Posts by Sentinel

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Why Jehovahs witnesses have it wrong.

by sleepy in

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it doesnt take much analytical posturing when looking in retrospect at what are increasingly difficult positions of religious conviction, to see that the direction taken by the parties involved in governing the publishers and individuals involved that constitute the quasi religious organisation of jehovahs witness are not in sequence with nor do they in principle touch the cornerstones of contemporary thinking and rational logic.. consequently the reaction to the typical agenda of the said ruling party and its effect to the alienated from membership of that group can be said to inflame the righteous indignation of all who have come into opposition to the obfuscating blanket of self-belief represented by the non elected members of that ruling group.. in plane terms , relying on a self contractually envelope of authoritarian leadership results in a malignant tumour the like of which can not be remove by mechanical nor medicinal methods.. if only the language used to harangue the subjects of so called theocratic conflict was not so guarded in dappled wording and opaque analysis, then and only then could the luminosity of integrity and reality shine dazzlingly.

Sentinel

Sleepy,

I appreciate your well written thread.

Even now, I look back and wonder, how in the world did I allow those people to have so much control over every aspect of my being.

...I consider myself a loving, rational person, and yet...for so long, they had me under their spell.

Once I got on the outside, I began to see everything for what it was....ugly and distorted...and even then, the "pull" was still there...the fear and guilt.

Just thinking.....wouldn't certain governments like to be able to control the masses in such a way? Makes one think about the future possibilities of such control, even in the borg. What purposes they could they use all these faithful Jdub robots for? Very scary.

Karen

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Finding Someone From a Long Time Ago

by Jesus Christ in

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friends

ok, say someone was trying to find someone they once knew.

what advice would you give them?

its a woman who's since gotten married and divorced since the last time you talked to them back in the early/mid 90's and has also had a kid.

Sentinel

Hi,

In answer to your question, perhaps if you do have information about "when" and "where" the child was born, you could check the vital statistics for that state for birth records. That way you would probably find the mother's name cross-referenced, as they always ask for the maiden name as well as the married name.

Just an idea. It is difficult. I've lost track of so many people that were a part of my life years ago. I wonder about them...what they are doing...and how they have been coping. Several have since left JW's like I did.

Hope this helps you a bit.

Karen

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Bodies found in missing girls inquiry

by frogit in

i feel so sad that this has happened, my thoughts go out to all the familys and friends, what can i say?.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/2199785.stm.

frogit

Sentinel

Frogit,

I am in the U.S., and had not heard of this horrible crime.

So many innocents are being savagely abused and then murdered all over the world.

The genetic makeup in many human beings is terribly flawed. Our society has a big responsibility to punnish the guilty parties. I believe that a "life for a life" is really fair in instances such as this.

Karen

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Bright side of a BAD day

by Erica in

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it started out having a bad day.... no babysitter had to miss work , friend came over so i went to get a haircut, she followed me there and took care of michael, on the way home, on the freeway, i was on the the third lane to the left and the car engine shuts off and i had to get three lanes over to the right, in major traffic, i barley made and the car dies.. i started to panick cause it's dark and i have michael and i'm on a freeway.... so i get michael and start walking and praying, and this man pulled over and i started to get even more nervous but i accepted the ride, he took me to a gas station and well his truck was really high , like three in a half feet, well i had forgotten about that so when i steped out of his truck i fell with michael in my arms he started screaming and i started to ball my head off.. okay here's my point like 3 people there helped me, the gas station let me use there phone and gave me something to drink, a couple wouldn't leave until they knew i was taken care of offered me money for a cab or tow truck, they waited like 15 minutes.. i thought of you all, who really didn't know me, but were there for me when i needed it the most, there are some really great people out there, and it doesn't matter what religion you belong to.

Sentinel

Erica,

I'm so sorry you had such a horrible time. But it sounds like you are a person who always looks for the good in everything, and so, in turn, the "good" found you and helped you out.

When I was a JDub, all I ever heard from the borg was how awful the world was, and how you couldn't trust anyone in the world.

Like you, I too have found that so-called "worldly" people have shown me more genuiene, unconditional love and concern through the years, than the JDubs in the organization ever did.

Karen

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What is the Height of Arrogance?

by Francois in

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an ant standing on a ladder, poking an elephant.. a coconut falls from a tree, hitting the elephant on the head.

the elephant says, "oooof.".

the ant says, "suffer bitch.".

