what about young men dreaming dreams and haveing visions, i remember this being preached as a sign of the end of the days.
it's some where in the bible i don't remember where.
well any ways has enyone been haveing nightmares?
What about young men dreaming dreams and haveing visions, I remember this being preached as a sign of the end of the days. It's some where in the bible I don't remember where.
Well any ways has enyone been haveing nightmares? I have had some and they trouble me sometimes, I always blame it on the traumas I've endured in my life JW related and not. Sometimes I'm affraid, I believe that in my lifes expeirences that realy any thing is possiable?
Senna
please study this chart very, very carefully: http://www.sru.edu/depts/artsci/ges/d-3-2.htm.
why has such an unprecedented boom in population and technology occurred during the specific time the bible points to the 'last days', 1914?
I didn't see the chart drop down to 0 after the "FLOOD" how acrate is this how dow we know about the population demise of the incans, what was the population of primitive Indians throught the world The Usa was a teenage country then many babies were made after the war, like in nature after a disaster life combusts miraculously this is a fact of nature.Great nations are built by the bones of the dead with mud and straw, blood and sweat. nature regulates even man no mater how much we intervien we cant control ower own preservation it's time for many innocent people to die and thats just the way it is.
when nato invokes article v, it is more than just one member asking for support from the other member states, but article v invocation means all member states view the attack as an attack on them all.
in other words, nato aliance is at war with those responsible, and will support the us lead, which will now hold not only the terrorists responsible, but hold those nations that host them as equally responsible.. "brussels, belgium (cnn) -- nato has unanimously declared the hijack attacks on the u.s. to be an assault against all member states.".
"it is the first time in 52 years that the alliance has invoked article v -- the nato self-defence charter that says if one member state is under attack all other member nations would defend it.".
We should launch the polaris!!!!!!
Something drastic must be done, the sacrifice of a few innocent lives over seas hardly out weighs the terror, death, and devastation to the rest of the world.
We don't want to be a muscle bond country thats afraid to fight back no matter what the out come, are we afraid to lose or not be so impresive to the rest of the world?
i hope all of you are doing okay in light of this terrible tragedy we have witnessed.
it makes me want to join the army or something, it's hard to sit back and do nothing.
upon watching the watchtower's new pr video of the terrorist act in new york city, it is as far away from the reality of what happened as an isolated community can be.
If I (were) a JW now, I expect that I would probably be telling every one that this is the begining of the end of their wicked system and that its too late for them to accept the watchtower now.
But I'm not a JW any more and I dont believe that this is a sign of the end. If I were the president of the watchtower I don't know what I'd do. But if I were president of the U.S.A I'd launch the Polaris it dosent scare us!
i've been interested in the discussion on the 'for those of us who believe in god' thread and aguest wrote this:.
"we have been misled into understand what 'faith' really is.".
if we have all been misled, then can someone explain what exactly faith really is?
What is faith Realy?
I relate it to an extrapolated inferance.
Extrapolate - To infer an unknown from somethig that is known.
Infer - To guess, surmise, to conclude by reasoning from premis or evidence.
Prmise - A proposition supporting or helping to support a concluseion or argument. To state or assume as a premise.
I find it easier to explain what I want to say with simple definitions
Blind faith is something I cannot do.
Hope that help or at least was thought provokeing
SennaBras
i just found out my best friend died this morning.
i'm not looking for sympathy, i just need some input.
we were very close and worked together volunteering for the aids foundation here in my hometown.
hello Jon,
Sorry about your delema.
This is a situation that is best (in my opion) Handeled by following your hearts instincts. I believe that as death ends a marriage with it's vows and promices, as also it dose with a pact made with close and best friends. A promise of that nature and at that time may have been for your peace of mind at that point and time of grieving for you both. The pourpose of your promise may have been for that moment it sounds more like you two were trying to promise not to die on each other in that way any time soon. The promise had a deeper meanig than it's literal meaning.
