Posts by NeverKnew

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"the world has never been worse" - not according to this website..

next week's wt is full of helpful encouragement not to believe satanic propaganda that might tell us that the world is getting to be a better place to live in.. .

well, i stumbled across this article here, that contains lots of so-called 'facts' and 'figures', i'm sure glad i read my wt first so i can recognise that this is nothing but lies, all lies.. .

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NeverKnew

Heathens... they should read the Scriptures.

Say not, "Why were the former days better than these?" For it is not from wisdom that you ask this.

- Ecclesiastes 7:10

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Need to find those Km or Wt articles encouraging all to read the old publications!

by stuckinarut2 in

i have been dropping comments to a few re some classic old beliefs and teachings etc... and when asked "where did you read that, or how come you are saying such and such?

" i have replied "well, you remember we have often been told to study and research our old 'theocratic history' and 'old gems' of material?....

now though i have been challenged to prove where this has been printed!.

14 Minutes and you are not a Servant of Jehovah

by JT in

jw
friends

last night we were discussing the "new light" that was revealed to the gb recently from jehovah.

many of us recall all the co talks and elder parts based on the bible text of how a true servant of jah would not be "inactive or irregular" for years one was required to have at least one hour to be considered a servant of jah.. as the sec in my hall i recall so many times calling up friends to get thier time and hearing them break crying cause they didn't have 60min only about 45min- and they knew that it meant they were not servants of jah.

now with the new light from jw a person with only 14 minutes of time will now be disqualified as being a servant of jah.. it is amazing how many jw will view this arrangement as a "loving provision from jah" instead of realizing that thier service to thier god has been reduced to whether they get 15min or 14 min.

NeverKnew

Marked for grocery cart example.

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My aptly named SAD is tomorrow, I will be taking notes..

by BU2B in

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friends

oh joy of joys my sad is tomorrow.. i will be taking notes, but of fallacies used, outrageous demos, contadictory statements etc.

i will share my thoughts here.

the good part of this was a cancelled midweek meeting and the fact its only one day.. .

NeverKnew

Notes are VERY much appreciated. I really do use them.

I wonder if they'll have that demo where the brother turns down a promotion because he's worried it will interfere with his meeting attendance?

Amazing. I've only been to 15 meetings and I've already seen this doozy.

As a non-jw I have a lot more leeway so, with a confused look I turned to the stranger next to me and asked , "So... why doesn't he go to another mid-week service at another Hall that offers a daytime service?"

Annoyed, she retorted, "We don't have service in the daytime and it's because he has to go where he's assigned!"

A few seconds later, I responded, "Why doesn't the Watchtower provide services during the day? The Vatican does. And about this assignment, if you're all saying the same thing, what difference does it make to God if you go on a different day?"

I was promptly hushed.

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Lurking faithful JWs, here's a question for you to ponder on:

by Island Man in

are you in 'the truth', or are you only in 'the current understanding'?.

how long will it be before many of the current teachings peculiar to the organization are rejected as old light and relegated to watchtower's dust bin of old light, out-of-print literature to be expunged from future issues of watchtower library cd-rom?.

NeverKnew

Are you in 'The Truth', or are you only in 'The Current Understanding'?

I finally got to laugh today. Thanks, Island Man!

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Thinking about meeting with the elders...might record, any tips for hiding a recorder?

by Jon Preston in

jw
friends

ive been speaking with my wife and she feels that its the honest thing to do and just meet with the elders and tell them my thoughts and doubts.

not to rejoin but da if i want.

she brought out that its rude of us for them to expect us to do parts and think alls well, and the.

NeverKnew

Lots of voice recorder apps available on smartphones.

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"Scriptural" Baptism

by NeverKnew in

i was told that jws baptize in the name of the father, son and the holy spirit.

i asked if it was done exactly as stated in the bible to be sure i was hearing the answer correctly.

the response i got was "yes!

NeverKnew

I don't want to insult them but what if I asked an elder with them nearby? An elder would know, correct?

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"Scriptural" Baptism

by NeverKnew in

i was told that jws baptize in the name of the father, son and the holy spirit.

i asked if it was done exactly as stated in the bible to be sure i was hearing the answer correctly.

the response i got was "yes!

NeverKnew

I was told that JWs baptize in the name of the Father, Son and the Holy Spirit. I asked if it was done exactly as stated in the Bible to be sure I was hearing the answer correctly. The response I got was "yes!"

Is there ANY WAY POSSIBLE that a person who has been with the organization for over 30 years cannot know that JWs are not baptized as presented at Matt 28:19?

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I have made my decision

by Brother Mike in

i'm sure most of you have read bits and pieces of my story throughout the last year being on this site.

i've decided as a human being, and as an adult, i'm going to make the decision on whether to stay with the jw religion or leave it.

i of course have many doubts about the organization which has lead me to do research.

NeverKnew

Congratulations!

....For why should my liberty be determined by someone else's conscience?

Paul, 1 Corinthians 10:29b

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How Do You Come to Terms with Being Just One of the 7 Billion?

by will-be-apostate in

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friends

being a jw makes one feel special, no doubt.

when i found out ttatt i realized i'm not special at all.

i'm just one of the other 7 billion human beings who will live and die being nobody, the world will forget about them (and i'm not talking about relatives and friend), they didn't make anything special in their life, they didn't change the course of history, were not famous nor rich, didn't invent facebook, google or anything awesome, didn't have an article published in newscientist, had no imdb profil, not even a wiki page, didn't write a book etc.

NeverKnew

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