I'm driven by a desire to live a decent life. That does not include vengeance nor payback. But if it did, the best payback is living the best and healthiest and happiest life that I can.
jwundubbed
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Are you driven by vengeance or Payback?
by Fisherman in“there is nothing more ironic and curious than a trapper being caught in his own trap or a plot backfiring.
ironic justice is the best revenge.” the inventor of the brazen bull, one if the most heinous torture devices in history was tricked to go inside of it and died of the torture he created.. probably one of the greatest movies ever made features revenge as its theme: once upon a time in the west.
sadly in this movie the main character doesn’t rely on ironic justice happening by god or chance.
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How Many Of You Knew Something Was Really Wrong Growing Up JW? What was Your First Clue?
by Sea Breeze inthis is directed to born-ins.
around age 10 or 12 is when it first hit me.
i started asking questions about how the world worked and i really wanted an honest opinion from my parents.
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When I was five years old I asked how we know the bible isn't just a made up story like a fairy tale. I have never once gotten a straight answer from anyone I have asked.
National Geographic did a documentary on where the bible comes from... and it made a good argument for the possibility that it is all real. It also made good arguments for the idea that it was truly written a long time ago but could have been authored and written for the same reasons as folk tales.
Suffice it to say, religious leaders aren't very good at answering ridiculously obvious questions about their doctrine and where it comes from. That never ever sat well with me.
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Nonbelieving mates
by road to nowhere ina couple of my wife's friends are married to non witnesses.
they say jehovah must have special plans for them.
and that it is a special exception not destruction, alas, they are not attractive so my special idea about polygamy won't cut it.
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my question is....why do they do it? why marry a non-jw in the first place?
Why not marry a non-JW? Why would anyone marry a JW man? The available options were never very appealing. There were always 7 single women (minimum) to every single man in every congregation I was ever in, and the options ranged from stupid to uber misogynist. Most of the single guys were just jerks. The appeal of a non-JW is a plethora of options. Not just plentiful options but many many potential partners who aren't raging assholes. I knew from a very young age that there was something wrong with the single men of the JWs.
But also...someone mentioned that we all know what the JWs believe. Non-believers will parish in Armageddon. But I was always led to believe that one could make their final decision on what they believed during Armageddon. I never believed. It was my hope that God would show himself during Armageddon and give me a reason to believe, and thus allow me to be saved. So, it would make sense to me if many of those women believe that their husbands can be saved at the last moment.
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House-to-House Resumes Sep 1 2022
by Smiles inbreaking news | house-to-house preaching will resume on september 1, 2022. the governing body is pleased to announce that the house-to-house preaching work of jehovah’s witnesses will resume on september 1, 2022. we pray for jehovah’s rich blessing to be with all of you as we resume our house-to-house ministry!.
https://www.jw.org/en/news/jw/#newsalerts.
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I think they need to carry their vaccination cards as ID badges in order to go door to door. Now we can get mad at them for solicitation and for dangerous COVID practices. They need to have the most recent booster shots to come to my door.
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JW's are the SAME as other Christians....
by BoogerMan in...they condemn/attack those whose beliefs/opinions/interpretations of scriptures differ from theirs.. various scriptures reveal to christians that the judging of mankind will be done by christ jesus: .
john 5:22,28,29, acts 10:42, acts 17:31, romans 14:9, 2 cor.
5:10, 2 tim.
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JW's are the SAME as other Christians....
I think you may have missed the most important part that makes JWs different from every other Christian in the world. JWs are NOT Christians. They don't 'follow Christ'. They follow Jehovah. The basic definition that every Christian knows is that Christian = Follower of Christ. When you make the distinction that Christ is not God and therefore not the one to follow... you are not a Christian.
It is, to me, one of the greatest examples of cognitive dissonance that most JWs and ex-JWs are unaware of. If you follow Jehovah, then you are not following Christ and therefore you are NOT a Christian.
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I’m a current elder ex bethel in London
by Mikejw ini was in bethel for years early 2000s and was heavily involved with brd from start to finish .
im current elder in one of the congregations in london.
what i’ve noticed is huge changes since covid .
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I have never been DF nor DA. I faded... until someone in my family started a rumor and my entire family that is in has shunned me ever since. That was over 25 years ago. I would guess that people monitoring each other and shunning based on 'one's conscience' and rumors and gossip are still very much a part of the JWs even with COVID and Zoom meetings.
It was always easy to fade.... until someone took a persona interest and made it difficult and I am guessing that is still the case.
Oh, but welcome to the group!
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Do you think the Watchtower is right about about eternal punishment of the wicked?
by Vanderhoven7 inatheists believe death is the end of personal existence.
but for those who believe there is life after death, what do you think is the nature of final punishment?
in other words do you agree with the atheists and the watchtower society or is there eternal ongoing conscious punishment awaiting the wicked.