I hope you understand what I'm trying to say, And again I'm sorry about your situation follow your heart sometimes the mind thinks too much and requires too much time to decide.
SennaBras
well i've been away for a while, lot of stuff to sort out in my life.
so anyway i've been takeing the info from this site and all the other apostate related sites (ha ha) and haveing some debates with my family, they don't know anything i'm talking about and realy got the brain washed replys youd expect.
and to prove a point, i'm now deceptively after 14 years in exile studing with an elder....to challenge him, and unknown to him i want some satisfaction for what they did to me.
Hello Everyone
Well I've been away for a while, lot of stuff to sort out in my life. So anyway I've been takeing the info from this site and all the other apostate related sites (ha ha) and haveing some debates with my family, They don't know anything I'm talking about and realy got the brain washed replys youd expect. And to prove a point, I'm now deceptively after 14 years in exile studing with an elder....to challenge him, and unknown to him I want some satisfaction for what they did to me. Apearntly he's well versed in the scriptures because I told him I wouldn't study the Control Tower stuff, He met the challenge.
Now I don't know how to combat him I havent looked at a bible in over 14 years I forgot half the crap they preach, but I'm still very bitter at the way they tore my family apart and what they said would become of me if I went to the word and became worldly.
I was wondering if any one knowledgeable would be able to arm me with some good points to challenge, I don't want to be too nasty yet I want to let this elder get comfortabe first and then start with difficut questions for him, and then release some HELL for em.
Thanks for any help or suggestions
Sennabras
...or least favorite?.
just for fun of course.. i just posted on the top 10 movies to take on a desert island and it had me wonder.. anyways....as to my favorite:.
"there is no spoon.
The Crow: "Jesus walks into a hotel and hands the Inn kepper 3 nails, and then he asks, can you put me up for the night.'
For a few dollars more "Well you see you hurt my donkeys fellings, you got her all upset, If you appologise to her like I know you will we'll be on our way"
The pink Panther: " There's a beautiful lady in my bed and a dead man in my bath"
TERMINATOR: "I'll be back"
The great Lowmbowski: "That's right mon, nobody fucks with the Jesus"
There are so many better one's I'm drawing blanks , COOL topic.
Senna
i've been thinking, i was never a good jw as far as studing went, so i'm not the type to quote scriptures, and passages in the books and magazine publications put out by the jw's.
but i heard enough being around them and what ever talks if any that payed attention too.
it seems like they try to scare you into their group.
I've been thinking, I was never a good JW as far as studing went, so I'm not the type to quote scriptures, and passages in the books and magazine publications put out by the JW's. But I heard enough being around them and what ever talks if any that payed attention too.
It seems like they try to scare you into their group. Who else feels that way? All the images they used to depict armagedon, and the way they interpit the bible to be literal and symbolic to their convienance, they seem to hve an answer for everything, and when thy can't come up with one to convince them selfs they quote some scripture about how there are things that were ment to be under stood at a later time bullshit.
They make you feel like your evil if you dont submit to their teachings, I don't know I,m just rambeling, My other posts that are up that didn't get responds is just me venting in my own strange way thanks all, see ya.
Senna
for me that is a hard question to answer.
it seems like when your in the borg it is always pounded in your head that you need to do more so they made you think you were never doing enough.. the last five years that i was in it i guess you could say i was pretty gung-ho, i regulare pionered for almost three years as well as served as a ms, i used my home for book study as well as saturday field service.. but you know what all that does not amount to a hill of beans, you know why?
because the whole time i was a doubter, i never liked it from the time i was a kid.
This makes me think of a relitive of mine, I have a cusin who became a JW and of her own strengh and faith dissasociated nerself from the family. well her parents got into the borg just to keep the family together, That,s the sacrfice of loveing parents. I think it was far more honerable on there part what they did to keep their family together. than what my cusin did under the destructive influence of the borgs.
Senna
