Posts by Scully

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Did anyone see "Four Weddings" on TLC 2011/05/06 - JW bride

by Scully in

only caught part of this program during my tea time at work last night.. the premise: 4 brides competing with each other, and hosting the other brides at their wedding, scoring the wedding and reception.

the prize was an all expenses paid island honeymoon.

i didn't particularly care what was on tv, but a couple of my colleagues were watching it, but boy did i ever do a double take when one of the brides, named celeste, would not enter the church for the second and third weddings, based on her beliefs as a jehovah's witness.

Scully

NoRoomForGeorge:

she messed up big time. That's very bad publicity for JWs. The matter of entering a church for a wedding is a conscience matter, its not a concrete doctrine where one can be reproved or DFd over. What she just did was advertise the WT's doctrinal contempt of other Christian denominations.

wasblind:

her decision not to step into a church only show how much she don't know about her own religion

My work-mates and I had a bit of a discussion around that during the commercials. They said how they felt it was very rude to be on a program like that if she was unwilling to participate in all the activities. I explained that she was behaving in an extreme way, because entering the church is not against the religion, but participating in another religion's worship is. They were all surprised at that, and then became annoyed that she publicly misrepresented JW beliefs, and concluded that she was a nasty b!tch trying to make herself look "better" than everyone else.

Them being able to pay for a $45,000 wedding is probabaly a good indication of her family's influence within the congregation. There's different rules when it comes to random nobody JWs, and JWs with infuential families. I mean influential in the sense of material posessions, but also if the family has theocratic heavyweights within the congregation or the circuit.

That was another negative for my co-workers. They felt that she was a big phony from a spiritual perspective and a show-off from a material perspective.

sherah

I bet that JW bride was marrying a 'unbeliever' hence the banquet hall wedding.

I thought that might be the case too. Either that or she is a spoiled brat and wanted the big wedding without the JW vows and their sad excuse for music, and the Elders™ wouldn't let her use the KH for the event. I was waiting to hear "Marriage is God's Arrangement" as her father (?) walked her down the aisle (whoever he was, he didn't look like he was having a very good time). It didn't happen. The wedding was somewhere in NJ, so I was wondering if anyone recognized the venue - and could tell whether it was an Assembly Hall or just a normal banquet hall/convention centre. I imagine with that kind money, an Assembly Hall wedding and reception wouldn't be out of the question - especially if the family had some "influence".

WontLeave

Probably an indoctrinated but inactive or never-baptized born-in. All the baggage, but for absolutely no reason.

Excellent summation. Somehow I think "all the baggage, but for absolutely no reason" should go on a T-shirt!

By the way, I apologize for the lack of "spoiler tags" in the original post.

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Did anyone see "Four Weddings" on TLC 2011/05/06 - JW bride

by Scully in

only caught part of this program during my tea time at work last night.. the premise: 4 brides competing with each other, and hosting the other brides at their wedding, scoring the wedding and reception.

the prize was an all expenses paid island honeymoon.

i didn't particularly care what was on tv, but a couple of my colleagues were watching it, but boy did i ever do a double take when one of the brides, named celeste, would not enter the church for the second and third weddings, based on her beliefs as a jehovah's witness.

Scully

Only caught part of this program during my tea time at work last night.

The premise: 4 brides competing with each other, and hosting the other brides at their wedding, scoring the wedding and reception. The prize was an all expenses paid island honeymoon. I didn't particularly care what was on TV, but a couple of my colleagues were watching it, but boy did I ever do a double take when one of the brides, named Celeste, would not enter the church for the second and third weddings, based on her beliefs as a Jehovah's Witness. The producers accommodated her by setting up a closed circuit TV for her to watch the wedding in the limosine.

I was like WTF?? So, naturally, I had to see the rest of the show. I thought, oy my co-workers are gonna laugh when they see what passes for a wedding at a Kingdom Hall.

But, for me, the most horrifying thing was the JW bride. What a frikkin' b!tch!!!!!! She low-balled the other brides on the scores she gave them, complained about EVERYTHING, and made herself look like a glutton with all the food she ate. Then to top it all off, the wedding was not at a Kingdom Hall after all! It was held in some huge banquet hall, and wasn't even the usual JW ceremony, with the JW vows. Plus, the show disclosed the cost of all the weddings - hers was $45,000!!!!! (the other two that I saw were $20,000 and $30,000). This supposed JW chick had the most lavish and ornate shindig and two wedding dresses instead of just one - a bonafide showy display - and there must have been 500 guests - so contrary to WTS counsel.

I was very happy when the two brides who got married in churches (the ones her holier-than-thou stuck up ass refused to enter) wound up in a tie to win the grand prize, and this fake JW wannabe princess went home empty handed.

Did anyone else happen to see the show??

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Is "Theocratic Warfare" a Guaranteed Right?

by ABibleStudent in

quote from: july 15, 2011 watchtower study guide, left-side insert on page 6. why a russian verdict is reviewed in france.

on february 28, 1996, russia signed the european convention on human rights.

