Posts by NeverKnew

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What about the ones who WATCHED THE PATIENT DIE?

by Terry in

i was deep into my jehovah's witness life pre 1975 as the drumbeat to that mysterious yet specific date loomed large.. it was presented as a countdown to jehovah's promise of a 1000 year reign.

"how fitting" was the popular phrase!.

but, it was more like a countdown of a different sort.. .

in 1976, my friend bruce price was in contact with jehovahs witnesses who had become disillusioned through the debacle with 1975. bruce was the leading voice among the sda ministry in working for jws.

at the time, i was a member of the sda church.

although i left them about 25 years ago, to this day bruce and i enjoy a strong and genuinely warm friendship.. so, in 1976 bruce invited me to a meeting with one of the jws who was leading the disquiet in his congregation in dandenong (victoria, australia).

NeverKnew

I have a 20 page letter written to the Watchtower in 1976. It's 20 pages long so obviously it wouldn't make sense for me to post the images.

If anyone would like to add it to a server and create a link, I'd be happy to e-mail the letter to them... or if you'd like a copy PM me your e-mail and I'll get it to you after work tonight.

I think those who haven't seen it would really appreciate it.

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So Your Husband Is Thinking of Becoming A Jehovah's Witness

by LoisLane looking for Superman in

i want to share with you, things your husband can demand from you, because, well he is the man and you are not.

i don't know if you have read about jw's sex lives and what is allowed and isn't.. no oral for anybody.

no masturbation for anybody.

NeverKnew

OH Just Lois! You may remember, we shared a common bond in the area of ex-husbands. I was a totally different person back then. I was primarily concerned about being the only female in my family carrying the scarlet "D."

Now? I'd totally claim it was Turret's syndrome that made me run that man over, pour gasoline on him and light that match...

I mean, why drag it out?

Loved your insight! :)

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Questions by JWs in 1976

by Doug Mason in

in 1976, my friend bruce price was in contact with jehovahs witnesses who had become disillusioned through the debacle with 1975. bruce was the leading voice among the sda ministry in working for jws.

at the time, i was a member of the sda church.

although i left them about 25 years ago, to this day bruce and i enjoy a strong and genuinely warm friendship.. so, in 1976 bruce invited me to a meeting with one of the jws who was leading the disquiet in his congregation in dandenong (victoria, australia).

NeverKnew

PM me your e-mail address. I'll mail you the pdf of this letter tomorrow morning!

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That sweet, tingling feeling...

by MsGrowingGirl20 in

that sweet, tingling feeling you get, no matter how hard life is at the time, when you remember that you're free.

that feeling reminds you that it's okay to not be sure about everything and it's okay to love persons even if they don't read the same literature or hold the same views as you.. it's okay to make mistakes because the people who love you will not pull back their love and association because of it.. the persons who are around you genuinely love you and are not just trying to portray 'love' because it looks good to 'potential' sheep.. it's even okay to try new things and it isn't a bad thing when you're actually enjoying life.. i don't have to try to be someone that i'm not and my worth is not, not.... my worth is not measured by a number on a piece of paper.. i can go through life at my own pace and i can be different.. that feeling reminds me that i can be myself!.

i know that you get that feeling also.

NeverKnew

Thatta girl! :)

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Rosemont Cemetery-Masonic Temple-Catholic Church CONNECTED

by NeverKnew in

yes, by land transfers - connected.. .

first - masonic hall property.

the parcel now known as the land owned by the mason's appears to have been consolidated some time ago to form one huge parcel.

NeverKnew

You really have no idea. I don't want to post until I get just a little more information.

These pictures are very interesting to me.

I wish I knew French. Google will translate for me.

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The Bible Truths of the Watchtower Corporation were really a commercial fraud supporting the distribution of the organization's literature

by Finkelstein in

one thing should be brought forward in all respect to truthful honesty is that the wts.

self proclaimed doctrines were fraudulently devised and created to attract the attention from the public eyes and mind.

in a way the wts.

