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  Criminal , new US ally

  by Norm in

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  the norwegian newspaper vg, reports: iraqi general nizar al-khazraji was the man behind the butchering of 180,000 iraqi kurds in 1988. he was one of saddam's faithful generals.

  he later had to flee iraq and is living on a secret address in denmark.

  he is under investigation by the danish police.. ---------------------------------------------------.

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  That was very well said, expatbrit. For one thing, America alone would not have won WWII, so that ignorant argument used at times is just ignorance. But it's a lot easier to argue if you are ignorant of the facts!

  But my primary objection to that argument is that it doesn't excuse later wrongdoing by America. America is a great country, but if our leaders do wrong, why is it wrong to point it out? And even if we had been single-handedly responsible for saving the world 50 years ago (and we weren't), it wouldn't mean we could do no wrong now. America does some wonderful, generous things, and they get lots of airtime on our media. America also does some thorougly corrupt, brutal, criminal things, which get almost no airtime on our media, so most Americans remain ignorant of these bad things. It isn't wrong to criticize a country when it does wrong. It is the duty of every citizen to point it out when it happens -- that's part of our constitutional tradition and the very means by which our country was founded in the first place.

  Most Americans seem too fat and happy to remember that, and are only too willing to swallow whatever propaganda comes down the pike. 1984, indeed. It didn't only happen in totalitarian countries...
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  Criminal , new US ally

  by Norm in

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  the norwegian newspaper vg, reports: iraqi general nizar al-khazraji was the man behind the butchering of 180,000 iraqi kurds in 1988. he was one of saddam's faithful generals.

  he later had to flee iraq and is living on a secret address in denmark.

  he is under investigation by the danish police.. ---------------------------------------------------.

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  patio

  Hello Norm and Seeker,

  I don't comprehend your apparent complete negativism towards America. I don't recall a positive thing ever said about the US.

  Oh, I've said many positive things, but one tends to complain about the negative rather than extol the positive. But thank you for being a friend and asking me about it instead of just attacking me. Let me explain my position:

  A few weeks back, I pointed out my political position in detail. Basically, I believe any sufficiently large organization eventually gets corrupted. We certainly saw it in the WTS. And now we see it in the U.S. But I'm talking about the leaders, not the American people who I feel are quite open-hearted, generous, and freedom-loving. Well, some of them, anyway. No, my complaint is against the goverment, who I feel is hypocritical, deceptive, and anti-American. Republicans and Democrats are busy selling us out to corporate interests, lying to us repeatedly, using propaganda against us to keep us busy while they grab ever more power, and so on.

  Basically, I am railing against them precisely the way the early colonists railed against British rule. I am a constitutionalist. I appreciate the U.S. Constitution strongly. I want my fellow Americans to appreciate it too, so I point it out when our leaders trample on the Constitution. The Attorney General of the U.S. right now is an extremely dangerous man, for he shows no respect for our rights. The President seems almost eager to be "fighting a war" that is no more a war than the war on drugs (in which people get killed and the army gets used, so just because U.S. armed forces die, it doesn't automatically make it a real, constitutional, Congress-declared war).

  I love Americans. I despise anyone who tramples on the Constitution. I believe power corrupts. I point it out. I hope that makes more sense, and why I have been saying the things I have. I'm upset, just as I was upset when I learned of the corruption of the WTS and the GB. But I care about individual JWs, who have no power, just as I care about individual Americans, who have no power.
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  What happened to the dude who thinks he's Jesus?

  by butalbee in

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  i forget what his name is.

  he's the gay guy, who likes to dress in drag and thinks he transmigated to become jesus himself.

  his posts are just entertaining, and i need a laugh right now........ his dementia was very amusing, but now i'm wondering if he's gonna transmigrate as a troll.. who is this dude?

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  butalbee,

  Larsguy (Gary) has been around from time to time. I think I saw one of his chronology just today, in fact, lemme see.....yeah, here it is:

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=21611&site=3

  And no, this is not Fred Hall.
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  Criminal , new US ally

  by Norm in

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  the norwegian newspaper vg, reports: iraqi general nizar al-khazraji was the man behind the butchering of 180,000 iraqi kurds in 1988. he was one of saddam's faithful generals.

  he later had to flee iraq and is living on a secret address in denmark.

  he is under investigation by the danish police.. ---------------------------------------------------.

