Posts by Scully

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All Gays Are Perverts

by Coded Logic in

"scientists may never resolve exactly how much of a role nature and nurturing play in same-sex attraction.

but one thing is clear: all humans are born with the tendency to succumb to wrong thinking and inclinations.

--romans 3:23. a youth who desires to please god must therefore conform to his moral standards and shun immoral behavior, though doing so may be agonizingly difficult.

I don't know of any straight people who have left the organization due to religion's view on the gay issue since most people do not leave the religion unless it is something that effects them personally.

To be fair, the WTS's position on homosexuality was not the only thing that caused me to leave the JWs, but I had a problem with their position and it was among many other things that, in their totality, made me realize the WTS was full of crap.

I'd watched a documentary that claimed that there were differences in brain structure between straight males and gay males. It made me start wondering, What if being gay is not a choice? I started asking JW family members about scenarios such as What if a person believes that they are gay, that they've always felt attraction to people of the same sex, and that they were born that way, the same way people are born with a certain eye colour? If they chose to live a life of abstinence in order to remain faithful to Biblical commands, would they be allowed to Pioneer™ or have other Privileges™ in the Congregation™? More often than not, the answer was NO. They rationalized that merely believing that they were born gay was wrong, and they had to live the life of a straight person (get married, procreate) in order to "prove" they were living in harmony with the Bible.

It started me thinking that it was so wrong to compel someone to live in a way that was repugnant to them, to live a lie and to intentionally bring others into that fraudulent life. I couldn't, for the life of me, reconcile that with a god of love, or even imagine that a loving god would expect that of someone. Even the Apostle Paul recommended singleness as a way of life, but why force someone to marry in order to prove that they've 'overcome' their sexuality, when it is how they are born rather than simply a choice? Do we ask people to change the colour of their eyes or skin? Or change their height? It made me very angry to imagine a life like that.

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Those darned apostates

by berrygerry in

july 15, 1992 wt.

"apostates capitalize on errors or seeming mistakes made by brothers who take the lead.

our safety lies in avoiding apostate propaganda as though it were poison, which in fact it is.".

Scully

Original quote:

"Apostates capitalize on errors or seeming mistakes made by brothers who take the lead. Our safety lies in avoiding apostate propaganda as though it were poison, which in fact it is."

Now, let's tweak it a bit:

"Jehovah's Witnesses capitalize on errors or seeming mistakes made by theologians and priests who take the lead. Our safety lies in avoiding Jehovah's Witness propaganda as though it were poison, which in fact it is."

When you look at it through a different lens, you know that the JWs would take such a statement by the Catholic Church as Persecution™, when, in fact, it is merely legitimate criticism. The WTS has no qualms about criticizing other faiths, and it shouldn't expect a pass when their own errors or mistakes are exposed. It's not propaganda. It's not Persecution™. It's legitimate criticism as well as exposing errors, lies and confabulations. Any belief system that holds itself up as the sole source of The Truth™ should welcome the opportunity to correct any errors rather than attack the exposure of errors as forming part of an Apostate™ agenda.

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this scared the heck out of me

by Curious Kitten in

has anyone ever read this book ???

jehovah is mentioned at the very bottom supposedly he is a reptilian god (demon) that resides on jupiter ?

wth.

Scully

Oh boy. David Icke has to be one of the biggest nutjobs on the planet. Right up there with Georgio of Ancient Aliens ilk.

I would read/watch these guys solely for entertainment purposes, because that's about all they're good for... a laugh.

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IMPORTANT NEWS: ABC News' Nightline will air a segment about the Watchtower (JWs) Wednesday morning at 12:35 a.m. EST

by AndersonsInfo in

important news:.

here in the united states, on wednesday morning, march 11th at 12:35 a.m., est, barring any breaking news the day before, the program, nightline, will air as their lead story a 9-minute segment about the watchtower (jehovah's witnesses).

the program is 30 minutes long and this segment is only one part of the show.

Scully

Thanks violias. I'll check my local listings and set my PVR accordingly.

