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  WT ain't going out of business.

  by joe134cd in

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  i've heard this said in other posts, so now i'm going to combine it in one post.. the $28 million awarded to conti is only drop in the bucket for what they are worth.. there would have to be 100 s of successful sex abuse law suites before they would feel it.

  quite frankly i don't reckon there would be enough with the right circumstances to have a successful case against wt.

  having a dozen or so cases isn't going to break the bank.

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  The new bibles probably brought in a hundred million or more.

  They weren't free?
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  2014 DC: Fewer, but larger venues in the U.S.

  by doinmypart in

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  in the u.s. there are fewer venues this year, but they will be held in larger facilities.

  as long as i can remember my family travelled no more than 2 hours to attend and in the last few years the dc was local (within a few minutes travel).

  this year my family is driving 6 hours to a major u.s. city.

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  "Hmm...." says the Outsider. Other than the financial windfalls, can another angle be considered?

  It's known that being assigned to a congregation makes it easier for others to track activity (or inactivity) and follow-up on attendance because the group is so small.

  Conversely, wouldn't scrambling assemblies and conventions (small to large then back to small with a rearrangement of congregations expected to attend in an area) contribute to an inability for the average "Joe" to discern the REAL participation rate... especially since "Joe" doesn't have access to the raw numbers?

  Filling a large venue creates the illusion of MANY adherents ("Oh, NeverKnew, there were THOUSANDS there - from different countries even!") and then breaking it back down to smaller venues creates the illusion of "Oh, NeverKnew, there are SO many now in the Truth that we had to be broken down into smaller groups. The larger venue wouldn't have held all of us."

  Is there ANY chance that rearranging venues is intentionally making it impossible for the adherent to start asking him/herself, "hey...where'd everybody go?"

  Even better,could this be the "life-saving direction that we receive from Jehovah's organization" that "may not appear practical" but that "all... must be ready to obey" even at the expense of "secular education, material things, or human institutions" (go ahead and lose your job and home while bowing to our demands).

  Could next week's words be leveraged, not as a prelude to one Kool-Aid event, but as a thought-stopper for WHATEVER a person's issue with the organization might be?
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  Talk about depressed

  by zeb in

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  2. medical

  my wife is preparing to spend hundreds on a lap top to take into the field service.

  i carefully mentioned that the wts has gone from condemning the web to now using it.. her reply" no they never condemned it just said to people to be careful in using it".

  my memories of convention speakers must be different and" this is the way things are now; its all downloaded from the web".. with that as a given then why isnt the wts issuing computers to any one who wants one?

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  PoconosKnows says,

  Yes, the whole WT library is available electronically through an app. JW.org app on google play, itunes.

  The WTS has been writing various publications for over 100 years. Define "whole" in terms of the WT library.
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  No 2014 JW Yearbook (Yet as of 1-6-14)

  by pixel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  for me is very strange that the yearbook for 2014 is not out yet on the internet and/or gongregations.

  is strange to me because it is a book that comes annually, and no word yet from the borg of it.

  you don't expect something like that from the wt/fds/gb to be dlayed that much.. it makes me wonder, what's going on???

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  RUB! STOP IT! That's not nice! *giggling*
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  Why do the Governing Body do it ??

  by Phizzy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  when i was an active jw the constant demands for loyalty and obedience to the gb used to really annoy me, and mrs phizzy.. why on earth do they do it in such a shrill, screaming and obvious way ?.

  they sound like spoilt kids, "you must play the game our way".. it was partly that constant harping that really helped me to wake up, i came to see just how much they had usurped the place of jesus.. surely it is counter-productive to do the demands as they do, loud and blatant.

  they could get the same results with a seemingly humble attitude, after all, the new pope is the vicar of christ by title, but he comes over as humble..

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  They could get the same results with a seemingly humble attitude, after all, the new Pope is the Vicar of Christ by title, but he comes over as humble.

  I'd like to add that given the Pope's background, he'd have MANY reasons to be more arrogant than the Popes of the WTS. His real-world experiences alone probably tops their collective experiences. He was a chemical lab technician, janitor AND nightclub bouncer!?!

  While public, Wikipedia has over 250 citation references. His academic background is amazing.

  This article says a lot about his leadership style: http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2013/11/17/when-pope-francis-was-put-on-laundry-duty/

  Compare the pope's leadership style to the GB's leadership style. Who's going to obtain more heartfelt followers?
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  Does anyone here believe that things are worse than they were in the past?

  by Trismegistus in

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  i still hear this crop up every once in a while, so i figured that i'd open it up to a wide audience.. things are looking pretty good to me..

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  NeverKnew

  After learning that over a third of Witnesses in America are Black, I find this notion an insult to the memory of those who struggled for the equality of Blacks in America.

  While Whites may have been enjoying some semblence of peace and prosperity in the 50's (compared to the Great Depression and "World" wars), over one-third of the JW's ancestors were trying to find facilities for [insert "N" word here]. These "facilities" included luxuries such as toilets and water fountains. Can you imagine the fear of being hung from a tree, bullied, raped or killed by another human and having NO RECOURSE? THINGS ARE WORSE???? Which would have been YOUR preference?... slavery?

  They gotta be kidding me...

  As a non-jw, I was caught off guard the last time this was said to me and spent the next few moments processing (translating) WTH* they were saying. A few hours later I was PI$$ED.

  All the fighting your ancestors did for YOU and THIS is where you are?????

  Nothing gets me revved up more than this phrase now. I'm on the bad language line so I need to stop. Please pray for the next African-American JW who makes this remark in my presence. Please.

  *cleansed for public viewing... that's as clean as I can make the ugliness of this
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  Talk about depressed

  by zeb in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  my wife is preparing to spend hundreds on a lap top to take into the field service.

  i carefully mentioned that the wts has gone from condemning the web to now using it.. her reply" no they never condemned it just said to people to be careful in using it".

  my memories of convention speakers must be different and" this is the way things are now; its all downloaded from the web".. with that as a given then why isnt the wts issuing computers to any one who wants one?

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  NeverKnew

  Free computer classes are available for those unfamiliar with technology at my church. Maybe the WTS is going to use that money from the real estate sales to train the sales force.

  Do tablets work with the WTS's new web stuff?
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  Asked my christian co-workers.....

  by DS211 in

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  Neon
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  Yearbook is late this year

  by factfinder in

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  usually i recieve an advanced yb but have not this year.

  i also notice they have not posted it yet on jw.org.. i wonder if this is due to problems at the printery at wallkill or they decided to produce the yb later from now on?.

  or perhaps they decided not to publish it any more.. anyone have any info on this?.

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  NeverKnew

  I know that ex-jws wait with baited breath for the stats/figures.

  Are active JWs looking at stats/figures or are they looking forward to the articles that affirm their own truth?

  I guess I'm asking, do THEY care about the numbers?
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  here a picture of me, and one of me and my son

  by unstopableravens in

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  NeverKnew

  ah.... look! He's toooooo friggen cute to be a Ravens fan. I can see he will definitely grow up to be a Steelers fan.