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  Nothing has changed in America. Well, let me adjust that. Now that terrorism has struck on American soil for at least the third time in history -- no, wait, let me adjust that, for the Americans themselves used terrorism against the British in the 18th-century. OK, let me start over:

  Nothing has changed in the American government. The rulers of this country will continue to act hypocritically whenever it suits them. They will continue to undermine whatever countries and rulers they want, even ones popular with their own people, if it suits them. They will continue to partner with terrorists if it suits them. They will continue to prop up butcherous regimes if it suits them.

  What has changed is the average American's view. They have been so shocked by the events of 9/11, they seem to think a new era in human history has arrived. The rest of the world is moving on, having been used to terrorism for many years now, and Americans are just late to the party. Meanwhile, the government leaders are the same duplicitious, lying hypocrites they have ever been.
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  I survived!!!

  by sf in

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  i am finally able to get out of my bed.

  the flu sucks and i wouldnt wish for anyone to go thru what i just went thru this whole last week.. 102 fever that just would not go away.

  the chills suck too; can't get comfortable.

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  Sorry to hear of your recent ordeal, but glad you are feeling better. Try to rest some more, even as you feel better, for it can take a while to completely recover from a flu.

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  Anti-Cultists are a cult

  by proplog2 in

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  i don't believe in re-inventing the wheel.

  arguments about atheism, chronology, trinity, evolution can go on forever.. i like to bring up positions that are unpopular on this forum because most of the people here have given up their examination of certain issues assuming that they have "now" got the real truth.. the lack of critical thinking that is the cause of involvement in off-beat religions can lead to gullibility in other areas.

  the stupid knee-jerk accusations i got when i attacked the molestation issue is typical.

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  I like to bring up positions that are unpopular on this forum because most of the people here have given up their examination of certain issues assuming that they have "NOW" got the REAL TRUTH.

  Every time someone says they can violate the laws of gravity, I point out that I have the REAL TRUTH about gravity and disagree with them.

  (Some subjects can have a resolution to truth, or with so much evidence in favor of them as to be nonsensical to believe otherwise.)
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  My day so far....

  by safe4kids in

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  flying down the interstate, on my way to class (late again!

  ) when i notice this strange smell in my van...gets worse the closer i get to school.

  so i turn around and head back down the interstate towards home, knowing that something is wrong (i'm smart that way).

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  Nice story, Dana. May your Valentine Day tomorrow be filled with unalloyed joy, not the turning-lemons-into-lemonade variety.
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  CNN show on pedophile priests

  by Mulan in

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  forgive me if someone already posted this.

  last night after the larry king show, there was a newsnight program on cnn about the priests who are child molesters and how the catholic church is trying to deal with them.

  it was a good listen, and much of it will be familiar because of the jw issues on the same situation.

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  This cartoon seems appropriate...for both religions:

  http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/cx/uc/20020213/tt/tt020213.html?u
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  Wanted: A few good men

  by butalbee in

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  where do you go to meet a good man?

  don't want to go to a bar, where all the men are drunks.

  don't want to date anyone i work with anymore, it's too awkward.

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  but blind dates suck

  Would you like a blind date, then?

  Sorry, couldn't resist the obvious setup line...
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  Winter Olympics commentary from Aussie's larrikins

  by ozziepost in

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  here in the land of oz we're enjoying watching our expert commentators, roy slaven and h g nelson, bringing the winter olympics to us on the seven network.

  if you guys and gals can catch it, it's worth it, even to see what the sydney olympians enjoyed in 2000.. already they have given expert commentary on the figure skating events.. do you know what these expressions in figure skating mean:.

  staining the ice?.

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  outnfree,

  I so wish I could get Canadian coverage of these games, because the American coverage is a joke.

  For the first day's medal ceremony, the host introduced the ceremony, we saw for a couple of minutes some artistic dancing introducing it, the host cut in and basically apologized for forcing us to watch something that wasn't bottom-line oriented. We later got the medal ceremony, taped, so they could feed it to us in bite-size portions.

  When you have the Olympics in your own backyard, and you still don't get to watch them live, it stinks.

  When you have an event where an American is not competive, and yet they talk more about him or her than the talented athletes from other countries that finish first, second, third, fourth, fifth, sixth....etc., it stinks.

  When you have a sporting event where there is as much commercial time as sports time, it stinks.

  When you have the Olympic organization banning live coverage any other way so you are stuck watching what NBC spoon-feeds us, it stinks.

  Oh well, I'll try to watch some events anyway, so that I can at least see the athletes do their thing...in five-minute bites...sigh.