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IMPORTANT NEWS: ABC News' Nightline will air a segment about the Watchtower (JWs) Wednesday morning at 12:35 a.m. EST

by AndersonsInfo in

important news:.

here in the united states, on wednesday morning, march 11th at 12:35 a.m., est, barring any breaking news the day before, the program, nightline, will air as their lead story a 9-minute segment about the watchtower (jehovah's witnesses).

the program is 30 minutes long and this segment is only one part of the show.

Scully

Barb,

Would you kindly clarify regarding the time, since most of North America switched to Daylight Savings Time this Sunday just past, and you posted the time as Standard Time.

I don't want to miss the broadcast, and I'm sure nobody else wants to miss it either.

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WTBS Canada received almost $9 million from cong. donations in 2013

by Richard_I in

jw
friends

just saw this on the ex-jw subreddit.

on opencharity.ca, you can view wtbs canada's financial info and in 2013 they received almost $9 million in donations.

you can even see how much some congregations gave.

Scully

WTF!

united way of greater Toronto gave the branch $14909 last year?

When I was employed at an organization that participated in the United Way's donation campaigns, I was given a form that allowed me to identify a charitable organization of my choosing to which my donations would be directed - any Canadian charitable organization qualified.

Funny how the WTS has no qualms about taking money from an organization like United Way. They certainly discourage JWs from donating to them. I suppose they object to these organizations taking a cut toward administration of the funds before it gets to them.

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Top 10 Memorial Excuses

by rebel8 in

jw
friends

good excuses.

pinkeye.

(highly contagious, and you aren't supposed to touch other people's dishes and glasses.)tuberculosis.

Scully

Measles. You/your kid caught it from the anti-vaxxer's kid next door.

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New "donation" arrangement begins to FAIL

by Tech49 in

jw
friends

so here we are, almost a year into the "new" congregation donation arrangement.

and its beginning, as was predicted, to fail miserably, and to have direct negative consequences on the poor sheep.. let me give you a little experience, directly from our congregation of about 80 publishers.

back in may, after reading the letter about the "new" arrangement, the elder body decided to "donate" the extra funds on hand to wt, as directed.

Scully

THE BEATINGS WILL CONTINUE UNTIL MORALE IMPROVES.

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Freudian slip in this weeks WT study!

by stuckinarut2 in

oh....ok....hahaha...did anyone else pick up on this classic stuff up in the wt for the weekend of 21/22 feb?.

after speaking about the destruction of sodom and gomorrah, paragraph 6 says:.

"only lot and his daughters, who stuck close to him, survived".

Scully

This was the same guy that offered his daughters to a pack of sex-mad people lurking outside his house to do with as they pleased.

Why wouldn't he have sex with them himself?

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why when a person is dis fellowship the elders and others act like all hope is gone and refuse help that person come back to God's Word

by ray83 in

i been married to my husband for almost 9 years.

he's been a witness his whole life but got disfellowship a little over 15 years ago.

before his dis fellowshiping he was very active.

Scully

Most of us would agree that Disfellowshipping™ is an overly harsh punishment.

Even when a criminal is in jail, segregated from the rest of society, the government allows for that person to receive training to allow them the opportunity to return to some kind of normal life when they are released or paroled. When paroled, the person has a support system - he has to check in with his parole officer, he has to report to work, and abide by conditions placed upon him (no drugs, alcohol or weapons, and no contact with former associates). It isn't always successful, but for the person who really wants to reform and change his life for the better, this structure can be helpful.

Being DFd is more like being stuck out in the middle of the ocean without even water wings, and being told they have to swim to shore, through storms, frigid water, and constant struggling. The Elders™ are waiting on shore to make sure that the person dog paddles only - no breast stroke, no butterfly stroke, just dog paddle. The family and friends they had can't help them - they have to wait for the Elders'™ approval of the way they dog paddle to shore. Some people don't make it. They get taken by storms. Some just give up. And some come across kindly strangers who are willing to give them the help they need, that the Elders™ won't allow them to have. People with boats and life preservers and floatation devices, that give them hope and show them that life doesn't have to be like this, there are other options.