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  Has anyone used this question on a JW? How might they respond?

  by BU2B in

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  as i was laying in bed i thought of a question to ask my wife.

  "when the wt has an article on the next change in teaching or new light, just guessing, what do you think it might be?".

  it does not need to be phrased just like that, but i thought it might be a powerful question since it would make the jw subconsciously question all of the current teachings, something they are not taught to do.

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  NeverKnew

  In the past, I've talked to my friends about how it appears the WTS unapologetically and inexplicably changes doctrines and definitions.

  A couple of weeks ago, and thanks to another poster, I was able to show an article from 1942 where the WTS declared that the shepherds and dukes were the annointed and Jesus. That week, the presentation was on the shepherds and dukes being the elders. Yesterday, I wondered out loud how it must feel to be trapped on unstable ground with the WTS. In churches, I explained, core doctrines change very rarely. If you don't agree with the core doctrine, you switch to a church that more closely aligns with your own "new light."

  I got the "but we're the only ones who preach" argument which I countered with the Pentacostal growth.

  I guess you have to be careful about spitting contests. There's a war to be won.
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  Are some dog breeds more responsive than others?

  by compound complex in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  woof!.

  i care for numerous canines and wonder about your experiences with man's best friend.. some appear ready and able to do as asked and others, well, just sort of stare .

  and stare.

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  NeverKnew

  Just lost my Standard Poodle and I still cry about it. She was beautiful and VERY smart.
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  What are the feelings/thoughts within 24-48 hours of exposure to an undeniably true (for you) TATT?

  by NeverKnew in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  many of us know where we were during 9/11 or when john kennedy and martin luther king were killed.. it seems that when faced with ttatt, real truth is dismissed as "ol' light" or "an imperfect group of men" but from what i gather, many of you, at some point, were hit with a component of ttatt that shattered all of those cliches that allowed you to brush off the obvious reality that something was very wrong.

  some of you may remember the hours following your earliest exposures to an undeniably true tatt.

  did you zone completely out?

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  NeverKnew

  Neverknew: What question did you ask your friend?

  After months of my presenting historical WTS inconsistencies (that probably felt more like "gotcha's"), I'm now noticing very measured responses that are, most likely, heavily researched. I've been presenting very innocuous information that has nothing to do with WT doctrine just to re-start communication.

  Broadly, I have been talking about the necessity of understanding, not only the scriptural Mitzvot found in the Old Testament, but the significance of learning about the Judaic lifestyle under Mosaic Law. I believe you can more fully appreciate the New Testament with this foundational knowlege. The evening prior, I had sent an e-mail about Mosaic law with respect to how the primary accusor of an offense where the punishment was stoning was required to throw the first stone. In John 8, the Pharisees dragged a woman into the temple and made an accusation of adultery. In verse 7, Christ challenged the one without sin to throw the first stone. I was attempting to demonstrate the opportunity for a deeper connection to the message with a broader understanding of Jewish culture in that era.

  After his "research" (which wasn't necessary - it was just supposed to be observational) he concluded that he was unable to make a comment on my observations of that scriptural passage because the Watchtower had deemed the passage "spurious." I wanted to ask if the WT was suggesting that the Bible was fallible but given his disoriented behavior, I felt it'd be too much.
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  Another elders kid goes down the tubes not to mention he is the monster of cleveland's nephew

  by noni1974 in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://www.19actionnews.com/story/24591538/ariel-castros-nephew-indicted-in-kiddie-porn-case.

  i knew him since he was a baby, i remember when he was born.

  sad fact is he was a spoiled brat and never disciplined for anything.

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  NeverKnew

  So this kid is the son of Juan in this video? http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/crime/2013/09/05/erin-savidge-castro-family-speaks-on-ariel-suicide.cnn.html
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  I want to send a follow-up question to my sister who has recently cut me off

  by Faithful Witness in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  recently, i received this email from my jw sister: .

  while i appreciate the thought, please do not send us gifts.. our kids are not missing out on anything other than things we try to protect them from.. at this time, based on prior encounters and their affect on me emotionally, i think it would be best if we didn't communicate.. i hope you can understand my decision and the fact that it is not meant to offend anyone.. .

  i sent her a loving and forgiving message, and know she has no intention of answering me.

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  I will not beg, but I will not be afraid to talk to my own sister.

  Thatta girl! Go back to your own pre-nearly-JW days and try to be who you'd be with a wayward sister. I probably wouldn't even acknowledge that e-mail. My brother and I go for periods where we're peeved with each other and then eventually we just get tired of being mad at each other.

  Isn't playing by the cult-personality's rules playing by the cult's rules? Were you both non-JW's for some time? I believe if it were me, I'd continue interacting as though she never sent that e-mail.

