Mouthy
Will this be airing in all of Ontario?? We have Rogers here too, so I'll watch for you.
Love, Scully
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29T.V apperance
by mouthy ini have been asked to go live on channell 20 rogers t.v tomorrow night.
to explain about the calgary man that has been shunned ffor giving his daughter a blood transfusion.9.00p.m.
till 9.30 p.m.. if any on here pray- please pray for me to have the "know how" to answer the call in questions....
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one of those mornings
by rodnico inthis morning i had a bizarre dream.
first off i was taking a road trip with my mother and some other witnesses (bad enough).
they really wanted to go to a meeting in the city that i grew up in, so i say fine, whatever.
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Scully
Last night was my turn for a JW dream invasion too, by the "Sister"/"best friend" who told me (in real life!) that if I turned my back on The Truth™ that my kids would be better off if I took them out in the back yard and blew their heads off with a gun. She had taken it upon herself to asphyxiate my son by blasting spray paint in his face.
I woke up before I saw anything else. It was about 4am and I couldn't get back to sleep until about 6am.
What a freakin' night!
Love, Scully
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Need Help! About Blood Transfusion
by Marvin Shilmer innot too long ago i read a news story on this forum about deaths due to medical errors in australian hospitals.
i think it had something to do with statistics generated by some minister in a department of health in australia.
part of the article cited numbers of deaths (or errors) due to blood transfusions and a conclusion that transfusions were given more often then medically necessary.
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Scully
Marvin:
"The problem with blood transfusions is that there is absolutely no certainty of survival - a recent New South Wales Health Department study showed that 18,000 Australians die each year as a direct result of blood transfusions (wrong blood type, contaminated, toxic shock etc.)."
His assertion is preposterous, and maybe dishonest! We will see how he responds when confronted with fact.
While the Awake! piece never actually says that "18,000 Australians die each year as a direct result of blood transfusions" it is precisely what they want the average rank and file JW to believe. They are experts at jumping to conclusions and conjecture.
Do let us know what your "friend" says once confronted with the facts.
Love, Scully
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Witness man shunned
by messenger inhttp://www.canoe.ca/nationalticker/canoe-wire.jehovahs-transfusion.html.
march 10, 2002 .
jehovah's witness man shunned after consenting to daughter's blood transfusion.
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Scully
Hawk:
I would be interested in corresponding with this Dad as well. I may be able to offer him some medical information if he needs it, and certainly want to express my support.
Love, Scully
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Help needed Re: Elders stepping "aside"
by Pathofthorns ini have a vague recollection of elders who voluntarily took a break from their positions due to health matters or to take care of family situations.. in some of these cases it was possible for them to have some sort of understanding with the congregation that they would still be respected as elders but without the title and less assignments.. i realize this subject is somewhat stupid, but i have my reasons for asking and if anyone has sound information regarding situations where an elder can take advantage of something like this and how one would go about it, it would be appreciated.. path
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Scully
DB writes:
I also feel that the better term is "step aside" or simply "resign", but the step down term seems to be entrenched in jw jargon.
Yes, I agree with Imbue. The mot-du-jour from at least the early/mid 90's is "delete". IMO, "delete" has an even worse feel to it than "stepping down"; maybe it's meant to discourage elders from resigning/ retiring/ stepping down/ stepping aside from their duties. It kind of reminds me of the phrase regarding disfellowshipped people: "they are dead to you". "Deleted" has that same feel.
Love, Scully
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Help needed Re: Elders stepping "aside"
by Pathofthorns ini have a vague recollection of elders who voluntarily took a break from their positions due to health matters or to take care of family situations.. in some of these cases it was possible for them to have some sort of understanding with the congregation that they would still be respected as elders but without the title and less assignments.. i realize this subject is somewhat stupid, but i have my reasons for asking and if anyone has sound information regarding situations where an elder can take advantage of something like this and how one would go about it, it would be appreciated.. path
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Scully
I don't remember exactly when the term "stepping down" as an elder was subjected to "new light" and changed to "stepping aside". Seems to have been in the late 70's, early 80's from my recollection.
If you go through some of Amazing's posts of his personal experience, he describes a "provision" whereby he was able to retain his eldership without the attendant responsibilities, while caring for his family's needs. Up until I read that post, I had no idea such a provision existed. As I recall, this happened in the early 90's for Brother Amazing.
DocBob, good to see you posting here!!
Love, Scully
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Scary...
by SYN ini said, wouldn't it be redundant to disfellowship me?
after all, i left ten years ago of my own accord.
