Posts by jwundubbed

i was fading for the longest time, refused to go out in field service, dropped out of the ministry school talks, no longer answered at the watchtower study, arrived at the meetings the last second, and left as soon as possible.

i couldn't take attending the meetings any longer.

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I've been POMO for about 20 years. But I stayed with my mom who is still in just before going back to college in 2011. I went to meetings with her because that was the unsaid price of staying with her but also because it was good for me to know that I could do it. I went for several weeks while I stayed with my mother and I think it is also good to know that muscle memory and nostalgia can be dangerous for us corrupted folk. It was so easy to get back into the routine that I grew up with. While I could hear every ounce of BS and see all the behaviors for what they were, it would still be really easy to fall back into the patterns I learned in my formative years. Before that, I had thought that I might be able to be casual about it like you can be with other religions. But no, it is definitely something to stay away from. That was really good to know.

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Profanity on Surrey Kingdom Hall

by lssjr in

if it is a non-jw who did this as a result of their pandemic campaign (letter-writing and telephone calls), jehovah’s witnesses really need to check themselves.

they have been directed by their new york headquarters (since last year shortly after the start of the pandemic) to send letters to only people they know.

people don’t like receiving unwanted, unrequested, unsolicited letters and phone calls, especially from jehovah’s witnesses.. if it is a former member who received a letter as a result letter-writing pandemic campaign- most former members do not like being harassed by active jehovah’s witnesses and have been directed by their new york headquarters to send letters to and call only people they know.. .

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It is definitelty criminal vandalism. It isn't Grafitti, which is an artform and in which the artists either tag their work or use distinctive style. There is clearly no style and the person doesn't want to be known by their work.

But... I didn't know that JWs are only allowed to call and write to people they know. Most JWs aren't supposed to know non-JWs well enough to know their phone numbers and addresses. So, does that mean they are just calling on each other? If I were still in, I would probably call and write to every witness I knew every week and count the time since that is what they are being instructed to do. But you can't grow numbers by advertising to yourselves. Could COVID be how the organization goes down? If they are only witnessing to people they know, then they won't grow. If they are only witnessing to each other, then they will annoy the crap out of themselves. That would be hilarious if that was what it took to bring down the org.

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Changed From "Disfellowshipped" to "No Longer One of Jehovah's Witnesses!

by Atlantis in

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friends

a friend is trying to figure out the approximate date or letter, which indicated a change from the wording of public announcements.. they changed from saying the person has been disfellowshipped to saying that a person was no longer one of jehovah's witnesses.. i thought it was around the time of the bulgaria scandal.. could you help us out to remember when this change took place?

if we could remember the approximate year, we could look up all the boe's for that year and might find the letter.. many thanks!.

atlantis!.

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I remember hearing the 'no longer a jw' from the platform in 1993. I remember being confused and having my family explain what that meant.

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What is your most favorite politically incorrect film

by mickbobcat in

since all the leftist idiots are trying to cancel films they don't like i am buying some dvds of my fav.

pi films.

my favorite top pick is animal house.

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I second Idiocracy.

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Interesting place for a KH. My thoughts

by joe134cd in

yesterday i happened to be driving through a rural town where i made an observation.

first let me describe this town.

it’s almost a shadow of its former self.

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It’s almost a shadow of its former self. I guess this would be a result of urban shift. It is poor, with mainly an indigenous population. Massive problems with the cultivation, manufacture, and usage of drugs. Apart from a grocery store, petrol station and a pub there is absolutely nothing to do. This could be one of the reasons for the high consumption of drugs and birth rate. There has also been issues with gangs.

You got all that just from driving through the town??? I find that difficult to believe.

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What to say? Death of an adult child.

by jwundubbed in

my father married b when both her children and his children were grown adults.

b had two children, a son d and a daughter m. my sister db, my brother rh, and myself got along well with m but not at all with d, who was a very christian person but not a jw.

my siblings and i do not have much to do with our stepmother though we are civil and we don't have any hard feelings between us.

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I sent a card. I told them that I was so sorry for their loss. There wasn't anything else to say that would be genuine so I found a poem by Edgar Allen Poe that seemed to fit well.

Thank you all so much for sharing your experiences and offering advice. It really has helped me a lot and I will probably come back to this thread again in the future. There is so much good information about what to do and what not to do in a really difficult human situation.

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Buy a Bible

by joey jojo in

this is probably an oldie.

buy a bible, never read it- you're probably a catholic.

buy a bible, read only the parts you find interesting - you're probably an evangelist.

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Buy a white bible and underline all the racy parts in red - I don't know what that says about me but I thought it was hilarious at the time.

Buy a bible in a different language because it is a cheap way to get a whole book in a different language - you are probably a poor student.

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How Many Masks Will You Wear?

by minimus in

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friends

there are recommendations that we should start doubling up on masks.

some have even suggested that tripling masks would even be better!

what’s your opinion of wearing numerous masks?

jwundubbed

I have what is called MCS or Multiple Chemical Sensitivity. Basically, I'm allergic to most pollutants in the air. I'm allergic to most types of smoke, but particularly all the cigarettes, e-cigs, vapes, and pot smokes and I'm most allergic to wood burn. This has been a tough year, having lived in Denver during one of the worst burn seasons on record. I have had this for decades. I have a mask that has a filter that works with chemicals which are smaller than particles. It is a stronger filter than the N95. It is expensive. The mask is 75$ and the filters are 15$ each. The particulate filters are cheaper. All of those protect against Covid.

The medical masks and gaiters and bandanas that people wear will not protect them from Covid. Never have, never will. They will mitigate the risks nominally. Wearing multiples of these masks will do nothing more than wearing one will do. They will make it harder to breath and to be understood when talking.

What would actually do some good is if people would wash their hands with soap and water more often, whenever they have the chance of catching germs from transference. That means that if you touch a surface after someone with a contagion touches that surface and the contagion is still potentially alive. The chemical process of turning soap into bubbles actually destroys Covid. So, the best thing to do is wash your hands with soap and water after touching a surface that could carry a contagion. It really is that simple. And this has been the truth of it for centuries. It is nothing new. This is how contagions spread.

What wearing a mask in public does, is to encourage people to be considerate of others and to take precautions. When someone wears a mask you don't know if they are contagious and you are more likely to wash your hands after being near them and you are more likely to keep your distance from them. We have been conditioned for these behaviors for decades. So, again, it isn't anything new.

If everyone wears a mask, then people will take precautions around people they don't know, and who could be infectious. That is the most we need to do. Because Covid is a virus. It is the same as other viruses we have been around. We all learned how to live with HIV/Aids. We all learned how to live with other viruses. And we will learn to live with Covid.

Quite frankly, the US is way behind other countries when it comes to taking precautions against infections. You see it in TV shows and movies from other cultures. Because of this, people are being stupid. They are getting riled up with fear because they don't know what they should already know about sickness. Nothing we are learning right now is new. Not one bit of it. If you want to know what to do, educate yourself on what sickness is, how it works, and how to mitigate the risks. Stop acting like it is a conspiracy because you are being asked to do things you should have been doing anyway. And be smart enough to know when what you are being asked to do is stupid and being encouraged by morons. Yes, even governments can feed into fearmongering and get stupid.

Everything in moderation.