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But for those who believe there is life after death, what do you think is the nature of final punishment?
I believe that having to live in Eternity, even with a perfect body, with any Jehovah's Witness would be the final punishment. To be forced to live with all of them living and resurrected would actually be cruel and unusual punishment and an eternity of hell... on earth.
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Is burying someone on a golf course tacky?
by GabeAthouse intrump's first wife and mother of his children died recently.
they had her buried on his golf course.
do you think this is tacky or a savvy business move since it'll now get them some tax breaks as a cemetery?.
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In the United States, in most states you can bury people on private property if you get permission from your local county or city office first.
Personally, I think its fine if that is what the person would have wanted. I have no idea what the late Mrs. Ex-Trump would have wanted. I would hope that her family was doing this to respect her last wishes.
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Do you believe that this life is all there is
by Fisherman inthe bible records resurrections and there is orher evidence besides that gives hope.
what do you think, is there enough evidence to believe in another life?.
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I have struggled with Complex PTSD ever since I left the JWs. My greatest fear has always been that there is nothing after this life. I've made some breakthroughs along the way in dealing with my PTSD but that fear was always there.
Between February and May both of my living grandparents passed away. It is the first time that I lost people I was really close to. Other people in my family passed away but we were estranged for the obvious reason. What surprised me the most in my grandparents passing was that I'm not worried about where they went or if they went somewhere. I don't know where they went but I know in my heart that they are together somewhere.
When I left the JWs all my foundational beliefs just fell away. I was lost because I didn't know if there was anything to believe in. Almost immediately, through self reflection, I realized that I have my own truths. I never needed a religion to tell me right from wrong because I know in my heart and in my mind what is right and what is wrong. All I had to do was listen to my instincts. And they have never steered me wrong since I started listening to them. When I ask myself if there is a place after death, I don't know. But when I ask myself if I am worried about what happened to my grandparents I just 'know' that they are in a different place. I'm going to trust in that instinct and that knowledge because I believe it and because I have faith that is the truth.
Also... I have some science in my beliefs. Energy doesn't die, it just changes form. Our consciousness is energy making connections in our brains. That energy doesn't die, it just changes form. We don't have to know what that form is to know that this is a foundational scientific truth and to trust in that truth. If the energy changes form, then who we are exists in a different form.
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Jesus prophesied Global ''heat waves''
by RULES & REGULATIONS inhttps://www.jw.org/en/library/.
keep on the watch!.
record-breaking temperatures worldwide—what does the bible say?.
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I think aliens from outer space would be more aligned with 'fearful sights' and 'strange and terrifying things'. They had heat waves in ancient times. They had droughts. I mean, wasn't the whole wandering in the desert and needing manna poured down from heaven due to not being able to find ground food? Wouldn't that presume there hadn't been enough rain and maybe there was even a heat wave?
To be honest, the bible itself has much more 'fearful sights' and 'strange and terrifying things' than climate change... which is really hard to prove (no matter how much one might already believe in it.). I mean... I can make a list that fits that prophecy much more than climate change.
1. Manna raining from heaven.
2. Burning bush that talks as a messenger from God.
3. Angles in human form.
4. Human sacrifice.
5. Parting the sea.
6. Water turning to blood.
7. Flood killing all of humanity
8. Fitting pairs of every living creature into that tiny little boat called the Ark.
* 9. A virgin giving birth to a hybrid human/supernatural baby.
10. Turning a rod into a serpent and back again.
11. Insect plagues.
12. First born children dying but other children living. (That would have killed off one sibling, my father, my maternal uncle, my grandfather, and about 15 cousins in one fell swoop.)
13. People speaking in tongues.
14. Jericho falling because of sound waves.
15. Samson's strength is all in his hair???
16. Dinah has to marry her rapist and then her brothers kill everyone anyway. (as a woman that is terrifying.. and just awful).
17. Sodom and Gomorrah are fire-bombed from heaven.
18. Women mate with angels creating monsters/giants?
* 19. Dead coming back to life.
* 20. Walking on water.
21. People living through being burned alive, unscathed.
22. Handwriting appearing on walls.
23. Whale swallowing a man (this happened recently and was pretty creepy even though the whale spit him out)
* 24. Water turns into wine.
The ones with asterisks actually happened to or were caused by Jesus himself. So, if he said the things and sights were strange and terrifying and fearful, then shouldn't his prophecy mean things that are even more alarming than what we saw him do or go through?
I'm sorry but climate change pales by comparison because the application is just experiencing the weather... been there done that. The scale may be new, but the sight isn't strange or terrifying, just new.