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  Yet another caption contest

  by bboyneko in

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  let's see how much fun we can have with this one:.

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  Seeker

  "Really, lady, we offer everyone the chance to be part of a worldwide brotherhood of love and harmony."
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  1st door-to-door?

  by Moxy in

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  the society tries very hard to present the idea that the door-to-door work was essentially the same in the 1st century as now.

  the rendering of 'door to door' in ac5:42 creates that impression.

  so do the talks that discuss the missionary efforts then in modern terms (eg "paul was making a return visit here on an interested one") philo's hospitality question earlier shows that we have all been a bit taken in by this.. wt covers like this (4/1/01) sure help too:.

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  I also thought it was a thought balloon for the woman. And by the look on her face, it seemed she was thinking, "Hmmm...he looks about 12 inches..."

  But then, that's just me.
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  RUSSIA GOES FOR THE GOLD

  by You Know in

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  this present system is definitely finished.

  the present system being the anglo-american dollar dominated system.

  it is in the final stages of collapse as is becoming more obvious by the day.

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  Now, with this in mind, what are the outside limits for this to come true. That is, the very longest period of time before we can expect to experience financial ruin?

  According to You Know, Jan. 1, 2001. Of course that date has come and gone, hasn't it? When this was pointed out to You Know, he backtracked and claimed to have been "kidding."
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  For Maximus: I'll ignore everyone else

  by Rex B13 in

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  maximus,.

  you seem like a smart fellow but you have jw rationalism imbedded in your brain.

  you asked for an explanation and here it is:.

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  Seeker

  Seems Rex has gotten under the skin of some

  We've had a long history of this behavior:

  Rex: "Read this: It proves evolution is false."
  Us: "That's old hat, it's a misquote, and here's the real quote."
  Rex: "I see nobody can answer my material. Ha!"

  It gets real old. For years we've been putting up with his act, and he keeps going in circles with the same dishonest stuff. After a while, you do get sick of it.
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  bethel

  by musky in

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  i am curious.

  how many here have served time at or have relatives that have served at bethel?

  i have heard different stories when people came back.

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  Usually they didnt talk much and were very secretive.

  That's just them, must be a personality thing or maybe they got chewed out at Bethel and didn't want to talk about it. Most ex-Bethelites can't shut up about their time at Bethel.

  I was there, and loved every minute of it.
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  Bonn/Kyoto: Bush's stance gets heckled

  by philo in

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  paula dobriansky, the head of the us delegation, said to heckles from delegates for environmental groups: "the bush administration takes the issue of climate change very seriously and we will not abnegate our responsibility".

  spoken like a true politician.

  the story.... http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_1452000/1452315.stmpa

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  francoise,

  I frakly think this country is going to go straight down the tubes, and the lack of education in this country, especially in history and political science is the major thing that will kill it.

  Yup, we agree, at least on this.

  All I wish is that you could not view it as a liberal versus conservative thing but see that both sides are selling us out.
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  "Winston Smith" died Friday

  by HoChiMin in

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  fellow posters;.

  sad news.

  winston smith (screen name) a fellow poster and friend died friday july 20, 2001 at 43 years old.

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  Seeker

  My condolences as well. I remember "Winston Smith." He will be remembered.
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  Bonn/Kyoto: Bush's stance gets heckled

  by philo in

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  paula dobriansky, the head of the us delegation, said to heckles from delegates for environmental groups: "the bush administration takes the issue of climate change very seriously and we will not abnegate our responsibility".

  spoken like a true politician.

  the story.... http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_1452000/1452315.stmpa

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  Seeker

  You were refering to me.

  No, bajarama, I wasn't referring to you. Even the comment of mine that you quoted showed that. In directing a comment to you, I said 'someone', not 'you', made a stupid statement.

  I'm not lying to you, not have I forgotten what I said. You have been misunderstanding my words.
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  Misquotes

  by troubled in

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  has anyone ever written to the society,with evidence of misquotes, and asked them for an explanation of this?

  or has anyone ever written and asked them why they quote and don't give the source of the quote?

  if i did this, do you think i would get into trouble in the congregation, etc.?

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  troubled,

  While you are considering Bible examples, consider what happened in the Bible when a faithful person had mistakes pointed out to them (David, Peter, etc.) How did they react?

  Now consider those Bible examples where an unfaithful person had mistakes pointed out to them (Saul, etc.) How did they react?

  Now apply it to the modern day. When mistakes are pointed out to the WTS, which Bible examples do they resemble?
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  Misquotes

  by troubled in

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  has anyone ever written to the society,with evidence of misquotes, and asked them for an explanation of this?

  or has anyone ever written and asked them why they quote and don't give the source of the quote?

  if i did this, do you think i would get into trouble in the congregation, etc.?

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  troubled,

  Yes, many people have written to the Society about misquotes. AlanF went one better: a couple of years ago, he went to Bethel and asked to meet with Harry Peloyan who was the principal writer of the Creation book. They sat in the lobby of the 25 Columbia Heights building for a couple of hours while AlanF presented his findings about dishonest quoting in that book. Harry's response was essentially this: "Hey, those words appear in the original text, right? I got the words right, didn't I?"

  He seemed to completely ignore the fact that by selectively quoting, he was giving the completely wrong impression, even if the actual "words" he picked were correct. AlanF illustrated it to him by saying, "What if the Watchtower, in an article on evolution, said: 'Some people feel evolution is a fact, but the Bible shows otherwise.' What if someone then wrote: The Watchtower said, "evolution is a fact."? They would be getting the actual words correct, but by selectively quoting they would be giving a wrong impression.

  That seemed to make an impression on Harry, but he quickly came back to the attitude of 'So what, evolution really isn't true, so that's what counts, and besides I got the words right anyway.'

  If you write to the WTS, you won't get as thorough a response as what AlanF got from the author himself. Yet you see the futility of trying to express how dishonest this practice is. They don't care. And the WTS still publishes this book without correction, and still asks the friends to place it in the field, despite being informed of extensive dishonest quoting.