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  WHO..decided the Bible canon?

  by gumby in

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  so with all the writers around during,and after jesus time....who decided which books would be part of the bible?.

  did god say...."i want his book, and his book and...let's see....his book....,to be part of my word.

  is that how it happened?

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  In my studies, what I have learned is that the Bible as we know it today was started to be put together shortly after the Council of Nicea, the main charicter in the assembly of the books was a bishop named Irenious. It was not fully assembled as one book until somewhere in the 400's ad. At that time it contained some of the books that are now considered gnostic, these were dropped somewhere areound the 1400's. The catholic bible still contains books that the protestant bible does not.

  Now an interesting note is that Irenious was a Trinitarian, and the person that was called the Church Historian, Eusebius, was an Arian. Consitintine was actually nutral in the matter of the trinity, but was influenced greatly by Eusebius. Constintine wanted to settle the infighting in the new belief and so called the council of Nicea. He at this time became under the influence of Irenious and accepted the trinity, and as well Eusebius accepted the trintiy, although he was said to be one of the last to accept it. Irenious did most of the work on assembling the Bible, Now he as stated before was a trinitarian. The interestnig part is that the JW's and a few other sects of christainity try and use a book that was assembled (and some possibly written) by a trintarian to show that the trinity is not true.

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  My Experience Today with My Brother

  by Reborn2002 in

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  well, my brother and his wife came over to my parent's house to visit today while i was home.. to make a long story short, while my brother and his wife were chatting with my mother in the living room, my 1 and a half year old nephew reilly walked into the kitchen where i was making a caesar salad.. he walked over towards me and was smiling, how can any normal adult resist the innocent smile of a child who is your relative?

  i picked him up and gave him a huge hug, and told him i loved him.. as i was holding my nephew in my arms, my brother walked into the room.

  he was smack dab in the middle of an in-depth conversation about jehovah with my mother and his wife, and i admit i was rolling my eyes listening to him spew about the "truth" and "the only means for salvation in the last days of this wicked system" even though when i confronted him with info on the un, blood, russell gravesite, rape changes, exclusivity, etc, he had no response for me because he was dumbfounded and lost for words.

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  I'm really sorry to hear this about your brother. The JW's speak of love, but seem to never show it, Imean even Jesus is said to have shown love to those of his enimies, where is these peoples love?

  I know that not all JW's treat family like this, but it seems to be more common then not.

  Shameful

  Seedy
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  How to tell if you are an Apostate...

  by SYN in

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  * not only do you attend apostofests, you manufacture little badges with smurfs on them to wear to them!.

  * more than one of your friends is simply "that guy from the apostofest".. * your name is "apostofest guy" (see tourist guy!).

  * you travel over national borders in order to attend apostofests.. * you know all the regular posters here by their first names.. * you own a collection of smurfs.. * you have been referred to as the spawn of satan more than once by a jehovah's witness (bonus points for this sort of thing coming from an elder).. * you run an anti site!.

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  You might be an apostate if:

  You find the thought of theocratic warfare (lieing) as being wrong.

  You know that Beth Sarhim is a real place, and was a party place for da Judge.

  You refer to the presidents of the WTS as Chucky, da Judge, Homer, Freddy Boy, and Uncle Milty.

  Your waiting with anticipation for the JW episode on Dateline.

  You have this massive urge to attend the Memorial services for the Crackers and wine (I loved the one that used a straw)

  You answer the door when the JW's call, Naked and get them in a discussion about morals and deciency.

  You send out copies of "Crisis of Concience" to all your former JW friends.

  You find reading this stuff as being funny and not a serious matter.

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  The Apostate Paul

  by Valis in

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  i've recently come accross 2nd corinthians 12:2 where paul talks about the "third heaven".

  did he make this up in an attempt to call other versions of the world false prophecy, or did he somehow know he was in a place called the third heaven where he talked to dog?

  he admits only dog knows ,so where did he come up w/the third heaven concept?

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  Paul was the one of the apostles that was a free thinker, he really was not following the same path as most of the other so called "Christians" of the time. It is thought that he may not have even felt that Jesus was the son of God, much less god himself. The Gospel accreted to the Heritic Marcion, called the "Gospel of the Lord" is thought to have been maybe written by Pual himself. Marcion was a follower of Paul's as was Luke. The "Gospel fo The Lord" is almost word for word the book of Luke in many places, but is consider hertical becasue it does not follow the line of Jesus being part of the Trinity, Godhead.

