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  My mother continues with these creepy letters

  by sosoconfused in

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  as i continue to post these letters just to let people see what they can expect through a fade, i hope they are not annoying anyone.. if so please let me know and i will no longer post them.

  however i think these letters help you to see how cultish and crazy this religion causes people to become:.

  evening <name removed>,.

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  Scully

  I hear ya, ((((Josie)))).

  But playing the victim is her choice too. She chooses to be a toxic bully, and then claims her feelings are hurt when people don't want anything to do with her. Well, duh.

  It isn't rocket science.
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  My mother continues with these creepy letters

  by sosoconfused in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  as i continue to post these letters just to let people see what they can expect through a fade, i hope they are not annoying anyone.. if so please let me know and i will no longer post them.

  however i think these letters help you to see how cultish and crazy this religion causes people to become:.

  evening <name removed>,.

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  Scully

  wasblind:

  If that don't make a person say " I'm not gonna take this anymore " I don't know what will

  Sorry for the visual...

  But seriously, if you know that someone in your life is toxic and has the pattern of "shitting a guilt trip down your throat", you have other options.

  1. Keep your mouth shut.
  2. Don't swallow what you know to be shit.
  3. Don't give them the opportunity to sit on your face to begin with because you know how it's going to end. Cut off communication if you can't find another form of resolution.
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  My mother continues with these creepy letters

  by sosoconfused in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  as i continue to post these letters just to let people see what they can expect through a fade, i hope they are not annoying anyone.. if so please let me know and i will no longer post them.

  however i think these letters help you to see how cultish and crazy this religion causes people to become:.

  evening <name removed>,.

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  Scully

  Holy crap, that letter reeks of toxic emotional blackmail. It's butt-ugly, man. There is no respect for you, your wife, your children, your parenting style or anything. Imagine her sitting on your face and shitting a guilt trip down your throat - that's what that letter is.
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  Friend gets "scriptural divorce" over wifes transgressions before they got married...

  by sosoconfused in

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  so i have a friend in a congregation in new jersey who recently called me to tell me that he got a divorce.

  nothing surprising there at first but it is the fact of when it happened.

  his wife began pioneering april 1, and after about three weeks she came to him and told him that about 4 years she had engaged in loose conduct (fondling the penis and the guy kissing her breasts) during a time that she was inactive.

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  Okay, I'm looking at the 1991 Edition of Pay Attention to Yourselves and All the Flock, pages 92-94

  Sexual misconduct, including adultery, fornication, and other forms of "por.nei'a."

  Uncleanness includes an intentional momentary touching of sexual parts or caressing of breasts. (1 Thess. 4:7, 8; 1 Tim. 5 :1, 2) Such minor uncleanness can be handled at the discretion of an elder or two; it does not require a judicial hearing. There is a need for strong counsel, admonition, and assistance to help the individual to maintain chaste conduct in the future. If not corrected, such conduct may escalate in gravity and by frequent repetition become loose conduct.

  Loose conduct is a shocking, flagrant disregard for Jehovah's moral standards. (Gal. 5:19; w83 3/15 p. 31; w73 9/15 pp. 574-6) It may include the willful practice of heavy petting or the fondling of breasts. The nature, circumstances, and actual extent of what has occurred may indicate loose conduct, which would require judicial action.

  Such practices can easily lead to por.nei'a . "Por.nei'a" involves immoral use of the genitals of at least one human (whether in a natural or a perverted way), and there must have been another party to the immorality - a human of either sex or a beast; willing participation incurs guilt and requires judicial action . It is not a casual touching of the sex organs between persons but involves the manipulation of the genitals. (w83 6/1 pp. 23-6 ; w83 3/15 pp. 30-1) It includes oral and anal sex or mutual masturbation between persons not married to each other, homosexuality, lesbianism, fornication, adultery, incest, and bestiality. (Lev. 20:10, 13, 15, 16 ; Rom. 1:24, 26, 27, 32; 1 Cor. 6:9, 10)

  Also included are sexual abuse of children, including practices involving a catamite (a boy kept for purposes of sexual perversion). (Deut . 23:17, 18, Ref. Bi., ftns.)

  Victims of sexual abuse need to be treated with extreme thoughtfulness and kindness . Elders should always do what they reasonably can to protect children from further abuse ; follow the Society's directives on such matters. (g85 1/22 p. 8)

  Self-abuse, or masturbation, is not "por.nei'a," nor would one who was raped be guilty of por.nei'a. (w83 3/15 p. 30; w74 3/1 p. 160; it-1 pp. 862-4 ; tp p. 144) The term por.nei'a lays emphasis on both the lewd nature and the intent of the person's conduct, and it embraces all illicit sexual activity characteristic of that found in a house of prostitution.

  Copulation (as in penetration) is not necessary to constitute por.nei'a, and neither is sexual climax.

  In borderline cases, it is the responsibility of the judicial committee to weigh carefully the Scriptures and the particular facts in the case to determine whether por.nei'a was involved. This responsibility should not be taken lightly, especially when Scriptural freedom to remarry is involved. (Mal . 2:16a )
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  Friend gets "scriptural divorce" over wifes transgressions before they got married...

  by sosoconfused in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so i have a friend in a congregation in new jersey who recently called me to tell me that he got a divorce.

  nothing surprising there at first but it is the fact of when it happened.

  his wife began pioneering april 1, and after about three weeks she came to him and told him that about 4 years she had engaged in loose conduct (fondling the penis and the guy kissing her breasts) during a time that she was inactive.

