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  What Were Your Elders Real World Jobs?

  by pale.emperor in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  we all know that education is severely demonized in this religion.

  and that the elders are appointed based on how many meetings they attend, hours they put in on the ministry and general attitude to other elders (as apposed to, you know, actual theological training and counseling) - so my question is, what were your elders occupations outside the kingdom hall?.

  in my old congregation our elders consisted of:.

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  Zaccheus

  Elders in 80s and 90s for me:

  Retired small factory owner

  Retired auto factory supervisor

  Car salesman/business owner

  Chimney sweep

  Window/office cleaner

  Utility worker

  Auto mechanic

  Coal miner

  Carpenter

  Floor/window cleaner
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  Is Christianity contingent on belief in a talking snake?

  by cobweb in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this is a question mainly for those who are christian as i myself am not:.

  to what extent is christianity contingent on a belief in the book of genesis.

  i know there are some christians who accept that the creation story is a myth, and maybe the adam and eve story too.

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  Zaccheus

  Yes, Hisclarkness has stated the contingency of Christianity. Within the two central laws of Christ lies the foundation: Love God and love your neighbor. NOT a talking snake. Yes, Jesus also talked about that, but in the context of archetypal mythology, as Aha suggests, the Law of Love was understood in the worldview of Hebrew understanding 2000 years ago.

  While the archetype of serpent and savior are difficult to nail down, we understand the next chapter of Genesis explains the fall from grace for mankind is somehow tied to the shift in human worldview as pastoral hunter-gatherers were supplanted by a rising agrarian civilization. Abel was considered still close to perfection for offering his prized sheep, but Cain was considered inferior for his offering from the farm.
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  Counting time

  by Emma in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i may not have put this in the correct spot, but i do think it's scandalous the way time gets counted now.

  i've seen a cart at the edge of our farmer's market, never anyone close enough to talk.

  yesterday was a drizzly day and there were two carts set up, covered in plastic, "witnessing" on their own.

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  Zaccheus

  I loved it when we worked a distant rural territory, and someone would take us to their in-town territory to knock on a door or two "to start our time." Supposedly we couldn't count our drive time unless we "punched in" with an official ringing of a doorbell.

  I always started my time when we pulled out of the KH parking lot.
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  Dating J.W small fishpond compared to ocean....who married a loser because of this???

  by Witness 007 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so your a witness and want to get married or jehovah forbid remarried.

  welcome to the pond of losers you can chose from!!!

  who struck out in the marriage department..

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  Zaccheus

  I married my best friend pretty much. Not exactly a loser, but we were both unprepared for life in the real world and we had problems from the beginning. Also, if we had been allowed to have a normal sexual relationship before marriage, we probably would not have rushed in so young, had opportunities to date others, and may have realized we were better as friends instead of marriage mates.
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  PRESS RELEASE: This is not over, on the contrary. I do not retract.

  by sp74bb in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i appreciate all the expressions of interest and solidarity.

  it has been a very intense week.

  i started with the help of many of you, a particular war for my rights as a european citizen.. we have achieved an important space and advertising with a single complaint, which is a great success that i share with you all.. the press has not only spoken about a single complaint, but they gave a full coverage on asocial behavior of jehovah's witnesses and the last, a very hard editorial from the newspaper el periodico director (link).

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  Zaccheus

  Fantastico! You are fighting for all of us, but especially those who have been severely abused by the Darktower. Be discreet, but stay strong!
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  What's The First "Worldly" Thing You Did When You Exited The Cult?

  by pale.emperor in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  when you finally and officially exited the cult, whether it be by disfellowshipping, disassociating or fading - what was the first things you did that are considered "worldly"?.

  for me, it was like crash landing on another planet that looked like earth but was completely different to the earth i knew.

  i wanted to learn everything that i thought i already knew.. first things i did:.

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  Moved to a hippie farm

  Lived homeless a few years and travelled the country

  Worked for a soup kitchen

  Became a coffee house bum

  Hugged a lot of trees
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  According to one JW there can only be 1 of 3 reasons why you left.

  by Bonsai in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i asked an old jw friend of mine why so many baptized individuals leave the jw religion.

  "did it ever occur to you, old friend, that maybe they know something that you don't know and have valid reasons for leaving?

  ", i asked.. his response set me back for an answer.

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  I left because I wanted to smoke grass and write anti-establishment poetry.
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  What would be the perfect song to introduce a JW comedy sketch?

  by usualusername1 in

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  i have no idea.... .

  any ideas will help.... .

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  "Knockin' On Heaven's Door" probably the Guns N' Roses version for comedic effect.
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  The Watchtower try to give a modern twist to the scriptures.

  by StephaneLaliberte in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i was listening to the september broadcasting, where david splain talks about how jacob met with esau.

  david splain: how did jacob react?

  did he try to show how important and prominent he had become?

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  Zaccheus

  Thank you Stephane for catching this twisting of the scriptures, since I can't quite stomach watching any of those videos very long. I usually just fast forward to the goofy songs at the end of the broadcast!
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  Will they change the Yearbook format?

  by freddo in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  pure speculation here but i'm wondering if - with the numbers flat-lining - that the gb will stop giving country by country stats, or perhaps at least some of the statistics.. we used to get a monthly stat in the km - then that was "simplified" to "highlights".

  only the "good" stuff.

  then with the new clam workbook, no stats at all.. i wonder if the yearbook will soon only contain "positive" spun stats.

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  Zaccheus

  Actually, Millie, although second generation Latinos in the US are likely to follow the same course as their Anglo counterparts, the steady flow of new immigrants will easily balance that out. And so far among Latinos in the US as well as Latin American countries, JWs have a fairly good reputation in their communities. There isn't as much stigma against JWs, and in some places JWs are the most popular religion next to Catholicism.