They may as well accept those benefits, because there aren't any JWs who are going to support them that way!
Posts by Scully
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23Should a JW accept Veteran payments?
by Tantalon inhello people,.
i was born in but long time faded.
i think i hold current jws to a higher standard than they now maintain.. here's the thing; my father is very old, in his nineties and been a jdub for over 60 years and even made it to elder till he got too old.on a recent visit my siblings and dad were saying how wonderful that veterans affairs were.
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Why does this forum tolerate Cold steele and his mormonism beliefs ? Who`s next ?
by smiddy ini thought this forum was for people who were ex jw`s and pro jw`s and the like to debate ,discuss and reasonably talk about our differences ,and sometimes drift off into politics world events and whatever.. however over a period of time i have come across cold steel `s many posts which are nothing more than promoting his mormon religions point of view./beliefs what has that got to do with jehovahs witnesses and the concerns many have with the jw religion.?.
it seems to me he is using this forum to promote his religion and is getting away with it over a long period of time.. how long before other cult religions see this as a springboard for promoting their own religion such as .
sda`s ,christian scientists , christadelphians ,beroean bible students ,etc.etc.. where will it end if he is able to keep doing this ?.
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Scully
Here's the thing: people like Cold Steel get off on the reaction they produce. If they get a reaction, they'll come back for more. If they don't get a reaction, they move on.
You may have just given him the biggest ego boost ever.
DON'T FEED THE TROLLS.
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I am back... after 8 years.
by Preston init's been 8 years, but i am back.
my health has returned.
what did i miss?.
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Scully
Hey Preston!
Missed you, buddy! I was actually wondering what happened to you just a few days ago...
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Scully
It's the same reason why Hitler had the SS.
So they could do as he "implied" and then when the $h!t hit the fan and they were held to account, he could say he didn't really mean it literally, and then his minions would be responsible for those war crimes.
It's a strategy that doesn't really work in the justice system.
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JW Wife not listening
by rathernotsay inhey guys, looking for some advice with what to do with my jw wife that is simply ignoring my wishes/demands.
first a little back story, we have been married for 6 years and have 3 children together.
she is a jw, and i am not (nor do i have any religious beliefs).
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I've just read through some of your previous posts, and I'm truly sorry to learn about the rough patches you've been through.
It seems to me that your wife is trying very hard to (a) redeem herself for her previous lapses in judgement and (b) distinguish herself among her JW peers as someone who embraces The Truth™ completely to the point where other priorities take a back seat (you, your marriage, your children, working toward financial stability with you, your children's education, and so on). Understand that (b) is considered highly virtuous among JWs. It is also a sign (to me, at least) that she feels some unworthiness in herself among her JW peers - it's not uncommon for a person who has strayed from their marriage to Show Works Befitting Repentance™ (such as Pioneering™) to demonstrate that they've changed from their previous lapse in judgement.
As a teenager, I did some things during a Rebellious Phase™ that JWs weren't supposed to do, but once I started being ostracized by JWs (both at the KH and socially, including my mother), it triggered a high energy zeal for The Truth™ - wanting to go to all the Meetings™, isolating myself from Worldly™ peers, and wanting to get Baptized™ and Pioneer™. In retrospect, I can see the manipulation for what it was, and I was grateful that my application to Pioneer™ was rejected by the Elders™ at the time.