  But I'm annoyed today so I may not be the voice of reason.
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  Pre-registration process for salvation

  by NeverKnew in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so, i understand that if you are a partaking jw, you are indicating that you believe you're pre-destined for a heavenly slot and if you are a non-partaking jw, you're indicating that you're going out for the earthy deal.. what is this... a section 8 lottery?.

  what makes one believe that they get to shot-call their own fate?

  for those who believe in a creator, i gotta believe that if your creator tells you you're going to pluto - you're going to pluto.

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  So, I understand that if you are a partaking JW, you are indicating that you believe you're pre-destined for a heavenly slot and if you are a non-partaking JW, you're indicating that you're going out for the earthy deal.

  What is this... a Section 8 lottery?

  What makes one believe that THEY get to shot-call their own fate? For those who believe in a Creator, I gotta believe that if YOUR Creator tells you you're going to Pluto - you're going to Pluto. Period.

  What if you pre-register for the Earthly deal, but were pre-destined for the other and failed to partake? THEN where are you going?

  I'm annoyed today.
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  What are the feelings/thoughts within 24-48 hours of exposure to an undeniably true (for you) TATT?

  by NeverKnew in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  many of us know where we were during 9/11 or when john kennedy and martin luther king were killed.. it seems that when faced with ttatt, real truth is dismissed as "ol' light" or "an imperfect group of men" but from what i gather, many of you, at some point, were hit with a component of ttatt that shattered all of those cliches that allowed you to brush off the obvious reality that something was very wrong.

  some of you may remember the hours following your earliest exposures to an undeniably true tatt.

  did you zone completely out?

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  I felt lost I was drowning in a deep void of nothingness and I felt that all systems of truth and morality meant nothing.

  Statements like the above is the type of emotion I'm terrified they'll face for an extended period of time. I'm seeing phrases like "loss of identity" and Dis-member's journey that look a little frightening - especially for the gentle spirit that I know.
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  What are the feelings/thoughts within 24-48 hours of exposure to an undeniably true (for you) TATT?

  by NeverKnew in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  many of us know where we were during 9/11 or when john kennedy and martin luther king were killed.. it seems that when faced with ttatt, real truth is dismissed as "ol' light" or "an imperfect group of men" but from what i gather, many of you, at some point, were hit with a component of ttatt that shattered all of those cliches that allowed you to brush off the obvious reality that something was very wrong.

  some of you may remember the hours following your earliest exposures to an undeniably true tatt.

  did you zone completely out?

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  NeverKnew

  A friend of mine sounded completely disoriented yesterday and said they had been up until the wee hours of the morning looking over a question I had asked. This is a born-in who has been trying to show me that the WTS an honorable institution. I asked if they were okay.

  "I feel... kinda ....out of sync. Just ...nevermind."

  Years ago, I would have pushed for a more complete answer. I decided to leave it alone.

  Given my background and seeing what it means to be a JW, TTATT would be a miracle sent from God if it were given to me. It seems that many of you liken the experience to being ripped from a much needed morphine drip.

  WMF, by your screenname, I suspect you're a firecracker in real life. You and I would be hurling obscenities together. I suspect the slow seep experience of some of the others would be in line for the personality of this person; if the dissonance doesn't take over again...
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  2013 WT CD Library?

  by blondie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  will the wts be issuing one (or has issued onne already?

  ) or will the www.jw.org online library be the future?.

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  NeverKnew

  Is this CD MAC compatible or do I have to bust out a PC?
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  Mac Book Pro with Retina or Dell XPS 15? (both with new Haswell processors)

  by Simon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've been in need of a new laptop for a long time.

  no, i mean it - a really long time.

  the old dell that we have has a floppy lid and is woefully underpowered although it does build up my upper body strength every time i pick it up.. the last 6 months has been a bad time to buy something new though with the haswell processors on the horizon promising better battery life and also screen technology seems to have been leaping ahead recently to a new hi-dpi standard.. so apple finally released their mac book pro and at the same time dell has released an xps 15 ultrabook which looks like a pretty good alternative and probably better 'value'.. pro's and con's?

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  NeverKnew

  I design applications for an entity that leverages PCs. This question was often asked of me and I regularly discouraged ownership of a piece of equipment that only a small percentage of the population was using.

  When faced with a buying decision, I thought it professionally worthwhile to have some familiarity with "the other" environment so in 2009 I purchased an IMac as my home computer.

  I now know that I was a totally malinformed idiot. Five years later, my Imac still takes 36 seconds to go from a cold boot to surfing the net. I haven't had to invest a moment in calls to Apple, virus protection, uninstalling/re-installing software, or dealing with peripherals that didn't seem to communicate with this machine.

  Congratulations on your purchase. :)