Posts by NeverKnew

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Ideas to wake up the JW 'Feelers'

by Captain Obvious in

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a great point was made by neverknew on another thread about certain doctrinal issues will cause a 'thinker' to wake up, but a 'feeler' will just shrug and carry on.

the feeler jw is often not stupid, but intellectually lazy.

they will often not bother to do research, whatever is said from the platform is fine.

NeverKnew

Londo, we need you! I'm now in friend "love" with Leolaia! *grin*

In that post, I believe I was arguing against the theory of 607 not being a significant catalyst towards an awakening. Given my reading, the inconsistencies seemed to be a valuable contribution to many awakenings.

I'm beginning to wonder if being personally wronged or being up close and personal WITH the wrongs (in a position of authority or as the spouse of someone in a position of authority) could be the biggest catalyst for feelers in realizing WTS inconsistencies. Is this a possibility?

...and out of curiousity, was there any event that made you feel uncomfortable that preceded this research?

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at the DC right now,disgusting talk

by losingit in

tortured by this talk where they are attempting to legitimize the division/ separation of family.. "sadly friends some will refuse to have courage in this matter.is it not in our best interests to abide the arrangements of the christian congregation as set by jehovah?

accept the torture stake involved in confessing union with christ.

then they cite the example of a brother who is thankful to his wife for persisting in preaching to him.. now they are talking about disfellowshipping, lay serious guilt trip .the brother talking about his baby sister getting disfellowshipped, how his father cried for the first time.

NeverKnew

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at the DC right now,disgusting talk

by losingit in

tortured by this talk where they are attempting to legitimize the division/ separation of family.. "sadly friends some will refuse to have courage in this matter.is it not in our best interests to abide the arrangements of the christian congregation as set by jehovah?

accept the torture stake involved in confessing union with christ.

then they cite the example of a brother who is thankful to his wife for persisting in preaching to him.. now they are talking about disfellowshipping, lay serious guilt trip .the brother talking about his baby sister getting disfellowshipped, how his father cried for the first time.

NeverKnew

ah... okay... herein may lie the answer to my question where I asked which day is the worst. :)

http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/255629/1/2013-Convention-Day-of-greatest-detriment-to-the-WTS

Thanks, LosingIt!

2013 Convention - Day of greatest detriment to the WTS

by NeverKnew in

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i'm curious.

for those of you who attended, was there any day perceived by you as a greater "...wait, what did they just say?

" day or were they all the same?

NeverKnew

I'm curious.

For those of you who attended, was there any day perceived by you as a greater "...wait, what did they just say?" day or were they all the same? Given my readings, I'm left with Saturday being that day. Am I wrong?

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Is their understanding of unity a form of mind control?

by I_love_Jeff in

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note the following comments and research taken from a concise dictionary of cults and religions:.

what [jehovah's witnesses] define as unity is actually, in effect, a rigid organizational structure and policy.

unity, as the bible teaches it, is a oneness of spirit and humility under the lordship of jesus christ.

NeverKnew

This thread nails the conversations between the current conversations of a JW friend of mine and myself so thank you. :)

On more than one occasion, he has mentioned "unity" as a significant barometer of being a Christian which has puzzled me. I'm beginning to realize that he has been seeing the churches as being a collection of un-unified entities. I've explained that different denominations such as the Catholics, the Episcopalians, the Methodists and the JWs are unified withiin their own doctrine and that many are united in the same readings explored from week to week. Collectively though, the churches are unified in their belief in Christ and respect each other in that regard.

Being united leaves the possibility of FAILing united.

According to the Old Testament, how'd that work out for the Israelites?

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How Do you Solve A Problem Like Maria (or more importantly 1914)

by wizzstick in

so how will they solve it?.

having researched the whole 607bce thing, it's clear that it's utter nonsense.

for example, the house of egibi transaction records closes the door on any questions about the reign of kings of this time.

NeverKnew

Not that many people have left from finding out Jerusalem didn't fall in 607,

Respectfully, I don't know that this is true. As a non-jw, I've researched elements that contribute to awakenings and this one seems to be spoken of quite a bit. On the Meyers Briggs scale, I'd say it contributes to the awakening of the "Thinkers" moreso than the "Feelers" but ANYone's awakening has the potential for another's awakening.

... most JWs aren't even aware there's a controversy.

Yup... but once they're made aware of it, research could potentially help them realize the inconsistencies of the WTS.

Wizzstick, you're really good at tapping into their intentionally confusing logic. Better be careful; they'll be asking you to write for them. *giggling*

In my limited exposure, it appears that they could just stop writing about 607 and 1914 for a period, then make a statement negating all previous statements with no acknowledgement of the former being a lie statement that was inaccurate. The great crowd can then rejoice in the "new LIEght."

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One years has passed since getting the boot. My story, past, present, and beyond.

by BreathoftheIndianNose in

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so as of today, it is my one year anniversary of being out.

i simplified it so that most people who know nothing of jws can understand.

in addition to writing this as self therapy, i plan to use it to educate others in my life who need to know more about where i come from.

NeverKnew

Excited to read more!

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New Rumor - Watchtower and Awake in one magazine only?

by TJ Curioso in

hi folks!.

someone told me that there is a rumor that soon the watchtower and awake's magazines will be only one (fusion).. anybody knows something concrete about that, or is only rumor instead?.

tj curioso.

NeverKnew

This will let individuals use current technology to spread the word "secretly".

Maybe they can push to do it "invisibly."

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Is it a sign from Jehovah or just irony?

by dissonance_resolved in

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so i signed up to volunteer at a local urban community center- first time i've ever volunteered for a non-jw effort.

i thought i would end up cleaning, organizing, something like that, but the first thing they wanted us to do was go door to door in the neighborhood handing out flyers!

face palm...

NeverKnew

Oh now THAT'S hilarious!

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HELP!

by The Searcher in

i'd like to post a pdf of the july 15th watchtower with the highlighted nine reversals of teachings in it.

(the ones i've found so far) plus one or two comments i've added.

can anyone tell me how to upload it please?

NeverKnew

Oh, I would LOVE to see this.