Mary writes:
I'd estimate that most elders look at porn at least occasionally........
Agreed, but I'm *sure* it's only for "research" purposes.
Posts by Scully
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86QFR WT MARCH 15TH - PORN - D/F
by stillajwexelder ini assume you are all aware of this by now.
qfr could a christians practice of viewing pornography.
become so bad that it results in his being expelled.
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The latest change in Watchtower vocabulary to catch out the unwary
by slimboyfat ini got a copy of the recent kingdom ministry the other day and it reminded me of something in the book the orwellian world of jehovha's witnesses by heather and garry botting.
it's on the front page of the december issue of the km, they have a heading called "not 'alternative' witnessing" where they explain that the term is no longer considered appropriate and "public" witnessing should be used instead.. in the orwellian world of jehovah's witnesses the bottings discuss the importance of the particular language jws use to set themselves apart from other people.
they redefine common words to give them a particular slant, such as "brother", "sister", "literature" and so on.
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Scully
punk of nice wrote:
folded bit of paper =
Kingdom Ministry
Kingdom Service
then back to
Kingdom Ministry
and yet is, and always has been, toilet paper for my cat's litter tray.
serenitynow! wrote:
Can you explain to me what is happening in that picture?
They are making crop circles, honey!
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Emotionally blackmailing an acutely mentally ill person!
by serenitynow! inso my sister recently got out of the hospital after being suicidal and expressing a lot of delusional thoughts.
she is doing a lot better, but she is by no means back to her normal self.
my sister is an exjw, technically just inactive, but she reads the several versions of the bible and prays.
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Scully
Sadly the toxicity of emotional blackmail knows no boundaries.
I would love to see watch-dog type organizations in place that were set up to protect the mentally ill from those who don't have their best interests at heart.
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where are these words in the bible?
by bigmac ini may have asked this before.. i dont have a bible in the house ( or want one ).
can anyone tell me --where--in any translation---these exact words or phrases occur?.
jehovah's witness.
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judicial committee
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A BIG change the Watchtower will have to face up to . . .
by nicolaou in1995 drew a line of demarcation.
the doctrinal rudder of freddie franz was gone, the sacred cow of the 1914-generation had been slaughtered and the internet had arrived!.
it will take a while longer but the time is coming when pre-1995 old timers like the gentleman below will be an impotent force within the society - if that hasn't happened already.
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Nic, I couldn't help but notice just how happy that chap looks.
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It`s just a matter of time B4 some" crazy"JW reads between the lines & takes matters in his/hers own hands
by smiddy inwith the latest wt`s hate sessions against so-called apostates,former members who have had serious doubts about the religions claims to being the "chosen" of almighty god to dispense food at the proper time to the faithfull,eg:" mentally diseased"contagiously diseased,dont go near them etc.and of course exposing their dismall record of ever getting anything right as far as expectations ,prophecy,correct understanding of scripture and it`s interpretation,the flip flop backtreading on certain scriptures,and god knows what else,its only a matter of time b4 some delusional" witness"gets it in their head to take matters in their own hands and do jehovahs work,get rid of, kill some apostates,even if it`s family members.. the wtb&ts seem to be putting more and more pressure on the faithfull to hate all opposers.
i dont think this is beyond the possabillity of reality given that a dis proportionate number of jw`s suffer some form of mental deficiency,whether this is why they become jw`s or whether this is something that develops after being in the religion for some extended time.
smiddy.
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Scully
Obviously you haven't heard of Christian Longo, Christopher Speight, Kenneth Pickett, Kelle Jarka, Otty Sanchez, Michael Smith, Rodolfo Ortega, James Kostelniuk, Eunice Spry, Leon Slack, Eloy Leon Kings, Joseph Ambrose, Julio Lopez, Kevin Hensley, Robert Bryant and several others.
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Thanking God For Food?
by dontplaceliterature inhave you ever considered the fact that by implication, when we thank god for food (if you do), we are also saying that he is responsible for the lack of food in the case of others who are not as fortunate as we are?
if you are acknowledging that it is god who is responsible for your physical well-being, and that you don't have plenty because of your own sensibility and hard work, then what about those who are not physically well?
what about those who do not have enough to eat?
