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  Former Jehovah's Witness elder committed to stand trial accused of Sunshine Coast rapes, sexual abuse

  by yalbmert99 in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-03-20/former-jehovahs-witness-elder-to-stand-trial-accused-of-rape/103612422.

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  Earnest:

  No, Scully. According to a Jehovah's Witness spokesman he "was not in an appointed position throughout the time of the alleged events”. (Courier Mail, September 5, 2022)
  So it follows that he was removed as an elder before 2008, when the incidents started. That doesn't entirely tie in with the police allegation that he "used his position of religious standing within the Jehovah’s Witness community to target young men in their late teens to early 20s between 2008 and 2018" but it could be true.

  Thanks for the clarification, Earnest. I just don't believe the "spin". Sexual predators can take a long time grooming their victims and the victims' families. These guys weasel their way into "friendships" with them, becoming a trusted member of families. They don't just wake up one day and decide to molest and rape minors. They start out with youngsters and get the families to trust them to be alone with the kids. They do fun stuff together, playing games at the family's home, being part of the Book Study™, accompanying the family on outings, paying for stuff, having dinners together, etc. All of that could have been happening long before the sexual assaults occurred.

  I know this because there was one in my Congregation™, assigned to the Book Study™ group in my family's home, and I was his target (after his step-daughter and daughters). My dad, a Ministerial Servant™, was not privy to this information, only that he had been Disfellowshipped™ and Reinstated™ TWICE before. The Elders™ in-the-know decided that their own daughters deserved protection and distance from the predator, and I did not.
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  Former Jehovah's Witness elder committed to stand trial accused of Sunshine Coast rapes, sexual abuse

  by yalbmert99 in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-03-20/former-jehovahs-witness-elder-to-stand-trial-accused-of-rape/103612422.

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  Let me guess.... he was still an Elder™, In Good Standing™ at the time these incidents occur. No surprise there.

  The other thing... he was let back in after being Removed™ as an Elder™... without ever having to apologize to his victims, and his victims were required to testify before the Judicial Committee™ with him right there in front of them.

  F*cking B@stards.
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  Beards vs. Shunning announcements

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  during lett’s announcement that beards are now allowed he elaborated at some length how brothers ought to feel and react to the change in policy.

  he warned brothers not to resent not being able to grow beards earlier if they had wished to do so.

  he also warned brothers who supported the old policy not to allow themselves to wonder what the point of doing so was now that it has changed.

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  jehovaxx:

  It will be interesting if someone tries it like they celebrate Xmas every year and then say they are repentant every time. Will the elders follow the new direction?

  The solution to that is easy: keep your fairy lights up all year round - they look rather lovely in the summer evenings while you're out on your patio or balcony partaking in some wine.
  
  
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  June 2024 WT: Don't talk about Anthony Morris

  by neat blue dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  the latest study edition mentions hypothetical scenarios of jws who are no longer serving at bethel or no longer elders, etc.

  and says we shouldn't speculate, as defaming them could border on slander.. we could unintentionally defame someone by spreading negative information.

  ..... would it be proper to speculate on the reasons why these adjustments were made and to share that opinion with others?.

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  I remember when Ray Franz was banished - there was an announcement in the Kingdom Ministry™ to not speculate on why he was gone, nor to attempt to contact him. Something to that effect. It was a very long time ago. Could it be....?? was he lurking here... ?
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  Beards vs. Shunning announcements

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  during lett’s announcement that beards are now allowed he elaborated at some length how brothers ought to feel and react to the change in policy.

  he warned brothers not to resent not being able to grow beards earlier if they had wished to do so.

  he also warned brothers who supported the old policy not to allow themselves to wonder what the point of doing so was now that it has changed.

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  I wonder how many JWs who have been shunning DFd and DAd family members and friends for years are going to feel reluctant about reaching out to touch base with those folks, and what their reaction will be when those family members and friends tell them to pound sand?

  Honestly how does one approach that?

  "Hey! Long time no chat! We just got New Light™ that we can talk to you again... isn't that great?"

  *click*

  "hello? hello?"

  *crickets*
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  Who Pays The Ferryman....?

  by hillary_step in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  french philosopher blaise pascal once noted, "men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction.

  " a case study for this statement can clearly be evidenced by the governing body of jehovahs witnesses.. the gb present themselves as lovers of truth and righteousness who are the only persons on this planet who speak for god.

  this doctrine is at the very core of the beliefs of jehovahs witnesses and is one of the few that cannot be rationalized away by wts apologists.

