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  Those darned apostates

  by berrygerry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  july 15, 1992 wt.

  "apostates capitalize on errors or seeming mistakes made by brothers who take the lead.

  our safety lies in avoiding apostate propaganda as though it were poison, which in fact it is.".

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  Scully

  Original quote:

  "Apostates capitalize on errors or seeming mistakes made by brothers who take the lead. Our safety lies in avoiding apostate propaganda as though it were poison, which in fact it is."

  Now, let's tweak it a bit:

  "Jehovah's Witnesses capitalize on errors or seeming mistakes made by theologians and priests who take the lead. Our safety lies in avoiding Jehovah's Witness propaganda as though it were poison, which in fact it is."

  When you look at it through a different lens, you know that the JWs would take such a statement by the Catholic Church as Persecution™, when, in fact, it is merely legitimate criticism. The WTS has no qualms about criticizing other faiths, and it shouldn't expect a pass when their own errors or mistakes are exposed. It's not propaganda. It's not Persecution™. It's legitimate criticism as well as exposing errors, lies and confabulations. Any belief system that holds itself up as the sole source of The Truth™ should welcome the opportunity to correct any errors rather than attack the exposure of errors as forming part of an Apostate™ agenda.
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  this scared the heck out of me

  by Curious Kitten in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  has anyone ever read this book ???

  jehovah is mentioned at the very bottom supposedly he is a reptilian god (demon) that resides on jupiter ?

  wth.

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  Scully

  Oh boy. David Icke has to be one of the biggest nutjobs on the planet. Right up there with Georgio of Ancient Aliens ilk.

  I would read/watch these guys solely for entertainment purposes, because that's about all they're good for... a laugh.
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  IMPORTANT NEWS: ABC News' Nightline will air a segment about the Watchtower (JWs) Wednesday morning at 12:35 a.m. EST

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  important news:.

  here in the united states, on wednesday morning, march 11th at 12:35 a.m., est, barring any breaking news the day before, the program, nightline, will air as their lead story a 9-minute segment about the watchtower (jehovah's witnesses).

  the program is 30 minutes long and this segment is only one part of the show.

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  Thanks violias. I'll check my local listings and set my PVR accordingly.
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  IMPORTANT NEWS: ABC News' Nightline will air a segment about the Watchtower (JWs) Wednesday morning at 12:35 a.m. EST

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  important news:.

  here in the united states, on wednesday morning, march 11th at 12:35 a.m., est, barring any breaking news the day before, the program, nightline, will air as their lead story a 9-minute segment about the watchtower (jehovah's witnesses).

  the program is 30 minutes long and this segment is only one part of the show.

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  Barb,

  Would you kindly clarify regarding the time, since most of North America switched to Daylight Savings Time this Sunday just past, and you posted the time as Standard Time.

  I don't want to miss the broadcast, and I'm sure nobody else wants to miss it either.
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  WTBS Canada received almost $9 million from cong. donations in 2013

  by Richard_I in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  just saw this on the ex-jw subreddit.

  on opencharity.ca, you can view wtbs canada's financial info and in 2013 they received almost $9 million in donations.

  you can even see how much some congregations gave.

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  WTF!

  united way of greater Toronto gave the branch $14909 last year?

  When I was employed at an organization that participated in the United Way's donation campaigns, I was given a form that allowed me to identify a charitable organization of my choosing to which my donations would be directed - any Canadian charitable organization qualified.

  Funny how the WTS has no qualms about taking money from an organization like United Way. They certainly discourage JWs from donating to them. I suppose they object to these organizations taking a cut toward administration of the funds before it gets to them.
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  Top 10 Memorial Excuses

  by rebel8 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  good excuses.

  pinkeye.

  (highly contagious, and you aren't supposed to touch other people's dishes and glasses.)tuberculosis.

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  Measles. You/your kid caught it from the anti-vaxxer's kid next door.
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  New "donation" arrangement begins to FAIL

  by Tech49 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so here we are, almost a year into the "new" congregation donation arrangement.

  and its beginning, as was predicted, to fail miserably, and to have direct negative consequences on the poor sheep.. let me give you a little experience, directly from our congregation of about 80 publishers.

  back in may, after reading the letter about the "new" arrangement, the elder body decided to "donate" the extra funds on hand to wt, as directed.

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  THE BEATINGS WILL CONTINUE UNTIL MORALE IMPROVES.
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  Freudian slip in this weeks WT study!

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  oh....ok....hahaha...did anyone else pick up on this classic stuff up in the wt for the weekend of 21/22 feb?.

  after speaking about the destruction of sodom and gomorrah, paragraph 6 says:.

  "only lot and his daughters, who stuck close to him, survived".

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  This was the same guy that offered his daughters to a pack of sex-mad people lurking outside his house to do with as they pleased.

  Why wouldn't he have sex with them himself?
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  why when a person is dis fellowship the elders and others act like all hope is gone and refuse help that person come back to God's Word

  by ray83 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i been married to my husband for almost 9 years.

  he's been a witness his whole life but got disfellowship a little over 15 years ago.

  before his dis fellowshiping he was very active.

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  Scully

  Most of us would agree that Disfellowshipping™ is an overly harsh punishment.

  Even when a criminal is in jail, segregated from the rest of society, the government allows for that person to receive training to allow them the opportunity to return to some kind of normal life when they are released or paroled. When paroled, the person has a support system - he has to check in with his parole officer, he has to report to work, and abide by conditions placed upon him (no drugs, alcohol or weapons, and no contact with former associates). It isn't always successful, but for the person who really wants to reform and change his life for the better, this structure can be helpful.

  Being DFd is more like being stuck out in the middle of the ocean without even water wings, and being told they have to swim to shore, through storms, frigid water, and constant struggling. The Elders™ are waiting on shore to make sure that the person dog paddles only - no breast stroke, no butterfly stroke, just dog paddle. The family and friends they had can't help them - they have to wait for the Elders'™ approval of the way they dog paddle to shore. Some people don't make it. They get taken by storms. Some just give up. And some come across kindly strangers who are willing to give them the help they need, that the Elders™ won't allow them to have. People with boats and life preservers and floatation devices, that give them hope and show them that life doesn't have to be like this, there are other options.
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  What comforts you when you no longer believe in a ressurrection ?

  by EdenOne in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  our family just lost someone dear and very close, a faithful jw.

  as we went through the entire funeral services and meeting long time brothers and sisters, who in general have been very kind and warm towards us, we realize that the hope of resurrection is a meaningless utopia for us, like a fairytale for little children.

  we don't have faith in it anymore, and serves us of no comfort.

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  The thought of a future Resurrection™ can delay the normal grieving process. The WTS uses phrases like "asleep in death" to minimize the reality and finality of death and capitalize on their Resurrection™ doctrine. It keeps so many people entrenched in the belief system: they feel they have to remain faithful in order to realize that promise of seeing loved ones again. They use it as a stick to keep people in line: "What will we tell your grandma and grandpa when they are Resurrected™ in the Paradise™ and you aren't there?"

  When I finally let go of the idea of Resurrection™, long-shelved grief over the loss of my grandparents and parents-in-law was overwhelming. I'd never cried over their deaths before then, because they were simply "asleep" until Jehovah's Time™ to bring them back to us. I was angry over the lie plus grief-stricken, and it hit me HARD.

  As a measure of comfort, I planted a memory garden - a different rose for each loved one who has died. It's a lovely place to meditate and remember these special people.