  If your interested there is a websight based on Marcion, and his known history and writings.
  http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Ithaca/3827/Library.html

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  Are ex-jw who are angry potential . . .

  by mystikool in

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  it seems that there is much anger on this place.

  in my country we do not understand the manifestation of hostility manifested on a public board.

  if some of these people do not calm down, they might be next terrorists in news.

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  Mystikool.

  Ef you do nod tink dat de JW's will do rongs, in da name of de church den pleze tell me abut de idea dat et is wrong to lie in deir church, yet et es ok to lie to de rest of da world for da church. I refer to da Theocratic Warefare, woud dat be any different den if dey said to kill in da name of da church?? Jw's will follow blindly if de governing body said et was oke and da right ting to do.

  Posted tounge in cheek.. LMAO

  Seedy

  P.S. The fake accient was for you Bobsgirl
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  Why do JWs segregate themselves?

  by WinstonWigglesworth in

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  2. beliefs

  i was wondering today about how jw are not allowed to socialize with wordly people.

  how can they judge other religions if they aren't allowed to witness religous practises other than their own?

  my friend is a jw, so to better understand her religion i participated in one of her religious gatherings...yet when i invited her to my church she wasn't allowed.

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  Hmmmmm.......... Now I never was told I could not associate with worldly people but........ they encourage you not to, they do not have punishments for having friends that are not JW, however they put forth the attitude that is Us (the JW's) against them (The rest of the World). If you have too much assciation outside of the JW's then you may be a marked one that is considered weak, and will soon not be assciated with your self.

  Now on the idea of going to another religious gathering....... Those religions are of Satan........ our is of the true God, so it is ok for you to go to our services, but not ok for me to go to yours.

  It is all really a way to hide them from the truths about their Org. If they get too much exposure, then they will learn what it (the WTS) is really is all about. The WTS says it is for their own protection, but it really is for the WTS protection.

  I find it interesting that the WT mag, has many, many quotes from supposed "Satanic" (the other religions) Literature, now how do you suppose they get that?? WOW...... the Governing body and the writers of the WT mag are the only ones that can be trusted to read this other religous stuff without being stumbled, I am impressed.

  I really feel sorry for most of them.

  Seedy
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  Uh, Maybe I'm "Slow", But....

  by AGuest in

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  did i miss something?!!

  is sometime trying to send a "cya" message to the... well, i guess the media and general pub... no, wait... i know... their "members"!

  we don't condone... or hide... child molestation!

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  I think it has been up at least a week, that is how long ago I saw it the first time. I figured most everyone else had seen it LOL, and knew it was a smoke screen for the upcoming trouble they are going to have.

  Seedy
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  The Nephilim - What can I say!

  by Matty in

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  im sure nothing surprises the people who regularly post here.

  but what really shocks me now is that as a child i genuinely believed some of the most preposterous, stupid and moronic things ever committed to papyrus.. take the nephilim.

  well they were mutants.

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  Here are a couple of webpages about this topic

  http://www.mystae.com/restricted/streams/scripts/nephilim.html

  http://www.mystae.com/restricted/streams/scripts/watchers.html

  an interesting read

  Seedy
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  Circuit Assembly Notes

  by Mister Biggs in

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  hello, everyone.. i somehow managed to endure a circuit assembly this past weekend.

  the two positives that came out of it are:.

  1) i can easily beat any test of endurance and.

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  seedy3

  I wonder, did he really say he was quoting from the Catholic Encyclopedia? I looked and it does not mention JW's anywhere in the book.

  Seedy
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  What do you do at a birthday party?

  by flower in

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  please pardon my ignorance and stupidity but if i cant ask ya'll who can i ask?

  thats good for a little girl right?

  and i asked her mom if there was anything she needed help with.

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  Beer, don't forget the beer, you can't have a B-day party without beer . Ohhhh for a 3 year old Hmmmmm Beer, yep beer. The adults have to have some fun too while all the kiddies are running around playing games and such.
  

  Seedy