Sentinel

Hummmmm,

....just how tall is the WTBTS building in New York?

To me, that would be the "height" of arrogance.

Karen

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Is there anything that could make you go back?

by sleepy in

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friends

is there anything that could make you go back?.

what do you think, is there any change of belief or change of circumstance that could make you return to the jw fold?.

i cant see anything that could make me go back,but i was thinking mabye some of you religious types would go back if they changed some doctrinal things,or if they stopped banning blood.. how about if a family member was dying and hoped to see you in paradise would you go back for a while just to make them feel happy?

Sentinel

There is absolutely nothing that would make me even consider returning.

One thing that being in the borg taught me was that religion in any way, shape, or form, is false. I thank them for that!

I'm a spiritual person, but I have no religion in my life. I'm very happy, fulfilled and complete without the dogma.

Karen

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My cat--Need Your Help in Naming Her

by patio34 in

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i have a new cat.

a smallish young adult (1-2 years old) female, with black & gold back and white chest, belly and feet.

i can't come up with a name i like.

Sentinel

I am a cat person. Right now I have a one year old Tortie, we got from the Animal Shelter. We named her Ginger because of her coloring.

By your description, your kitty sounds like a "Sheba" to me. You will probably get so many replies to this thread, because there are many cat lovers out there, and naming a cat is almost like naming a baby.

The most beloved animal I ever owned was a Russian Blue. She was so affectionate and loving. She was slim and all a beautiful Gray/Blue color. We could not settle on a name and I ended up calling her "Kitty-Pooh". I had her for eight years and really miss her. What a silly name that was, but once everyone began calling her that, we couldn't change it.

Good luck and best wishes with your new feline friend.

Sentinel

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DO U BELIEVE IN LIFE AFTER DEATH?

by Mary in

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even though we were all raised with the firm doctrine that absolutely nothing happens to you after death, (except for those baptized before 1935 of course), does anyone here think that maybe something does happen after we die?

i've seen some programs about people that have reported having near death experiences.

while this doesn't offer proof, i find it very strange that one individual, during her nde, repeated a conversation she heard on an entirely different floor in the hospital while she was clinically dead.

Sentinel

This is very deep. I do believe that we each have a soul that belongs to the creator(s), and that it exists on different levels of "earthly experiences", living in different bodies. Through experiences of my own, I believe when the body is injured or dies, that the soul is without a home and leaves the body. Sometimes, it returns, and these are what we call "out of body" experiences.

Some souls get injured as well within their human existance. A soul can also die, which would be a terrible thing. The journey of one's soul is something we, as humans, cannot fathom. We aren't supposed to remember the separate journeys, but now and then, our memories of the past enters our present. We call this reincarnation, or prior existence recognition. With each journey, we have a specific contract to learn something major about the human existance. Each time we pass through the experience, our soul moves to a higher level. Eventually, the soul will return to the creator to dwell among the brotherhood of the light beings-- unless it has been damaged by going too far from the good.

There is absolutely no way to prove this. It is just a satisfying way for me to gather together my life's experiences thus far, and make some sense from all of it. This answers lots of things for me, and gives me comfort.

Sentinel

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IF YOU COULD CHANGE 1 THING IN YOUR LIFE,what ??

by minimus in

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if you had 1 wish that you could have granted that would change something about your past,what would it be?

Sentinel

The one thing that I would change if I could, was the relationship I had with my father. He never bonded with me as a child, and I have missed that my whole life. Even in the later years, when he attempted to connect with me, we were almost strangers. I feel like I never really knew him---and, that he never really knew me. :-(

To me, that is very sad, and I feel like my entire life would have taken a different direction, had he been a real part of it. He was always just "dad", the harsh disciplinarian--always out with his friends. I gave him respect as my father, but never felt accepted and loved.

From that point on, everything else in my life kind of cascaded from feelings of low self-esteem and rejection, and affected me deeply. My experience with JW's only compounded my issues.

Now, my dad is gone. He died January 31, 2001, at age 79. I have managed to resolve the inner turmoil and move on. It could have been so different....

Sentinel

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How do you know for sure when your'e insane???

by Celtic in

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friends

in the membrane?.

hahahahahahahahaha.

celtic mark - cackling cornwall uk

Sentinel

I suppose that would be when you believe that it is everyone else around you that is insane, and you are the only one that is sane.

Karen