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  Garden of Eden

  by Onager in

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  where is the garden of eden?.

  i don't mean where in the world, i mean where in history.

  adam and eve get booted out of this place.

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  schnell

  To answer the question: Missouri. ;)
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  Garden of Eden

  by Onager in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  where is the garden of eden?.

  i don't mean where in the world, i mean where in history.

  adam and eve get booted out of this place.

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  schnell

  I guess my point is the Eden story has all the characteristics of a fable. And if it is a fable (which it is) then the fall of man is allegorical (not true) and the ransom sacrifice is not required and all Christian religions are no more valid than a Harry Potter fan club.
  

  You know what else has quite seriously all the hallmarks of a fable? The book of Job is riddled with the number 3, just like Goldilocks (3 bears; too hot, too cold, just right...).

  When I tried to explain that this quite seriously means the story of Job never happened that way (without even bothering to say that the story never happened or that it was just a guy who got sick), dubs looked at me like I was growing 2 horns.
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  If you give a present, Jehovah will kill you.

  by schnell in

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  if you tell someone "merry christmas" or simply respond with "you too", then god is angry with you and you will answer for every such violation at your day of judgment.. if you eat some leftover birthday cake and a thin-skinned witness sees you and gets offended even though there's nothing wrong with the cake itself, you have become a stumbling block and god wants you to fix it before judgment day or else.. if you watch a cartoon featuring characters that may or may not be hilariously gay, it turns out that it does matter because this is an affront to god and he will judge all those who entertain such cartoons.. there are a lot of implications about god that jehovah's witnesses seem to make but never consider.

  the problem is that they don't follow it all the way through.

  in keeping themselves in god's love, and considering how they think he feels about matters in their daily lives, they submit to what is basically an ecclesiastical opinion that has terrible implications about god's character.

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  schnell

  • If you tell someone "Merry Christmas" or simply respond with "You too", then God is angry with you and you will answer for every such violation at your day of judgment.
  • If you eat some leftover birthday cake and a thin-skinned Witness sees you and gets offended even though there's nothing wrong with the cake itself, you have become a stumbling block and God wants you to fix it before Judgment Day or else.
  • If you watch a cartoon featuring characters that may or may not be hilariously gay, it turns out that it does matter because this is an affront to God and he will judge all those who entertain such cartoons.

  There are a lot of implications about God that Jehovah's witnesses seem to make but never consider. The problem is that they don't follow it all the way through. In keeping themselves in God's love, and considering how they think he feels about matters in their daily lives, they submit to what is basically an ecclesiastical opinion that has terrible implications about God's character. Here are some more:

  • If you watch a movie about Hercules, you have entertained false gods and enraged Jehovah's jealousy.
  • If you watch a movie about Snow White and the Great Tribulation immediately hits, you have entertained magic and witchcraft and if you then die during the Great Tribulation, you will be resurrected to judgment and cast into the lake of fire in the second death. And you will die, because God will make sure of it so as to keep his people pure.
  • If you watch a movie where magic is called magic, God is enraged. If you watch a movie where magic is called something different and you're cool with it and nobody's stumbled, then God's cool with it too until someone is stumbled or brings it to his/your attention.

  If you spend your life worrying about all this crap, you will waste it. You don't have to. Consider the implications of your beliefs. Ask yourself why you believe such things, and be honest. Is this really necessary? Is it constructive? Is it conducive to creativity? Is it realistic? Can you say it with a straight face?

  Oh, and...

  • The origins of every single thing matter because God was there to see it and he'll hold you to it whether you know or care or not.
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  Do they still do the Written Review?

  by Funchback in

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  i left in 2006. i seem to vaguely recall that the written review was no more but i can't say for sure.. so, do they still do it?

  was (is) it a waste of time?

  i used to hate it..

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  schnell

  Ah the written review. The greatest time to come down with a cold.
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  Will Governing Body stop preaching work?

  by neat blue dog in

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  at this year's annual meeting (2016), david "mark" sanderson asks the audience the question, "are you determined to keep on preaching with us until we say the work is completed?

  " to which they respond with applause.

  do you think that stopping the preaching work will ever be a part of the gb's long range plan?

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  No, Sanderson. My answer is no.
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  The Book of the Dead

  by schnell in

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  as i've been reading the book "what did africa contribute to the origins of religion" by robin walker, i've been fascinated with walker's work and it's led me to something i never thought i'd want to read.

  the egyptian book of the dead.. i got a copy of e.a.

  wallis budge's 19th century translation of the papyrus of ani from barnes and noble, so i'm sure everyone here can procure a copy or find it free online.

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  Be careful about what you read concerning Egypt and thier similarities. Some of what has been taught in the internet is inaccurate. Example, Jesus is a remake of Horus, not true and many of the things said about Horus can't be found in any place in Egypt.

  Take that up with the Egyptologists that predate the Internet, because from every single thing I have ever read about Osiris/Isis/Horus, the similarities are quite clear. It was clear in the late 19th and early 20th century too, Pagan Origins of the Christ Myth and all.

  The story of Set killing his brother Osiris and Horus avenging him after Osiris conquers the world of the dead sounds a lot like the Lion King, as well. It's the monomyth, the Hero's Journey. Of course it was used to fill out the narrative of Jesus.
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  Brooklyn Brothers Signworks... WUT?

  by schnell in

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  the ad for this site came up here on jwn.

  http://www.brooklynsignworks.com/jw/?gclid=cp7ppbzr_tacfy-baqodwocm1a.

  i was not aware that these cart signs were being made and sold by essentially a private company or proprietorship.

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  schnell

  Exactly, Pete.
  
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  Brooklyn Brothers Signworks... WUT?

  by schnell in

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  the ad for this site came up here on jwn.

  http://www.brooklynsignworks.com/jw/?gclid=cp7ppbzr_tacfy-baqodwocm1a.

  i was not aware that these cart signs were being made and sold by essentially a private company or proprietorship.

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  @OrphanCrow, might I suggest that BBS is running ads because they have all that competition?

  Isn't that a nice thought?
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  You Have Been Looking Forward to This for a Long TIme - October 2nd 1914

  by steve2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  picture yourself as a member of the brooklyn bethel family on friday morning, october 2, 1914. you are seated at your usual place at the breakfast table, awaiting the arrival of brother c. t. russell.

  suddenly the door to the dining room opens and brother russell appears.

  he pauses for a moment, as is his custom, and greets the bethel family with a cheery “good morning, all.” but then, instead of immediately taking his place at the head of the table, he claps his hands and makes a thrilling announcement: “the gentile times have ended; their kings have had their day!” you can hardly contain your joy—you have been looking forward to this moment for a long time!

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  That was beautiful.
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  To the brother who called in sick after Thanksgiving vacation

  by schnell in

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  2. friends

  thanks.. no really, thank you.. you decided to drive down to la with your wife and kids to be with extended family and eat a great big meal on thanksgiving.

  that's awesome.

  no, really, i hope you had great thanksgiving.. then you drove back up here, and that's a good day's drive so you were pretty tired.

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  schnell

  Nope! Thank you for asking. My tooth doesn't hurt now, I'm just out a few hundred bucks.