NeverKnew

Found it! And, I can say with absolute certainty that in my research into cemetery ownership a couple of these companies listed on this site definitely existed.

http://jwdivorces.bravehost.com/russell.html

Edit: Here is the paragraph...

In 1879 (PROCLAIMERS BOOK inaccurately says 1887) , right around the time that he started publishing ZION'S WATCH TOWER magazine, Charles Taze Russell formed TOWER PUBLISHING COMPANY, a sole proprietership, for the obvious purpose of publishing ZION'S WATCH TOWER magazine, tracts, future books, and other literature authored by himself. After the founding of Zion's Watch Tower Tract Society in 1881, all literature and other "products" distributed by ZWTTS were purchased from Tower Publishing Company . Charles Taze Russell, via his ownership of Tower Publishing Company , owned everything of financial consequence which most people assume belonged to ZWTTS -- including the Bible House headquarters building and all inventory. Literature was "distributed" in the name of ZWTTS , but ownership was nothing but a "paper transaction" . Whatever money ZWTTS received from sales or donations was paid to TPC for literature that was again sold or given away by ZWTTS . In 1891, Charles Taze Russell even stated, "The Society owns nothing, has nothing, pays no salaries, etc." In 1895, Russell published in the August ZWT that Zion's Watch Tower Tract Society was NOT formed as a "religious" organization, but rather was a "business association" , which had "no creed or confession" , whose main function was to receive donations from those who wanted to help Russell spread his version of the gospel, and then to spend those donations -- which was done by purchasing Russell's literature from Russell's Tower Publishing Company . One interesting point that should not be missed is the fact that, in practice, up until 1898, most if not all "donations" , at least the one's of significance, were being directed to Tower Publishing Company and ZION'S WATCH TOWER magazine, both of which were personal holdings of Charles Taze Russell, rather than ZWTTS . (There was no I.R.S. back then.)

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The Bible Truths of the Watchtower Corporation were really a commercial fraud supporting the distribution of the organization's literature

by Finkelstein in

one thing should be brought forward in all respect to truthful honesty is that the wts.

self proclaimed doctrines were fraudulently devised and created to attract the attention from the public eyes and mind.

in a way the wts.

NeverKnew

I read somewhere... maybe on this site not sure... that Russell owned the publishing house that printed his own publications!

So, he set up a manufacturing plant that printed publications (he was part owner and this entity was separate from the Zion Watchtower blah blah blah company), created a religious theory and wrote publications to support said theories, sold the publications to interested parties and paid his own company for the production of said publications.

Seweeeeet, huh?

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New magazine Carts

by jonno12225 in

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news from my wife from the recent meeting is that our congregation will be recieving 2 new magazine carts for market witnessing.

we live in a small market town in north yorkshire and have regular street markets.. the congregation is small (75+ publishers, -1 now) so it seems that this is being rolled out pretty conprehensivly now to all congs.

i still have no info as to whether each congregation has to purchase these from the hq or costings per unit..

NeverKnew

My goodness, Dazed! Can a cross be photoshopped into that picture? I'm thinking to the left of his window...

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Does the WTBS emphasize these two verses for control?

by cog_survivor in

something i came to understand that the worldwide church of god did effectively was to cut people off from from their feelings and intellect in favor of the "appropriate" thoughts and feelings.. how they did this was by frequently emphasizing these two verses:.

proverbs 3:5 - trust in the lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.. jeremiah 17:9 - the heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?.

by means of these two verses i was taught not to trust myself with regards to either my ability to reason or if my gut was telling me something was wrong.. i was wondering if these two verses were emphasized for jws as well..

NeverKnew

Cog! That's the Korean cult, right? My best friend has recently lost a niece to that cult!

All: My friend and I were making comparisons a few months ago. Her college graduate niece is required to live with 4 other cult members in an apartment. I was sick listening to the control they're exercising over this child. They've blocked ALL of her free time.

Congratulations on getting out Cog! How long were you in? and out of curiousity, were you recruited from a college campus?