLC brother came to visit and said to me "I didn't think your dad was this sick".

  Words cannot express how I feel about them.