so i was randomly watching a show on investigation discovery today - the show was called killer next door, and the episode was called murder without motive.. the show is a french-canadian program that has been translated into english, and this particular episode had to do with a homicide that took place in ste-croix-de-lotbiniere, near quebec city, in november 1999 of a young man named victor lemay.. the confessed murderer was his friend, andre roy, then aged 22.. in the year or so that preceded the murder, andre roy had been disfellowshipped from the jws and had, as a result, been kicked out of his parents' home.
he had no social support outside of the jws and had to start making new friends.
the psychologists on the program felt very strongly that the shunning he experienced by the jws in general, and his family in particular, contributed to increasing rage, and that his friend, victor, became a convenient outlet for his rage.
Hi Nathan
It was a very happy day, indeed, when The Supreme Court of Canada declared that a child's fundamental right to life trumps his/her parents' religious beliefs that would deny the child a life-saving blood transfusion (or other medical treatment that offends their religious sensibilities).
Now if only we could get certain Muslims to stop the effing "honour" killings of their wives/daughters.
so i was randomly watching a show on investigation discovery today - the show was called killer next door, and the episode was called murder without motive.. the show is a french-canadian program that has been translated into english, and this particular episode had to do with a homicide that took place in ste-croix-de-lotbiniere, near quebec city, in november 1999 of a young man named victor lemay.. the confessed murderer was his friend, andre roy, then aged 22.. in the year or so that preceded the murder, andre roy had been disfellowshipped from the jws and had, as a result, been kicked out of his parents' home.
he had no social support outside of the jws and had to start making new friends.
the psychologists on the program felt very strongly that the shunning he experienced by the jws in general, and his family in particular, contributed to increasing rage, and that his friend, victor, became a convenient outlet for his rage.
@Violia and OUTLAW
I didn't know that about the WTS's use of the name "André" - so I guess when they say "names changed", that's another lie too, huh??
Mind you, it's been a while since I picked up a WT or Awake, and actually read it.
is anyone able to post this years dc badge for printing?.
i'm a man with a plan .
mawahhhhhhh!.
Oh, you could also pretend that you're a member of the local press, there to record the Baptism™ festivities.
canmore has been hit really hard, looks awful.. and all that water is coming our way .... http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=m9f35m-fovi.
http://www.calgarysun.com/2013/06/20/heavy-rain-in-banff-canmore-area-causes-flooding-forces-evacuations.
http://globalnews.ca/news/658584/flooding-washes-out-trans-canada-highway-banff-canmore-declare-states-of-emergencies/.
Stay safe!
so i was randomly watching a show on investigation discovery today - the show was called killer next door, and the episode was called murder without motive.. the show is a french-canadian program that has been translated into english, and this particular episode had to do with a homicide that took place in ste-croix-de-lotbiniere, near quebec city, in november 1999 of a young man named victor lemay.. the confessed murderer was his friend, andre roy, then aged 22.. in the year or so that preceded the murder, andre roy had been disfellowshipped from the jws and had, as a result, been kicked out of his parents' home.
he had no social support outside of the jws and had to start making new friends.
the psychologists on the program felt very strongly that the shunning he experienced by the jws in general, and his family in particular, contributed to increasing rage, and that his friend, victor, became a convenient outlet for his rage.
vidiot writes:
"André"?
Seriously???
Sure.... it's a very common name among French Canadians. What seems to be the problem?
is anyone able to post this years dc badge for printing?.
i'm a man with a plan .
mawahhhhhhh!.
I could look at some photos that I have access to and approximate one for you.
when you were a believer did you give large donations to the society?
if so how much did you give?
i know an elder who's a chiropractor and he generously gives $400-800 a month to the society.
I once calculated the value of non-monetary donations, using a very scant minimum wage to account for time spent going Door-to-Door™, travelling to and from Meetings™ and in Field Service™, Personal Study™, Family Study™, and Meeting Attendance™.