" he said, "but you can't leave.
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Scully
I said, “Wouldn't it be redundant to disfellowship me? After all, I left ten years ago of my own accord." He said, "But you can't leave. You can never leave us. We can expel you. But you, having been baptized into The Truth, are one of us until we say you're not." - Barbara Grizutti Harrison, Visions of Glory
Why am I suddenly hearing "Hotel California" in my head??
Welcome to the Hotel California....
You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave!Love, Scully
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Fornication Vs Divorce
by chezza inhi all,.
i was reading another post earlier about wether or not to let your children bf gf sleep over and brought something to mind that i have given a great deal of thought too.
we all know very well the stand the witnesses take on no sex before marriage, and i wonder how many marriages have ended up in divorce because of this.. how many young ones rush into marriage without really considering the commitment they are taking simply because they want to have sex, i am not saying this is always the case but we all know how strong hormones can be, and given the standpoint on divorce in the organization i wonder if given the chance to have sex before marriage wether or not this would lesson the divorce rate which i might add before i left the dubs was rising even in the organization.
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Scully
Dear JT:
As a maternal-newborn care nurse, I know exactly what you mean about the "Trophy Room". And, I agree, ideally abstinence is the ideal.
Having said that, almost every single day I go to work, I'm faced with the fact that life is not always about dealing in the realm of ideals. I've worked with barely 13 year old mothers, little girls themselves, who are no more capable of looking after a baby than they are of looking after themselves.
JW kids are not the only kids who "don't have a life". The majority of teen mothers I see are from disadvantaged and usually dysfunctional homes, where as much as the parent(s) - usually a single mother herself - wants better for her daughter, the sad reality is there's barely enough money for rent and food, so extracurricular activities are not just a luxury, but almost an impossible dream.
I'm not saying that young people should be allowed to have sex whenever they want with whomever they want, without regard for the consequences, not at all. I will clarify and say that pre-marital sex for a responsible couple in a committed relationship should be their business, and not the business of 12 old farts in Brooklyn, NY. Kids need to have their parents around for them. Kids need to know that their parents are "there" for them. The ones I see who get themselves "in trouble" are usually unsupervised for long periods of time, or whose parents seldom know, and maybe aren't concerned, about their child's whereabouts or goings-on. And when the easements of nature hit the fan, the parents are outraged and shocked: "How could this have happened to MY kid??"
My own kids are nowhere near ready for the responsibility of parenthood, and I've got my son (almost 16) so paranoid about how much it's going to cost HIM if he ends up fathering a child, he's not going there for a while. I've also recommended to my supervisor at work to have teens perform some community service hours (my son's school requires 40 hours) in our hospital's nursery at night. I swear, it might be the best deterrent for teen pregnancies ever.
Love, Scully
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Fornication Vs Divorce
by chezza inhi all,.
i was reading another post earlier about wether or not to let your children bf gf sleep over and brought something to mind that i have given a great deal of thought too.
we all know very well the stand the witnesses take on no sex before marriage, and i wonder how many marriages have ended up in divorce because of this.. how many young ones rush into marriage without really considering the commitment they are taking simply because they want to have sex, i am not saying this is always the case but we all know how strong hormones can be, and given the standpoint on divorce in the organization i wonder if given the chance to have sex before marriage wether or not this would lesson the divorce rate which i might add before i left the dubs was rising even in the organization.
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Scully
I completely agree with your point of view chezza. Forbidding pre-marital sex results in people getting married because they are "inflamed with passion" not necessarily because they've decided it's time to find someone to spend the rest of their life with. How often have JW couples married and then realized that they are totally incompatible for one another? How often do they bring children into the equation because they think that will help bond them together better??
If the WTS did away with the archaic moral standards, and made abstinence prior to marriage an optional thing, you'd find people would wait longer before getting married, and the ones who did marry would have a better idea of their compatibility as mates, and would likely result in stronger, more respectful marriages that last a lot longer because they want to be together, not because they have to stay together so as not to "bring reproach" on the congregation.
Just my 2 cents' worth
Love, Scully
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For IslandWoman... about my Website
by Tallyman inthought i'd start a new thread, since this was buried in another thread.
off topic to what you speak of, islandwoman, and i do want to respond to you.
since i think the topic important.. hi tallyman,.
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Scully
Tallyman:
I have some interesting "Schtuff" to send you on the topic of "Group Evil". I think you'll like it! I'll type it up over the weekend and send it to you.
Love, Scully