an example on how the wt gets things out of proportion.
this is all we know about dinah's "friends" from the bible: .
"and dinah the daughter of leah, which she bare unto jacob, went out to see the daughters of the land" (ge 34:1).. wt conclusion: .
The other point of the story is "Jehovah (or people who believe they represent him) will F*CK YOU UP if you piss them off."
They will make up lies about you. They will terrorize you. They will cut you. They will kill you - figuratively speaking - and get everyone you love to regard you as dead to them. Then they will say it was your choice, and you knew the consequences.
jws are in need of more kingdom halls in many major u.s. cities.
at this years agm where it is expected that most of the faithful will be able to listen to the meeting (being tied in by video), dont be surprised if the wts 8 gb members take part in a symposium delivering some long winded appeal, petition, plea, proposal, proposition, solicitation or otherwise hit-on the masses for $$$ in order to lighten the burden and overuse that many kingdom halls are experiencing.
an acquaintance from the west coast mentioned to me that in late august thru early september of this year that a number of pow-wows involving close to 5,000 elders from numerous areas (riverside, los angeles, ventura and orange counties) took place to drum up financial support from the 800+ (not sure) congregations in those areas.
I suppose it could be "code" for "We are in need of your money to bulk up our Pedophile Defense Fund ASAP if not sooner."
an example on how the wt gets things out of proportion.
this is all we know about dinah's "friends" from the bible: .
"and dinah the daughter of leah, which she bare unto jacob, went out to see the daughters of the land" (ge 34:1).. wt conclusion: .
There is a book/novel called The Red Tent by Anita Diamant that takes an entirely different perspective of the story of Dinah. In fact, she tells the story from Dinah's perspective - where her relationship with Shechem was actually a love match, and her family was so outraged that she wanted to marry outside her own tribe that they conspired to commit genocide against Shechem's family.
It was actually a really interesting read, and gave me something to think about - after all the Bible is a book written by men, for men, where women were second class citizens - it made me realize that surely the women had a point of view, and likely one that differed greatly from the men's perspective.
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really is a good listen, some members here called in, a big "hello" to you guys xxx.
http://blogtalk.vo.llnwd.net/o23/show/5/382/show_5382613.mp3.
It was actually rather disturbing how that came so easily after almost 20 years of not doing it.
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really is a good listen, some members here called in, a big "hello" to you guys xxx.
http://blogtalk.vo.llnwd.net/o23/show/5/382/show_5382613.mp3.
No, I was the one who did the "role play" of going Door-to-Door™ with the host.
(1) did it cause you to leave sooner than you might have, otherwise.. (2) it didn't bother you enough to do anything about it.
hey, we are all imperfect.. (3) did you want to prove you were better than they, and nothing they could do or say, was going to stumble you.. (4) they stumbled me, probably as much i stumbled them.
we all know it's an old boy's club and we are not going to tell on each other.. loislane.
Hypocrisy never sits well with me. We were raised to cherish honesty as one of the highest values, and when someone is being hypocritical it demonstrates a deeply self-deluded state, in thinking that it's perfectly fine for them to behave in a manner that they tell everyone else would be wrong, and actually shows how poorly they regard others in believing that other people are too stupid to see through their crap.
It didn't bother me so much when JWs outside my family behaved that way, because I didn't know what went on in their private lives really, but when my dad would drag my mom, siblings and I up on the platform and demonstrate how a Family Study™ was supposed to be conducted, I'd be livid with him for weeks afterward, because we never actually *had* a Family Study™ as a matter of routine. I hated being forced to pretend we were something we were not. It felt like I was lying in Jehovah's house, and like Achan or Ananias and Sapphira, we'd be found out as pretenders and swiftly be brought to divine justice.
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really is a good listen, some members here called in, a big "hello" to you guys xxx.
http://blogtalk.vo.llnwd.net/o23/show/5/382/show_5382613.mp3.
I left a lot of details out of my experience, for the sake of brevity, but I quite enjoyed talking with the host. I'd been corresponding with him recently and sending him little tidbits here and there, like the shunning video that cedars posted, and a PDF of the Learn from the Great Teacher book, because he really has an issue with the indoctrination of children.
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really is a good listen, some members here called in, a big "hello" to you guys xxx.
http://blogtalk.vo.llnwd.net/o23/show/5/382/show_5382613.mp3.
It was great - kind of fun being on the air too. ;)
up to about 5 minutes ago... i still had the notion that maybe jw's predicted something and got it right... that the league of nations was going to rise and become the united nations.
i think that jw prophecies/predictions are like a shotgun: shoots many projectiles, one of them has got to hit.
you cannot predict 5 different things and then, when one of them gets partly fulfilled, drop the other 4.5 things, change the 1/2 thing you predicted that was right and make it seem like that was the only thing you predicted, and make the entire one point fit after the fact.. reading watchtower literature throughout the years (1879 till now), and then coming here and getting awesome explanations from people like leolaia and other researchers, i finally understand the claim that most apostate websites make: the wt has a 100% prediction failure rate.. they were lucky that something big happened in 1914... but now i am much wiser and i know that everything they predicted for 1914 did not turn out as they predicted... 1914 has been a date with many different hats... from the start of armageddon, to the beginning of the last days... etc.... thank you very much jwn for completely opening my mind.
The only thing the WTS ever got right was when Rutherford said "Religion is a snare and a racket."
the thinking atheist will be doing a podcast on jws tomorrow.. .
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/thethinkingatheist/2013/09/17/the-jehovahs-witnesses.
they will be taking calls and emails if anyone has anything to say..
I was near the end of the podcast with about 20 minutes remaining.
