Posts by NeverKnew

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The JWs slipped up again with the same Alpha and Omega error from 1978

by booker-t in

the saying people will make the same mistake over and over again is so true.

in the "revelation grand climax at hand" the revised one 2006 the wt again makes the same error and attributes the words at rev 22:12 to jehovah on pgs 306 and to jesus on the last page 319. you would think they would have learned their lesson from the 1978 wt blunder.

they almost use the same wording discussing the suddeness of jesus coming and jesus encourages his followers of his sudden coming and they list 5 scriptures and say jesus spoke them and one of the verses is (rev 22:12).

NeverKnew

Marked. Thank you! :)

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If I could become a JW

by nicsfreedom in

terrence howard's words not mine:).

pay attention to minute 10:29. does something sound off?

ha!

NeverKnew

His half sister (shared mother) is an absolute sweetheart and went to school with my daughter. When their mom died I was heartbroken for the my daughter's friend. His mother was a beautiful person.

I am absolutely certain his mother was not a practicing JW.

*edit* Obit - http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/local/obituaries/obituary-anita-williams-mother-of-actor-recruiter-at-pitt-412153/

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"Mama, Id Like to Introduce Myself" - A blog post by ex-JW Author

by cofty in

ex-jw bridget r. gaudette has posted an article in which she daydreams about the conversation she would love to have with her jw mother.. it is a brilliant and moving piece that also featured on the richard dawkins foundation website yesterday.. please make sure you click on the link at the end of the article for an excellent audio interview about her jc and subsequent treatment by her family.. .

hi mama, im bridget gaudette, your 34-year-old daughter.

we havent talked much the last dozen or so years.

NeverKnew

Bridget,

You have every reason to be proud of yourself. I'm really hoping you connect with them.

Cofty,

I read your post on the letter from your parents. I'm incredibly proud of you for taking the first step. I plan on remaining optimistic for you. :)

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10 Hottest Issues about Jehovah's Witnesses-Your Opinion Please

by raymond frantz in

hi guys ,i'm currently updating my website (www.new-jw.org) and would like to build a page with the 10 hottest issues about jehovah's witnesses .i'm still a believer therefore i would like to concetrate most on doctrines and less on policies.

i build a list below, please tell me what you think ,your feedback is much appreciated :.

united nations affiliationbaptised in the name of an organizationmemorial ,jesus' sacrifice denial mealblood idolization of the governing body 1914pedophilia casesjesus is not your mediatorharsh disfellowshiping policycounter productive witnessing of the good news

NeverKnew

Who's the intended audience - JWs, awakening JWs, non-JWs, non-JWs who are studying?... multiple groups?

The issues associated with the UN ordeal would be hard to convey to non-JWs.

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What is the most damning watchtower publication?

by zound in

i want to purchase a couple of vintage watchtower publications to help in my helping jw's break free.

some of the older ones are expensive or hard to come by - i know you can buy them on cd's but i'd like to own one or two of the "classics of propaganda"- some of the ones that speak for themselves as to the ridiculousness of this religion.. of course any magazine i pick up today speaks to me of the ridiculousness, but you need something much more hardcore for the jw's.. any recommendations?.

"children" has some pretty good quotes in it..

NeverKnew

As a non-jw, I was interested in the evolution of the door to door work.

In my research, yes, I learned that this whole scam started off with Russell who created a printing company under one corporate name, then started writing magazines under another corporate name then claimed that he wasn't making profits off of the magazines. Hmmm, but he HAD to pay the printing company - that he owned. Brilliant. He was followed by a truly religious Rutherford who realized through his college experience in selling encyclopedias how profitable door-to-door work could be and that got rolled in... These two? What was their religion? Money... Still and yet, being wrong, for some, despite Deut 18:20-22 could be forgivable...

BUT, the most insane piece I've read was written in a Watchtower of July, 1943 describing the mapping of territories. ANY non-jw who reads THAT? End of discussion... IF a conversation continues?... Compare that article with Ezekial 13... Case closed.

There are NO scriptures that say Jesus went door to door. John 18:20 screams the opposite. Luke 10:7 infers the opposite. History says that Christians caught proselytizing in the early centuries were fed to the lions. So... "early Christianity is not being mimicked... you're being lied to," is my mantra.

As for teaching, my experiences of the temperament of the JWs I've spoken with suggests that quite a few need to serve in a different capacity. James 3:1 suggests the same.

imho

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I need help from an expert in latin, please

by EdenOne in

jw
friends

i'm writing an article and i would like to ask for the help of someone with good knowledge of latin for a quick review of one sentence.. if you can help me out, it'll be much appreciated.. eden.

NeverKnew

EdenOne:

I have comments that are WAY over my head. E-mail me! :)

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I need help from an expert in latin, please

by EdenOne in

jw
friends

i'm writing an article and i would like to ask for the help of someone with good knowledge of latin for a quick review of one sentence.. if you can help me out, it'll be much appreciated.. eden.

NeverKnew

My daughter had 7 years of Latin and blew away the IP Latin test. Unfortunately, she's 3 years out from that. PM me if you want an opinion from her. :)

She may recall some of the rules. They're baffling to me.

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Question for Elders... Will Refusing to meet with Elders - Avoid Disfellowshipping?

by rrb2016 in

jw
friends

does anyone know if this strategy will work to avoid being disfellowshipped?

if one moves their card from one hall to another before a "wrongdoing" becomes public - and then refuses to meet with the elders at the new hall - will they simply be able to fade away without being disfellowshipped.

i had heard that if you refuse to meet with the elders, they generally will not df you - in order to avoid possible legal issues.

NeverKnew

Reading Flippers advice...

I've read post after post about trying to allude elders and it's terrible for the victims. Right now, I'm just trying to draw a bibical parallel to leveraging the USPS to kick people out of salvation.

To most who know as I have always known (traditional Christianity), the WTS's arrogance is hilariously ridiculous.

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What to Say When a Witness Comes to Your Door

by Darth Rutherford in

jw: yes thats right.. me: good!

jw: yes, thats true.. me: good.

jw: yes, sure do.. me: tell me, john, what would you do if jesus christ told you that you shouldnt follow jehovahs witnesses?.

NeverKnew

I think I've been ID'd as one who may be too assertive so I'm going to have to use this in a gentler way, but OH I'm using this! *grin*

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Watchtower Speaker Giddy Over Slaughter Of Billions in convention talk

by Watchtower-Free in

the god of love speaks through a watchtower representative.

the speaker is.

ciro aulicino 2007. this is the jwfacts condensed version.

NeverKnew

OMG! THIS IS THE KINDS OF THINGS SAID? THIS IS WHAT YOU LISTEN TO AT CONVENTIONS????

Please say this is not the norm!