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  Scully

  She had multiple episodes with the guy but all kissing and heavy petting(petting... such an old word). Then one day it went further. He rubbed her bare breasts and she put her hands in his pants. She stroked his penis and he almost had a happy ending.

  someone who had committed fornication and never repented officially. This nullifies the marriage bond.

  Heavy petting, or whatever it's called now, is NOT fornication. In JW land, fornication = penis in vagina. Touching, fondling, stroking, kissing is not fornication, it is technically classified as loose conduct in the Elders' Manual™ - that's why so many effing child molester JWs get away with that $h!t.

  It doesn't nullify the marriage bond. Clearly she was repentant - she cried and turned her life around immediately. Just because she made the choice not to submit to personal humiliation in front of three adult males and possibly get DFd and kicked out of her parents' home, doesn't mean that she didn't make her peace with Jehovah™ before meeting your friend. It seems like a no-brainer that if she had felt it was a big enough deal, she would have talked to him about it before they got married - and I'm personally wondering if your friend has some 'splainin' to do about his past as well.
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  Friend gets "scriptural divorce" over wifes transgressions before they got married...

  by sosoconfused in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so i have a friend in a congregation in new jersey who recently called me to tell me that he got a divorce.

  nothing surprising there at first but it is the fact of when it happened.

  his wife began pioneering april 1, and after about three weeks she came to him and told him that about 4 years she had engaged in loose conduct (fondling the penis and the guy kissing her breasts) during a time that she was inactive.

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  Scully

  And this is after the Prodigal Son video where David™ sobs after hooking up with a Worldly™ girl from work and begs Jehovah to forgive him.

  And the Elders™ don't DF him. Because he cried like a little b*tch. I bet whats-her-name wore a thong too.

  Only in JW land do unmarried males cry in guilt and shame after losing their virginity.
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  Friend gets "scriptural divorce" over wifes transgressions before they got married...

  by sosoconfused in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so i have a friend in a congregation in new jersey who recently called me to tell me that he got a divorce.

  nothing surprising there at first but it is the fact of when it happened.

  his wife began pioneering april 1, and after about three weeks she came to him and told him that about 4 years she had engaged in loose conduct (fondling the penis and the guy kissing her breasts) during a time that she was inactive.

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  Scully

  "I do know however that if a brother who is married goes to a strip club and pays for a lap dance it is considered adultery. This was told to us by our instructor at the week long elders school. "

  That's got my BS detector on red alert. There's no way in HELL they'd make it that easy for a WIFE to get a Scriptural Divorce™.
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  Friend gets "scriptural divorce" over wifes transgressions before they got married...

  by sosoconfused in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so i have a friend in a congregation in new jersey who recently called me to tell me that he got a divorce.

  nothing surprising there at first but it is the fact of when it happened.

  his wife began pioneering april 1, and after about three weeks she came to him and told him that about 4 years she had engaged in loose conduct (fondling the penis and the guy kissing her breasts) during a time that she was inactive.

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  Scully

  sosoconfused

  Your friend needs to hear that what happened before he knew his wife is ANCIENT HISTORY. I bet there are boobs that he fondled and girls he French kissed before he met his wife too, that he didn't disclose to her.

  When you get married, you promise to be faithful to your partner 'from this day forward' - it has no basis for dredging up the past and digging through a person's private life. Starting a marriage is about looking forward, not fixating on the past.

  It just goes to show you what kind of vindictive, sadistic perverts have been Appointed By Holy Spirit™ to meddle in a couple's relationship like this. HOW DARE THEY tell him that he ought to be offended or that he should seek a Scriptural Divorce™ based on this trifling bit of ANCIENT HISTORY. It's not like she was gang-banging or prostituting herself to help make ends meet while Pioneering™.

  How was manipulating him like this an act of LOVE? How is destroying this couple's marriage like this supportive, loving or even kind?

  Whatever happened to "What God has yoked together let NO MAN put apart"??

  How much you wanna bet that one of those blathering idiot Elders™ fantasizes about your friend's wife and would love to have her hands on his dick?
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  Friend gets "scriptural divorce" over wifes transgressions before they got married...

  by sosoconfused in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so i have a friend in a congregation in new jersey who recently called me to tell me that he got a divorce.

  nothing surprising there at first but it is the fact of when it happened.

  his wife began pioneering april 1, and after about three weeks she came to him and told him that about 4 years she had engaged in loose conduct (fondling the penis and the guy kissing her breasts) during a time that she was inactive.

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  Scully

  So, does that mean *any* JW could seek a Scriptural Divorce™ if that kind of information was not disclosed prior to a JW couple's marriage?

  Frig, that means I would be eligible to have a Scriptural Divorce™ because Mr Scully didn't disclose to me his pre-JW dalliances before we married. We even had to go through an interview with the JW Elder™ who would be officiating at our wedding, and one of the questions we were each asked was whether there were any indiscretions that needed to be disclosed in order for him to have a Clear Conscience™ about doing our ceremony.

  This is some messed up $h!t.

  I bet you dollars to donuts if it was the husband with a "history", they'd expect the wife to forgive and forget, and act like their wedding day started with a clean slate.
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  How I Treat Patients Who Refuse Blood Transfusions

  by TJ Curioso in

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  how i treat patients who refuse blood transfusionswhy cant jehovahs witnesses have a shabbes goy make medical decisions for them?by chavi eve karkowsky|posted tuesday, june 25, 2013, at 10:45 am.

  a placental blood pouch is prepared to be sent to a blood bank at hospital haut leveque university hospital of bordeaux, france.. photo by bsip/uig via getty images.

  when you are performing the first interview of a new patient at the high-risk obstetric clinic where i work, question no.

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  Scully

  Wow, that is really a great article, and a very interesting approach.

  Thanks for posting it.