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It used to bug me when at the family dinner table, my father would thank Jehovah for the food, but he would never thank my mother for preparing it.
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Christopher Hitchens has died.
by botchtowersociety in.
http://www.vanityfair.com/online/daily/2011/12/in-memoriam-christopher-hitchens-19492011.
it angers me that we still do not have the technology to save these people.
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Scully
Dammit, that's the second greatly-admired-by-me person this week to have died.
$h!t, f*ck and dammit all to hell.
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JWs react with joy when something bad has happen to inactive or DF'd ones
by Anator ini've noticed when i was an active dub that some jws act joyful whenever they hear that an inactive jw or a df'd person had something bad happen to them.
some have a glee-ful smile and they give that *look* that says, "we told you so".
have you ever experienced what i'm referring to?
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It's called Schadenfreude. The WTS grooms them to behave this way.
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So my JW wife cheated on me. Need some help or at least a sympathetic ear.
by JonathanH ini have neither friends nor family to turn to.
the result of being born in a cult.
but i need to talk about this.
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Scully
Yes, she cheated. She became emotionally involved with someone other than you.
You wrote:
she felt like our marriage just wasn't as passionate as it could be, she wanted more sex, but it wasn't my fault, that I am a great lover and she knows I've been working full time and going to school full time and still paying all our bills and managing our house. But she went.
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we do actually have a happy marriage, I don't know exactly why she did this. We are sexually active and the sex is good, I am exceedingly attentive to her day and night. I treat her like a princess. I write lovey notes in her lunch box sometimes. In English 101 in college this past semester, we had to write an essay on our idea of paradise and mine was just three pages of talking about laying in bed with my wife (It got an A if that matters.) She hung that essay up on the refrigerator. We go on dates and to the movies, even when I am ridiculously busy. We had been on a nice date just the night before.
It seems to me that you both have a very different perception of your relationship. Maybe your communication between yourselves needs to improve so you can both feel that your needs are being met. Probably you have been busy with working and school and despite your perception of attentiveness toward her, her perception is that it isn't what she needs. Maybe she is bored with a perceived lack of attention. Maybe your previous level of attention "spoiled" her and she is acting out in an effort to get attention.
I agree that counselling is imperative. If she says it is "over" with the other guy, she needs to prove it. At the very least, she needs to transfer to a different department within the company she works for so she does not have to deal with the other guy, and if that's not possible, she needs to get another job ASAP. The other thing she needs to address is her naïveté and how she was able to so easily fall for the guy-going-through-a-terrible-divorce-just-looking-for-someone-to-talk-to crap. That is so cliché that it's silly. The first time that guy paid obvious and "awkward" attention to her should have been the LAST time. You didn't mention how long that had been going on prior to it leading up to her going to his place, gussied up in fancy underwear, but there was encouragement on her part and definitely no discouragement from her, or it never would have gone that far. When you don't like that kind of attention from a man in a workplace situation, it's very simple to say "Knock it off, I don't appreciate you doing that" and then file a complaint for sexual harassment if it continues. When you don't want that kind of attention in the workplace, you don't ramp things up by wearing special underwear or respond positively to the attention or agreeing to spend time beyond your work duties with the person who is paying you that kind of attention.
Maybe you need to ask her if she wants out of the marriage, or wants out of the JWs, or both and was using this as a means to an end. It wouldn't be unheard of for someone to do that, even within the JWs. She cheats, gets DFd (although no intercourse may only get her Reproved™), gets Scripturally Divorced™, eventually gets Reinstated™, and is free to remarry. I've heard of cases where a couple goes to the Elders™, one confesses to Adultery™ so they can get a Scriptural Divorce™, the confessor gets DFd (the one with the least to lose socially), and then the other fades because of "depression" or "stress". Both then can pursue new relationships with non-JWs.
You know your wife better than we do, so you'd probably have a better handle on her motivations and any underlying desires to leave the JWs. Even if you think you have answers from her, you owe it to yourselves to get some counselling so that you both have all your cards on the table in order to make a fresh start if that is what you both want.