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  Confused about Satan's plan according to WTS

  by new22day in

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  my rudimentary understanding of jw beliefs is that satan is leading traditional christian religions and the wild beast of the un is his tool.

  is the wts concept that the un will eventually ban all religion and this will start the big a?

  wouldn't satan be working at cross purposes if 'he' is leading the false religions too??

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  NeverKnew

  New22day, I couldn't even TRY to understand that concept. Good for you for trying.

  I remember telling my friend about all the wonderful things that were happening around us. He was looking at me like I had four heads. Later he went into this monologue about everything being bad in the world what with the crime and homicides... blah blah blah.... It was like the ONLY thing he heard on the news was bad. I responded that in Christ, I have nothing to fear. He responded with some language about Satan's control. It was the oddest conversation.

  I feel so sorry for him.
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  you mean I don't know everything?!!!

  by emperorslaundrist in

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  2. friends

  i was a true blue dyed-in-the-wool starry-eyed believer until six months ago.

  i've since been on a reading binge, everything my 'spiritual diet' never allowed before.

  bible commentaries, 'apostate' books, occult, evolutionists, taoism, shamanism, philosophy and even my first trashy romance novel .

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  NeverKnew

  I can't wait to share this with my friend - when I think he's ready to see it.

  Thanks for posting. :)
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  Anyone here drunk the wine or ate the bread at the Memorial?

  by biometrics in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  after being put under a lot of pressure by family and ex-friends to attend the memorial this year (i didn't).

  i'm thinking of attending next year and drinking the wine and eating the bread.

  because i beleive the whole memorial to be a rejection of christ ceremony.. i'm prepared to receive a lot of weird death stare looks.. has anyone here ever partaken?

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  NeverKnew

  Fink and Village: I just posted on this at http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/members/private/249827/1/Is-he-waking-up

  Fink: Given all that I've learned in the last year and a half, I could easily see how one would throw the proverbial baby out with the bathwater. I accept you and I can't even be mad at you for it.
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  Anyone here drunk the wine or ate the bread at the Memorial?

  by biometrics in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  after being put under a lot of pressure by family and ex-friends to attend the memorial this year (i didn't).

  i'm thinking of attending next year and drinking the wine and eating the bread.

  because i beleive the whole memorial to be a rejection of christ ceremony.. i'm prepared to receive a lot of weird death stare looks.. has anyone here ever partaken?

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  NeverKnew

  PREACH you two!!!! *grin*

  Matthew 23:13 “But woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you shut the kingdom of heaven in people’s faces. For you neither enter yourselves nor allow those who would enter to go in.
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  Conversation with a JW coworker

  by MrFreeze in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so i started working at my new job in december.

  there is one person in my department who is a jw.

  then there is another jw who works in my building, who just started going to my old hall about 6 months ago.

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  NeverKnew

  ah... emotions got me. Forgot. Be ready for the face to face rebuttal then.
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  Anyone here drunk the wine or ate the bread at the Memorial?

  by biometrics in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  after being put under a lot of pressure by family and ex-friends to attend the memorial this year (i didn't).

  i'm thinking of attending next year and drinking the wine and eating the bread.

  because i beleive the whole memorial to be a rejection of christ ceremony.. i'm prepared to receive a lot of weird death stare looks.. has anyone here ever partaken?

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  NeverKnew

  We might not define it as weird. We'd probably chalk up the whole event to not quite understanding what the symbolism meant and something we'd probably know if we were a part of your faith. Kinda like if you attended a Buddhist Temple and everyone hit the floor. You may not understand what the heck you're doing or why you're doing it, but you'd figure you should follow suit out of a respect for the service.

  You all are now educated in the realm of high control groups. This was completely unfamiliar to me until I started researching this cult. Before my research? ...I can't say that that possibility would have been on my radar.

  Sheep to slaughter level trust and cluelessness. :(
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  Anyone here drunk the wine or ate the bread at the Memorial?

  by biometrics in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  after being put under a lot of pressure by family and ex-friends to attend the memorial this year (i didn't).

  i'm thinking of attending next year and drinking the wine and eating the bread.

  because i beleive the whole memorial to be a rejection of christ ceremony.. i'm prepared to receive a lot of weird death stare looks.. has anyone here ever partaken?

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  NeverKnew

  Transhuman68:

  The challenge is that most traditional Christians have no idea HOW different the beliefs are. I mean that VERY sincerely.

  To be clear, I've only been to 1 meeting as a visitor and if I hadn't known better, I could easily see a person of my kind leaving a service and still not being clear on the difference in the teachings of the WTS.

  I have never been to a Memorial service. I would have gone but was too offended that they'd count me. :( I kinda wish I had gone so that I could have provided honest feedback as to what traditional Christians hear, see and perceive.
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  Conversation with a JW coworker

  by MrFreeze in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so i started working at my new job in december.

  there is one person in my department who is a jw.

  then there is another jw who works in my building, who just started going to my old hall about 6 months ago.

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  NeverKnew

  I think I would have totally called him out on that.

  Me: "That's an interesting and inaccurate assessment. Where'd you get that?"

  Him: "uh... "
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  warped logic from the memorial talk

  by why144000 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  speaker said we should not partake because when jesus arrives he will take the remnat to heaven and the memorial will be no more.

  just as we will not partake then (because the memorial will not exist) it is only logical that we will not partake now.

  warped logic at its finest!.

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  NeverKnew

  So.. is this a way to try and suppress another uptick in the partaking numbers?
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  If you tried to get your doctrinal or historical questions answered by an elder in your cong...

  by NeverKnew in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what was the result?

  i have seen answers strewn throughout many posts but never consolidated.

  this is important.

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  NeverKnew

  Oh and Gary, great thread on page 1... I'm just going to have to copy and paste some comments from it for presentation. It's in the private discussions so I don't think he can get to it.

  BTW, your comments/suggestions are being read. Please, if there are any more pieces of advice, please post them. :)