(on may 5, 1998, russia ratified the convention.

Scully

uh, yeah... about that article... Jerry Bergman PhD is probly not the best "expert witness" to use when presenting your case in court.

Just sayin'.

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What's the most dumbest/petty thing you've heard of someone being "stumbled" over?

by Reality79 in

- some loser once took offense that i hugged a sister goodbye at a leaving do and ran back to the elders like a little child telling on me.

i was 15, this sister was in her 40s at the time.. - this elder said someone told him they saw me with a copy of the sun newspaper.

yes, this paper is known for its 'page 3' topless girls but far from pornagraphic and i wasn't even thinking along those lines.. - one brother who had a good job was 'counselled' because he was actually able to buy himself nice things including a new car (shock, horror!!

Scully

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What's the most dumbest/petty thing you've heard of someone being "stumbled" over?

by Reality79 in

- some loser once took offense that i hugged a sister goodbye at a leaving do and ran back to the elders like a little child telling on me.

i was 15, this sister was in her 40s at the time.. - this elder said someone told him they saw me with a copy of the sun newspaper.

yes, this paper is known for its 'page 3' topless girls but far from pornagraphic and i wasn't even thinking along those lines.. - one brother who had a good job was 'counselled' because he was actually able to buy himself nice things including a new car (shock, horror!!

Scully

An older Sister™ told me that I was Stumbling™ her for buying a Glamour magazine and getting my hair done like one of the photos in the magazine. She claimed that "those trashy magazines" were the first step in leaving The Truth™. Now that I think of it, the only "trashy magazines" that drove me out of The Truth™ were The Watchtower and Awake!

I thought to myself It figures... just look at how she keeps her hair.

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"Spiritual Endagerment As Grounds For Divorce"? Paleeez!!!

by itscrap&theyknowit! in

i've noticed my husband (w/the backing of the brothers) trying his best to 'catch me' or imply inproper dealings or what whatever with the opposite sex.

we had a big blow up where it resulted in his being terribly cursed out and demeaned (by me, of course and i hate doing that but it is the only way to keep him at bey).

i hate when he tries to incriminate me when it comes to a simple acquaintance or phone call.

Scully

re: your daughter - I can tell she is really stressed about it (baptism at an early age)

Keep telling her that she doesn't have to do it if she doesn't feel ready. Remind her, as often as you need to, that Jesus didn't get baptized until he was 30 years old. Besides, what is the big rush? So your husband can shun her if she makes a mistake a few years down the road and gets DFd??

I'd also ask your husband why he is colluding with the elders to entrap you with this legally unrecognized charge of Spiritual Endangerment™? Tell him that legally he's free to leave without going through all those stupid hoops - tell him "just don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out!"

(puts $5 wager on the table that he's the one sneaking around with someone else)

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Did Jesus make wine or grape juice

by jam in

jw
friends

proverbs 23;31-33, commands, "do not look on the wine when it is red,.

when it sparkles in the cup and goes down smoothly.

bites like a serpent, and stings like an adder (viper).

Scully

I think someone peed in a cup and they called it champagne.

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My Wife is reading "Learn From a Great Teacher" to my oldest daughter.

by garyneal in

in the past, i've tried reasoning with my wife concerning the reading of religious materials to our children but the reasoning is not getting through.

she believes that since my oldest daughter prefers church to the kingdom hall (no surprise) that in order to provide any kind of 'true' religious instruction she must read wt material geared to the kiddies.

in the past, i reasoned that if she insists on reading material to her that will ultimately trash my way of life then i could do the same.

Scully

Band on the Run:

Yet I know many Jewish-Christian marriages from being in NY. I don't sense shame there but they respect each other very much. The problem I see is that the Witnesses are relentless. Grey does not exist for them.

The problem is neither shame nor that the JWs are relentless. It is that they have no respect for views other than their own. When mutual respect is part of the dynamic, all that secrecy, shame and my-way-or-the-highway mentality has nowhere to take root. If you get a JW to agree to a cooperative coparenting relationship with a non-JW or ex-JW it would solve these issues in a heartbeat. Unfortunately, the WTS requires and compels JWs to take an all-or-nothing approach and encourages bullying the other parent into letting them take over the spiritual leadership in a family. They really truly want to create as much misery as possible. What a loving arrangement, no?

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This stopped me in my tracks. Sad but inspiring, please read...

by unshackled in

jw
friends

this is sad but also quite inspiring...thought i'd share it.. .

a gentleman named derek miller passed away yesterday from cancer.

he was loved and admired by many in the vancouver area (and beyond).

Scully

but

I'm a frikkin mess now.

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When You Don't Like a Person ...

by snowbird in

... you don't like to say his/her name.. years ago, i was told that by a psychology major.. http://blog.al.com/live/2011/05/sarah_palin_praises_familes_of.html.

see paragraph 13.. also, in a speech in denver, colorado, on monday evening, she refused to call the president by his name.. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/03/sarah-palin-osama-bin-laden_n_856811.html.

yet, she's a christian.. syl.

Scully

kinda like Voldemort, eh?