Posts by aboveusonlysky

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where have the demons gone?

by aboveusonlysky in

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does anybody remember some of the sensational demon stories jw's would tell back in the day?

i was a kid in the early 80's and i remember a few times hearing of people having real life encounters with demons.

for example, one sister claimed that before she became a jdub she would regularly talk to demons and they would even fix stuff like her washing machine!

aboveusonlysky

Well, what did Jesus do when the “ruler of the demons” spoke to him? (Matthew 9:34) He said: “Go away, Satan!”

As I recall it Jesus spoke to satan for a few minutes and only sent him on his way when the dude asked for worship, Jehovah in the book of Job let Satan interrupt his board meeting and even had a flutter with him over the eternal future of his favourite human.

Another example of botchtower nonsense......."hey brothers, we've made a rule and here's a scripture that kinda loosely fits what we're telling you to do in a round about way"

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where have the demons gone?

by aboveusonlysky in

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does anybody remember some of the sensational demon stories jw's would tell back in the day?

i was a kid in the early 80's and i remember a few times hearing of people having real life encounters with demons.

for example, one sister claimed that before she became a jdub she would regularly talk to demons and they would even fix stuff like her washing machine!

aboveusonlysky

"Now that I'm an atheist, I never come across any spirits or strange unknown happenings, dam that rational analytical thinking "

Great point, I remember watching the omen when I was a teenager, I knew it was about the antichrist and was scared as hell that something bad would happen in our house, but my curiosity overpowered the fear (same as reading anti JW stuff now I think about it).

Surely willingly watching a film like that would be far more likely to attract one of beelzebubs minions than buying a rug from a car boot sale!

Demons limited to living in dressers....lol!....naughty demon, threw away immortality to play hide and seek...demons Inc.

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where have the demons gone?

by aboveusonlysky in

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friends

does anybody remember some of the sensational demon stories jw's would tell back in the day?

i was a kid in the early 80's and i remember a few times hearing of people having real life encounters with demons.

for example, one sister claimed that before she became a jdub she would regularly talk to demons and they would even fix stuff like her washing machine!

aboveusonlysky

Does anybody remember some of the sensational demon stories JW's would tell back in the day?

I was a kid in the early 80's and I remember a few times hearing of people having real life encounters with demons. For example, one sister claimed that before she became a Jdub she would regularly talk to demons and they would even fix stuff like her washing machine!

One of our elders was really against pink Floyd because he said he knew someone who would receive a phone call from a friendly demon every time he played a certain song of theirs. Also I heard many stories about JW's having supernatural trouble because they had brought some 2nd hand demon infested item into their home, at the time it made no sense to me why witnesses loved charity shops so much!

Does anyone else remember such stories? The demons seem to have gone, maybe they got tired of having to fix broken washing machines.

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Help Please - Finding It Hard Adjusting To The Real World

by pale.emperor in

im asking for you guys help in a phase im going through right now.

im sure it’ll pass but id appreciate your advice..

born in, my family consists of mum, dad, two brothers and two sisters.

aboveusonlysky

There are some truly great posts in this thread people, very moving.

Pale.emperer I really feel for you dude, please try to think about what you have gained rather than what you've lost. This cult will always do it's best to take something from you, that's what they do after all but what you gain by being free is far better.

Since waking up I've lost some family, many friends and had some pretty horrible stuff said about me in the JW community. On the plus side though, me and my dear wife have just had our first child, something we were going to leave till paradise (it's just around the corner you know!) nothing compares to that man! Btw that's why I haven't been around for a while, the sleepless nights really do take their toll!

I'm over 10 years older than you, and sure I'd have loved to have done this earlier, but when I think what I have now compared to being trapped in a cult I can't stop smiling, this is real life afterall, not some illusion.

Make the most of what you have buddy, 31 is a brilliant age, even if you're starting over. All the best. Aboveusonlysky.

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Sanchy's critique: Nov 2016 Watchtower Study Articles

by Sanchy in

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what follows is my critique of the two final study articles from the november 2016 watchtower.

the articles titles are: "called out of the darkness" and "they broke free from false religion".. article: called out of the darkness.

parr 1. in 607 b.c.e., a massive babylonian army under the command of king nebuchadnezzar ii invaded the city of jerusalem.. .

aboveusonlysky

The hypocrisy is astounding, excellent analysis sanchy, well done.

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God is Real in Principle

by looter in

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now the majority of people nowadays do no go by the hope of old times.

now the reason for this is important and goes beyond mere words.

our culture sees ethics especially national or civil politics as the rules and standards by which we guide ourselves.

aboveusonlysky

Hey, don't pick on outlaw! I find his cartoons both funny and educational, and anyone who says otherwise can meet me behind the bike sheds after school and get their ass handed to them.

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Warning bells! Any organization that promotes spying or reporting on one another should raise concerns!

by stuckinarut2 in

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we all know that the society promotes a culture of reporting on one another to the elders for any breach of wt policy (not actual crimes - just breaking of wt rules).

many here have been "caught" researching facts about the society on sites such as this one.. surely that should raise alarm bells??

only high control cult-like groups operate like that!.

aboveusonlysky

In a word fear

The organization gives elders the power to be detective, jury and judge in people's private lives and this inevitably leads to abuse. Many publishers are willing to put others down to either climb the ladder or just make themselves feel better because the reality is that very few can live up to the org's rules and as a result feel worthless.

Also many elders are all too willing to scapegoat publishers because they're terrified of losing their position.

In my opinion many congregations are one big fear factory.

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Education, Indoctrination, or Propaganda?

by stuckinarut2 in

can anyone remember that classic magazine article that stated:.

"education teaches one how to think, but propaganda tells one what to think" ?.

(if someone can post that quote and article that would be great!).

aboveusonlysky

That same article tells you to check the track record of any organization that claims to have authority, yet I'm pretty sure when a person checks the JW's track record they call that apostasy.

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Arrangements for Electronic Donations to Local Congregations

by wifibandit in

april 17, 2016 to selected bodies of elders in the united states branch territory re: arrangements for electronic donations to local congregations.

(attachment 1) 2016 04-18-e scong--arrangements for electronic donations to local congregations.

(attachment 2) credit card donation arrangement instructions.

aboveusonlysky

"No collections are taken at their Kingdom Halls or conventions."

In the UK the org sets an amount per publisher per day for circuit assemblies to be paid by the congregations, a motion is made and a show of hands is taken at a midweek meeting for this contribution and many more contributions demanded by the org. To question this at the time would be highly embarrassing so most people just put their hand up. One question a lot of jdubs have in private is why an assembly hall built and paid for by the brothers costs considerably more than just hiring another hall.

If the desired amounts are not received through the contribution boxes the advice from the c.o. would be to give a local needs, you vowed therefore it's a sin not to pay. So more guilt tripping.

How the org can claim the higher moral ground over Christendom is beyond me, thankfully moreand more jdubs are starting to question where all their money is going.

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Are there any instances of "GOD" order and/or condoning the rape of women in the bible?

by Black Man in

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this came up recently with my dyed-in-the-wool jw pioneer mother, who swears up and down that there are no scriptural instances of this happening.

i seem to remember a couple passages, but can't remember where they were..

aboveusonlysky

Judges 5:30 'They must be dividing the spoil they found,A girl, two girls, to every warrior, Spoil of dyed cloth for Sisʹe·ra, spoil of dyed cloth, An embroidered garment, dyed cloth, two embroidered garments For the necks of the plunderers.’

Mucho human rights then.