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  Complete Donation – What Happened?

  by Marvin Shilmer in

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  2. friends

  complete donation what happened?.

  today i added a new article to my blog showing part of a never before publicized letter where the watchtower organization makes admission of how jehovahs witnesses actually responded to the 1990 change to its complete donation arrangement.

  my article is titled complete donation what happened?

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  Scully

  It's kind of funny, but when they first moved to the Complete Donation Arrangement™, Mr Scully was assisting the Ministerial Servants™ on the Literature Counter™, and I commented that there would be massive orders for cassette tapes, CDs and expensive volumes that people generally didn't purchase because they were considered to be luxury items. Mr Scully gave the people in the Congregation™ the benefit of the doubt and said that it was like being on the honour system, and the Brothers™ would be fair and honest and contribute accordingly. I told him he was dreaming in Technicolor™.

  I also objected to the idea that we were expected to Donate™ the same amount as we did prior to the Complete Donation Arrangement™, plus any Contributions™ we received from Householders™ were expected to be put in the Contribution Boxes™ as well. I considered that to be "double dipping" as far as the WTS was concerned and I'm so glad the whole thing blew up in their greedy faces.

  That's what happens when you're in league with Billy Graham as a "Friend of the Court", dumbasses.
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  Your views and ideas on forum areas and organization?

  by Simon in

  1. forum
  2. announcements

  this may come as a shock to some people, but the current forum structure was kind of thrown together without much real thought and then evolved a bit over time.

  there are a few things that particularly grate on me and areas where i don't think the subjects work particularly well.

  'friends' is a bit vague and becomes a dumping ground, news & world events vs politics & current affairs is hard to decide sometimes, child abuse is a scandal but isn't contained withing 'scandals & coverups' etc.... with a new forum platform imminent, it's a good time to solicit ideas to improve things.

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  Scully

  I'd love to modify/update my profile, using pics from photobucket or flickr or uploaded from my PC.

  Also my email address that I first registered with is long gone, so any email notifications I may get or password retrievals etc wouldn't work for me.

  A way of knowing at a glance when I have a PM, rather than having to go into my PMs to check, and possibly the option to receive PMs via email.

  A preview function to check formatting of a post prior to posting would be lovely.

  A subscribe to this thread/unsubscribe option, with possible email notification of thread activity, as well as a Like button (toggle on or off in case you click the like button by mistake).
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  At the DMV and what do I see?

  by whathehadas in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  the jw's are taking it a little too far.

  people have to wait in line and be tortured by the sight of this.. .

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  Scully

  Oh and that sign "Free Bible Literature" is misleading.

  Once you start accepting the Free™ Bible Literature, they'll want your soul in return.
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  At the DMV and what do I see?

  by whathehadas in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  the jw's are taking it a little too far.

  people have to wait in line and be tortured by the sight of this.. .

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  Scully

  Isn't the DMV a GOVERNMENT office? Why the hell are they even allowed there? Haven't they heard of the separation of church and state?
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  Is it common to,,,

  by label licker in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  have a local needs on apostasy, have everyone shun you, have no shepherding calls since you left for over a year, and now a jc tomorrow evening????????.

  spoke to branch committee as well as co and they said to go and if we were treated unfairly then to call the co. don't get it.

  the co would have known about the local needs talk on apostasy and says if we were treated unfairly to call him.

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  Scully

  label licker

  I would love to show up with a lawyer to a Judicial Committee™, just to watch those b@$t@rd$ from my former Congregation™ crap their drawers.

  You have rights under the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, including the right to representation when you are accused, the right to the presumption of innocence until proven guilty, as well as the right to face your accusers, protection from self-incrimination, plus the right to not be subjected to cruel and unusual punishment. The WTS presumes to deny people of these fundamental rights, under the "ecclesiastical" escape hatch. The fact is, you are being accused of something that will dramatically change the way people interact with you, including your family and friends. That falls under defamation of character and slander.

  They aren't going to tell a lawyer to not take notes, and they aren't going to tell a lawyer that you aren't entitled to representation. The second they try, the lawyer is going to tell you to say nothing to these hicks and then will walk out of the meeting with you.
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  Are You Interested In Religion Of Any Sort At This Point In Your Life?

  by minimus in

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  personally, i respect that everyone has choices to believe whatever they want to believe.

  i have no interest in joining another religion....what about you?.

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  Scully

  I have no intention of joining any religion ever again.

  However, as an atheist, I do kind of enjoy looking at things religious people say and do that make me *facepalm*.

  
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  Blast from the Past

  by Athanasius in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  [if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:worddocument> <w:view>normal</w:view> <w:zoom>0</w:zoom> <w:donotoptimizeforbrowser /> </w:worddocument> </xml><![endif].

  last friday i got a message on my classmates account from alice, a jw girl i hadn't seen in over 40 years.

  i checked her profile and in her current photo she is wearing a native american necklace and earrings with tribal or religious symbols.

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  Yes, I posted about it here: Have you ever tried to re-connect with old JW friends? How did it go?

  It wasn't pretty.
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  Canada police say 5 dead, about 40 missing after oil train blast

  by Think About It in

  1. social
  2. current

  this is horrible.

  train derailment happened in lac-megantic, quebec.

  officials expect the death toll to increase.

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  Scully

  Current news reports places the death toll at 13 with another 37 people unaccounted for.
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  Can Anointed Members Be Disfellowshiped?

  by Cold Steel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  since the anointed class used to be the faithful and discreet slave, i wondered if and how they can be disciplined through being disfellowshiped?

  aren't they given a little more latitude in how they interpret scriptures and in what they say?

  do people in kingdom halls who have anointed members defer to them in any way?

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  Scully

  The way it is explained, a person who is of the Anointed™ just knows that they are one of the Anointed™.

  It's said that when someone of the Anointed™ reads the Bible™ it is as if it was a letter written to them by God.

  Now, having said that, the WTS has made it abundantly clear that the number of 144,000 Anointed Ones™ was pretty much used up by the 1930s. They have allowed that there may be some individuals whose status was revoked due to Apostasy™ or some other Unforgiveable Sin™, and those few individuals would need to be replaced. However, there have been some who have claimed to be of the Anointed™ (I know of two personally) late into the 20th century, and the Congregation™ and the Elders™ generally go along with the claim provided the person doesn't make a big deal of their status.

  To answer your question, they can be Disfellowshipped™. In fact both of the people I knew who claimed to be of the Anointed™ ended up being DFd.
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  Was I too harsh?

  by chrisuk in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hello, first let me apologixe for both my spelling and my grammer in advance, both are not my strong points.. i'll keep this short.

  since i've been a child my mother has studied on and off with jw's ( i'm now 34) so i've been around it most of my life, i studied on and off myself for around 10 years.

  thank's to this site and jwfacts i'll never study or step foot inside a kingdom hall again.

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  Scully

  That was a terrific letter.

  I'm curious as to how he'll respond. You know they can't stand it when you tell them there's a line that you don't want them to cross.