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  What a lovely person to talk to. Miss him a lot.
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  Hailstone message AND everyone will be saved? Questions

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i’ve not been paying close attention to watchtower developments, but talking to a jw yesterday it occurred to me the society (yes, still use that term - old school) have been sending out mixed messages in recent years.

  from what i gather, a few years ago the gb announced that during the great tribulation jws would be required to preach a “hailstone message of judgement” which involved telling people it was too late for them to repent and they were definitely going to be destroyed.

  there were hints that this could be very soon, “any day now” preaching could stop and the hailstone message come in, kind of thing.

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  Earnest:

  • This was reported on in the October 15, 1923 Watchtower (pp.307-314), the sheep were identified as those in Christendom who were sympathetic towards the Bible Students and their message.

  There is a reason why scholarly articles do not recommend using sources that are 100+ years old... it's supposedly because we are 100+ years smarter.

  And... it belongs in the dungheap.
  
  
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  New rules for dress & greeting disfellowshipped: It's even worse!

  by neat blue dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i know they're panicking and trying to gain favor with governments, former members, prospective converts & those who are teetering, all for financial worries.

  still, the latest update in some ways made things worse, and if there's any jws watching it who are beginning to wake up it should be very disturbing.. starting with dress codes: they say that suits, ties & skirts are no longer required, but in so doing they admit that they were required, something not often appearing as an explicit command in print.

  (similar to how lett referred to the "policy on beards" in his video, even though this direct policy wasn't made available to rank and file.

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  Ozzie!!!

  How are you??
  
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  GB Update #2, March 2024: Women allowed to wear pants, no ties/coats required if not giving a talk, & now able to greet DF ones in the KH!

  by WingCommander in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  you heard me correct, this is not a joke, and it is not april fools day!

  the asl portion of the governing body updated #2 (march 2024) has been released a bit early and someone caught it.

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  Halcon:

  I predict birthdays, mother's Day and Father's Day will be next. The blood thing is tricky bc there is explicit rules on it in the scriptures.

  If I recall correctly the explicit rules in the OT were against partaking in blood for nourishment, as was the case in groups other than the Hebrews. I can still see that being a thing, making sure that your sausage doesn't contain any "meat by-products", which (in the 70s) was my job when going food shopping with my mom.

  Blood transfusion as a medical treatment, though, is not - as former WT Publications™ falsely stated - a nutritional thing, and as such, cannot be interpreted to be a practice that is prohibited in the bible.

  When your blood volume is severely and/or decreased (as in a trauma like a GSW or MVA, or a postpartum hemorrhage), you will die if you are not replenished. Also even if you survive, the loss of red blood cells takes a long time to naturally return to the level it was before the blood loss occurred. You need the red blood cells to feed the the body from the inside, providing oxygen, removing carbon dioxide and other waste materials, sometimes with the help of the lungs, other times with the digestive system. The brain cannot function properly with oxygen saturations below normal levels (92-100%); we can adapt and survive, but we can't thrive the way we should.

  When a woman has a postpartum haemorrhage and her hemoglobin level drops to 70-80% of what is normal, she won't be able to produce milk for her newborn, because her body is severely occupied with keeping her alive. It can take months to recover from that. (been there, done that)

  If anything, the GB can use the example of David pouring out water that his men had risked their lives for to acquire on David's behalf, as if the water was a blood sacrifice, to show the value of blood - what is now a very renewable resource in the field of medicine - to save lives. Ecclesiastes 9:4 "a live dog is better than a dead lion" conveys the meaning that it is always better to live when you have an option to keep yourself alive.

  In the How Blood Can Save Your Life booklet, they came up with some cockamamy rationale that because Jesus gave his life for others, that JWs can only respect that sacrifice by being willing to sacrifice themselves in the face of death. It's just another lame control tactic by men in suits. I'd be willing to pay for a ringside seat when (not "if") a class action lawsuit for wrongful deaths happens brought forward by people who lost loved ones for coerced (or else DF) refusal of blood transfusions. The number of deaths around the world probably outnumber those of Jonestown by at least a factor of 20.
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  GB Update #2, March 2024: Women allowed to wear pants, no ties/coats required if not giving a talk, & now able to greet DF ones in the KH!

  by WingCommander in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  you heard me correct, this is not a joke, and it is not april fools day!

  the asl portion of the governing body updated #2 (march 2024) has been released a bit early and someone caught it.

  summary: .

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  All I can say is that Farkel and alanf must be spinning in their graves.