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Posts by Scully
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2/15 WT - WTS Controls by Fear, Confusion, Separating Friends & Family
by flipper inonce again in a wt study article entitled " imitate jesus' example of watchfulness " the wt society tries to control jw members through fear mongering, confusing them by inconsistent and contradictory wording, and emphasizing devotion to wt society " sacred service " over devotion to family and friends.. we all know the wt society has always said that " nobody knows the day and hour " of the alleged armageddon - yet out of the same mouth the wt society claims to know the " day " of the end close enough to have duped people with 1975 and put fear into jw's that the " end " is " imminent" .
notice these quotes from paragraph 4 in this article.
it states, " in brief, jesus wants us to remain watchful because of what we know and what we do not know.
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Scully
Sorry LoneWolf, I had to delete your post as it was showing up blank in IE (although it was visible in Chrome and Firefox) and people were not able to read further in the thread.
Here is the text of your reply:
Hi, Flip!
I wholeheartedly agree too.
You know what I'd like to see? I'd like to see a separate website set up specifically for the Watchtower publications, but done in a way that minimizes or eliminates our opinions, because our opinions are what scares the ones still in the most. They won’t listen to them.
Instead, take each article and dissect it, quoting a certain part as you did above, then contrasting it with something else. For instance, quote their words about not knowing the day or the hour and contrast that with their “knowing” it is soon. Simply ask which it is. At most, ask why God wouldn’t want them to know the day or the hour, for if the reason is to catch people as they really are instead of the false front they put on when trying to impress someone, wouldn’t the Society’s efforts tend to counteract Jehovah’s reason for arranging things that way?
In regard to the part about their minimizing family values to being secondary, contrast that with a scripture or two and then ask how one can accomplish both at the same time.
About the husbands finding work, contrast that with the scripture that states that the man who doesn’t provide for his family is worse than an infidel. Ask how this is to be understood, especially in a down economy like we have now.
Contrast things between the public and study issues, and ask why we need to keep things secret from the public.
Don’t give any answers to these questions. Let them hang in the air.
LoneWolf
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QFR WT MARCH 15TH - PORN - D/F
by stillajwexelder ini assume you are all aware of this by now.
qfr could a christians practice of viewing pornography.
become so bad that it results in his being expelled.
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Scully
Mary writes:
I'd estimate that most elders look at porn at least occasionally........
Agreed, but I'm *sure* it's only for "research" purposes.
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The latest change in Watchtower vocabulary to catch out the unwary
by slimboyfat ini got a copy of the recent kingdom ministry the other day and it reminded me of something in the book the orwellian world of jehovha's witnesses by heather and garry botting.
it's on the front page of the december issue of the km, they have a heading called "not 'alternative' witnessing" where they explain that the term is no longer considered appropriate and "public" witnessing should be used instead.. in the orwellian world of jehovah's witnesses the bottings discuss the importance of the particular language jws use to set themselves apart from other people.
they redefine common words to give them a particular slant, such as "brother", "sister", "literature" and so on.
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Scully
punk of nice wrote:
folded bit of paper =
Kingdom Ministry
Kingdom Service
then back to
Kingdom Ministry
and yet is, and always has been, toilet paper for my cat's litter tray.
serenitynow! wrote:
Can you explain to me what is happening in that picture?
They are making crop circles, honey!
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Emotionally blackmailing an acutely mentally ill person!
by serenitynow! inso my sister recently got out of the hospital after being suicidal and expressing a lot of delusional thoughts.
she is doing a lot better, but she is by no means back to her normal self.
my sister is an exjw, technically just inactive, but she reads the several versions of the bible and prays.
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Scully
Sadly the toxicity of emotional blackmail knows no boundaries.
I would love to see watch-dog type organizations in place that were set up to protect the mentally ill from those who don't have their best interests at heart.
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where are these words in the bible?
by bigmac ini may have asked this before.. i dont have a bible in the house ( or want one ).
can anyone tell me --where--in any translation---these exact words or phrases occur?.
jehovah's witness.
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judicial committee
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A BIG change the Watchtower will have to face up to . . .
by nicolaou in1995 drew a line of demarcation.
the doctrinal rudder of freddie franz was gone, the sacred cow of the 1914-generation had been slaughtered and the internet had arrived!.
it will take a while longer but the time is coming when pre-1995 old timers like the gentleman below will be an impotent force within the society - if that hasn't happened already.
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Nic, I couldn't help but notice just how happy that chap looks.
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It`s just a matter of time B4 some" crazy"JW reads between the lines & takes matters in his/hers own hands
by smiddy inwith the latest wt`s hate sessions against so-called apostates,former members who have had serious doubts about the religions claims to being the "chosen" of almighty god to dispense food at the proper time to the faithfull,eg:" mentally diseased"contagiously diseased,dont go near them etc.and of course exposing their dismall record of ever getting anything right as far as expectations ,prophecy,correct understanding of scripture and it`s interpretation,the flip flop backtreading on certain scriptures,and god knows what else,its only a matter of time b4 some delusional" witness"gets it in their head to take matters in their own hands and do jehovahs work,get rid of, kill some apostates,even if it`s family members.. the wtb&ts seem to be putting more and more pressure on the faithfull to hate all opposers.
i dont think this is beyond the possabillity of reality given that a dis proportionate number of jw`s suffer some form of mental deficiency,whether this is why they become jw`s or whether this is something that develops after being in the religion for some extended time.
smiddy.
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Scully
Obviously you haven't heard of Christian Longo, Christopher Speight, Kenneth Pickett, Kelle Jarka, Otty Sanchez, Michael Smith, Rodolfo Ortega, James Kostelniuk, Eunice Spry, Leon Slack, Eloy Leon Kings, Joseph Ambrose, Julio Lopez, Kevin Hensley, Robert Bryant and several others.
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Thanking God For Food?
by dontplaceliterature inhave you ever considered the fact that by implication, when we thank god for food (if you do), we are also saying that he is responsible for the lack of food in the case of others who are not as fortunate as we are?
if you are acknowledging that it is god who is responsible for your physical well-being, and that you don't have plenty because of your own sensibility and hard work, then what about those who are not physically well?
what about those who do not have enough to eat?
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It used to bug me when at the family dinner table, my father would thank Jehovah for the food, but he would never thank my mother for preparing it.
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Christopher Hitchens has died.
by botchtowersociety in.
http://www.vanityfair.com/online/daily/2011/12/in-memoriam-christopher-hitchens-19492011.
it angers me that we still do not have the technology to save these people.
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Scully
Dammit, that's the second greatly-admired-by-me person this week to have died.
$h!t, f*ck and dammit all to hell.