Posts by Scully

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I could really use some advice :(

by FifthOfNovember in

okay, here's some background information.. my girlfriend is in a program at a college about 30 minutes away.

she can only come home on the weekends and i usually go over once a week to visit.

there is a guy there that she hangs out with quite a bit, she's mentioned how he is really nice and funny.

VERY depressed

by youngbro in

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friends

i have severe clinical depression and right now, for whatever reason it is really acting up....

i know some might not agree with this but i believe this:depression is not from God it is from the devil it is not a medical disease it is a demonic spirit.meds can help the symptoms but not cure the problem

You are full of shit. How DARE you contradict a medical diagnosis with 2000 year old superstitions? Do you have ANY idea how reckless and dangerous it is to tell a depressed person that they are possessed by demons??? Do you want to be responsible for someone's suicide??

My advice to you is to keep your bullshit opinions to yourself. You aren't helping, not one bit.

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Telling a Depressed Person It's Demons!

by NewChapter in

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when a person is depressed, their cognitive abilities are depleted.

they are processing reality through a very negative filter and need help getting balanced.

they often experience fear, guilt, hopelessness and anxiety.

Scully

This was one of the pivotal incidents in my decision to leave the JWs.

I'd been severely stricken with postpartum depression, and one day someone popped in to visit - presumably to cheer me up. She'd been in our Book Study™ for some time, and had recently been Baptized™. Her pre-JW history included claims of being bothered by The Demons™, along with drug and alcohol abuse. Anyway, while I was making tea / tending to the baby / using the washroom, she was snooping around my house for evidence of demon-possessed items. At some point during the visit she let it slip that one of the Elders™ had asked her to investigate our home, using her "expertise" in these matters, and knowing that I had gone to some garage sales with his wife earlier that summer. She was quite proud of the fact that she was given such an "assignment", and was pleased to tell me that she couldn't sense that any of my possessions were Demonized™.

When I found out who had put her up to snooping around my house, I asked her if she'd been asked to check the Elder's™ wife's garage sale finds for demon possession. Apparently not, because "she isn't the one who is depressed, is she?"

I can't even begin to describe the feeling of violation, not just of my family's privacy (not that you're allowed a private life as a JW), but of my psychological well-being most of all, particularly considering the visit was conducted under the false pretense of a social visit to lift my spirits. Rather than accept the scientific evidence that my illness was real, they had the temerity to override my medical diagnosis with 2000 year old superstitions of demon possession.

That visit was the beginning of a downward spiral that ended the day after the Memorial™ - where Attendants™ refused to pass the Emblems™ to me (apparently instructed to do so for fear that I might Partake™ unworthily) - with me in hospital on a suicide watch.

I'll never forgive them for what they put me through. It was the worst year of my entire life.

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Should conscientious objectors to gay marriage be allowed?

by rebel8 in

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previous, related thread: ny catholic church on new gay marriage law.

gay marriage is finally legal in my state.

let the next wave of ignorance begin!.

Scully

"I would not want to put my name on any of those certificates or papers,” MacEwen she told Politico. “That’s their life, they can do it, but I don’t feel I should be forced into something that’s against my morals and my God.”

There's a difference between issuing a marriage licence (or licence for domestic partnership, if you want to call it that) and particpating in genocide. And you know what, if she lived in Nazi Germany and worked for government back then, she probably would have done exactly what she was ordered to do, whether it was tattooing serial numbers on the forearms of new detainees, or documenting the same numbers after the corpses were carted out of the gas chambers.

She's doing exactly what her leadership (the Campaign for Children and their Families) expects of her - blind compliance to a hate-mongering agenda. Oddly enough, that's more like the Nazis than legalizing gay marriage.

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Amy Winehouse Found Dead

by NewYork44M in

very sad.

i liked her and the intensity she brought to her music..

Scully

Just heard that on the news... very sad.

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"Drugs are demonic, mmmmkay?"

by Mr. Falcon in

i hope everyone is having a wonderful summer filled with district conventions and auxillary pioneering.

just kidding, let's talk drugs.. as a kid growing up in the mid-80's and through the 90's, we had all kinds of lame, pointless anti-drug programs at school.

the most common one was the d.a.r.e.

Scully

Once you let your mind go idle (blank), you are opening it up to demons. That is why drugs, yoga, or relaxation techniques are not allowed.

Oh, and don't even THINK about going for hypnosis.

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"Drugs are demonic, mmmmkay?"

by Mr. Falcon in

i hope everyone is having a wonderful summer filled with district conventions and auxillary pioneering.

just kidding, let's talk drugs.. as a kid growing up in the mid-80's and through the 90's, we had all kinds of lame, pointless anti-drug programs at school.

the most common one was the d.a.r.e.

Scully

It's funny, isn't it, how the demons can differentiate between legitimate prescription medication and the very same medications when consumed illegally, without prescription.

Deyz freaky smart, dem demunz.

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Angry mob of Facebook JWs.

by fade_away in

i was looking through my facebook and one of the friends i have on there is very angry at a particular girl who added brothers and sisters from different congregations as friends for the sole purpose of bashing the jws on their profiles.

they use the word "bashing" but who knows really if all she was doing was showing them genuine, unbiased information about the wt.

anyway, i got a kick out of the fact that an "apostate" infiltrated a lot of jw profiles as a "friend" then went all apostate on them!.

Scully

Those comments were really disturbing.

If only they could see themselves the way everyone else does (i.e., batshit crazy).

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Ceiling Cat Vs Basement Cat

by MsDucky in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebxcbi3c67k.

Scully

lolz

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Abusive Families Drawn Like Moths to a Flame or Does WTS Help Develop Abusive Attitude?

by OnTheWayOut in

so many ex-jw's are stepping forward here and other places and relaying information about their upbringing in the jw's being an abusive one.. we have the two types of abuse- physical and sexual.

i thought i would give a chance to everyone to ponder on what's up with the high levels within watchtower congregations.

i know the subject has been covered before, but some fresh voices and some new readers might want to know that they are not the freak, not the problem in their family, not alone, able to relate to others.. as far as physical abuse goes, i consider the attitude of wts that is passed on- beat the littlest of children in order to keep them quiet during meetings.

Scully

I feel that people with abusive tendencies are drawn to groups like the JWs. The group allows them to rationalize their abusive tendencies in a context of the moral authority they claim is present in the bible. The JWs also have very strong gender roles, so any male with a desire to "lord it over" his wife and family will feel like he's "come home" within the JWs belief system. And likewise, a woman who prefer to defer all decision-making within the family to the husband, will feel as if the belief system validates her own perspective.

My parents didn't rely on physical abuse as much as they did psychological abuse. One event that I've never been able to forget was from when I was about 5 years old - close to 6, and had just been reintroduced to my paternal grandparents. I was painfully shy, and besides didn't know them, didn't remember meeting them before, and they were like strangers (and we'd just gone through a big "don't talk to strangers" thing when we moved to a new neighbourhood). So my dad expected me and my siblings to kiss grandma and grandpa (dad's parents) goodnight. I didn't want to. He took me to the room where I was to sleep that night, and hissed at me "Get out there and give grandma and grandpa a kiss good night, or I WILL NEVER SPEAK TO YOU AGAIN."

That was before the JWs were even a blip on my family's radar. But I have to wonder whether the belief system was attractive to him, in part, because it allowed him to justify potentially shunning people who didn't fit in with his worldview.