Then I estimated cost of fuel spent in getting to and from Meetings™, driving around in Field Service™ and picking up and dropping off extra people for every damn Meeting™ (without so much as a 'Thank you', btw).
On top of that, there were wardrobe expenses - Meetings™-and-Field-Service™-only dresses and suits and shoes, coats (winter, spring, fall) and boots.
Then there was travel to Circuit Assemblies™, District Conventions™ and Special Assembly Days™, and associated hotel expenses when we had to travel out of town.
It amounted to well over $10,000 per year for our family. And really, there wasn't anything left to put in the Contribution Box™. I had been riddled with guilt over that for many years until I sat down and did that calculation - and then all that guilt suddenly evaporated.
so i was randomly watching a show on investigation discovery today - the show was called killer next door, and the episode was called murder without motive.. the show is a french-canadian program that has been translated into english, and this particular episode had to do with a homicide that took place in ste-croix-de-lotbiniere, near quebec city, in november 1999 of a young man named victor lemay.. the confessed murderer was his friend, andre roy, then aged 22.. in the year or so that preceded the murder, andre roy had been disfellowshipped from the jws and had, as a result, been kicked out of his parents' home.
he had no social support outside of the jws and had to start making new friends.
the psychologists on the program felt very strongly that the shunning he experienced by the jws in general, and his family in particular, contributed to increasing rage, and that his friend, victor, became a convenient outlet for his rage.
So I was randomly watching a show on Investigation Discovery today - the show was called Killer Next Door, and the episode was called Murder Without Motive.
The show is a French-Canadian program that has been translated into English, and this particular episode had to do with a homicide that took place in Ste-Croix-de-Lotbinière, near Quebec City, in November 1999 of a young man named Victor Lemay.
The confessed murderer was his friend, André Roy, then aged 22.
In the year or so that preceded the murder, André Roy had been disfellowshipped from the JWs and had, as a result, been kicked out of his parents' home. He had no social support outside of the JWs and had to start making new friends. The psychologists on the program felt very strongly that the shunning he experienced by the JWs in general, and his family in particular, contributed to increasing rage, and that his friend, Victor, became a convenient outlet for his rage. André Roy's girlfriend testified that he wanted his father blamed for the crime.
Although it's uncommon for Disfellowshipped™ individuals to go to such extremes as a result of shunning, we have seen enough murders committed and suicides to make a compelling case that the practice of Disfellowshipping™ and consequent shunning are harmful and sometimes dangerous practices.
simon's thread about making a will reminded me of this issue, and the fact that many of you may not have given it much thought.. .
this is something that occurred to me many years ago - and i have a good friend listed as my next of kin (nok).
a few years ago, i had a situation where i was hemmorhaging, not capable of giving consent because i was heavily sedated, and the permission had to be signed.
So, where would I get a PoA-HC form that wasn't from WTBT$?
Google has lots of sites to choose from:
For residents of Ontario, Canada: http://www.attorneygeneral.jus.gov.on.ca/english/family/pgt/poa.pdf
http://www.virtual-law.com/index.php/estate/personal_care_and_medical_decisions/
simon's thread about making a will reminded me of this issue, and the fact that many of you may not have given it much thought.. .
this is something that occurred to me many years ago - and i have a good friend listed as my next of kin (nok).
a few years ago, i had a situation where i was hemmorhaging, not capable of giving consent because i was heavily sedated, and the permission had to be signed.
Please make sure you have a discussion with your NOK (Next of Kin) or PoA-HC (Power of Attorney for Health Care) before just assigning that role to them. Talk about your wishes regarding blood transfusions and about organ donation. Also discuss the lengths you want the health care team to go to in the event that you will not survive the situation.
This is not a pleasant discussion. It can be very emotional, so make sure you set aside the time for it, and have the conversation with a clear mind. If they aren't aware of the JW-related issues with JW people who will most definitely assume that they have the right to be your NOK over the person of your selection and could make things difficult for your Person, they need to know this stuff - it's extremely important.
Writing a will is something that I procrastinate on, although I know it's something that needs doing.