Given your circumstances, you could ring up an Elder™ and say that while you support her going to Meetings™ and in the Door-to-Door Ministry™, you need to draw the line on Pioneering™, as your children need her, and if she has that much spare time on her hands, you would appreciate it if she had a part-time job to help with the finances of the home. That's not to say you wouldn't reconsider once your youngest child is in school full days, but for now, you're asserting your Headship™ and asking her to prioritize the children's needs and the family's needs over Full-Time Service™. Tell her that you need to sit down with her and Count The Cost™ of Pioneering™ (none of this Jehovah Will Provide™ nonsense!!) - will she need her own vehicle? How will she pay for one? Surely she shouldn't expect you to take on the cost! Will she pay for the insurance and fuel and repairs? What about the child care arrangements - you have one that isn't yet old enough for school, so is she planning to take the baby with her or find child care for her? (Newsflash: JWs don't really like it when Sisters™ take their children along in Service™ - I tried more than a few times to do so, but I was basically shunned and not included in any car group - even when I offered to use our vehicle.) How do you feel about the children going Door-to-Door™ with her during the off-school times (weekends, school holidays, etc.)? Surely your feelings count for something!
If you deal with the Elders™ with this kind of approach, there's no way they would give her permission to Pioneer™. You have every right to assert yourself in this situation. Be careful not to overdo it, though, because the Elders™ could tell her that you are bad for her Spirituality™ or be the cause of Absolute Spiritual Endangerment™, which would give her the green light to leave you and take the children too. (Note that there is no Biblical basis for this belief.)
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JW Wife not listening
by rathernotsay inhey guys, looking for some advice with what to do with my jw wife that is simply ignoring my wishes/demands.
first a little back story, we have been married for 6 years and have 3 children together.
she is a jw, and i am not (nor do i have any religious beliefs).
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Well, how about a compromise?
Tell her that maybe she could find a part-time job to help support her desire to Pioneer™. Maybe suggest at first that she try Auxiliary Pioneering™ (which has about half the time commitment as a full-time Pioneer™)
You haven't said how old your children are, and whether her JW activities would potentially impact her obligations to them. If it's her taking the children to school, making their lunches and picking them up after school, and helping them with homework, then I'd say to her to go slow.
Understand that within JW culture being a Pioneer™ is a status symbol, and perhaps this is her way of off-setting any disdain or feelings that she is an outsider that she is experiencing by virtue of the fact that she has an Unbelieving™ husband.
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And the dumbing down continues...
by NikL inmaybe it's complete in light of this sundays wt study...“what you vow, pay”.
it is all about paying your vows and especially focuses on three types.. 1 your dedication vow (baptism).
2 your marriage vow.
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One thing I know is that I *NEVER* dedicated myself to an organization that claims to represent god.
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Tattoos In the Kingdom?
by Cold Steel inwith tattoos becoming ever more popular in today's culture, i couldn't help but wonder what happens when people with ostentatious tattoos seek baptism?
are they admitted?
many don't have the money to have them removed, yet i can't imagine they'd be allowed to do pioneer work.
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Scully
I think the only permissible tattoo in JW land might look like this:
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What is your understanding of the terms "Ransom" and "Redeem"?
by Doug Mason inwith respect to christ being the "redeemer" and of having "paid the ransom", i would like to know:.
(1) what is your technical understanding of each term?.
(2) what is the watchtower's understanding of each term?.
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Scully
Ransom: money that is paid in order to free someone who has been captured or kidnapped
Redeem: to buy or pay off; clear by payment
I'd never thought of the Biblical usage of those words in terms of me being held in captivity against my will, and needing someone to pay for my freedom, but now, that all seems pretty creepy.
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RUMOUR - Regarding future memorials
by Listener ini heard this on the youtube channel - bad jw round table discussions and i normally don't give much thought to rumours, i did find this one interesting.one of the guys on the channel said that there are plans that 'the other sheep' will be told not to attend any future memorials.he was asked how credible was this and he said that it is talk going around by those in the know, just like there had been those that knew about the fairly recent new edition of the bible being in production.even if this is probably just a rumour, the idea has a lot of merit.
the benefits for the organization outweigh the negatives and would fit in with their current direction.here are some of the benefits, for the org.
that could come from it- the biggest benefit would come from not having to accommodate so many attendants, which are more than double a normal meeting.
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Scully
Another "positive" if this is actually true: Watchtower has taken away the only "holiday" JWs were ever permitted to observe/celebrate.
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