Posts by NeverKnew

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Status update and hello.

by Darkknight757 in

i haven't posted here in a few months and to be honest i haven't been lurking either.

i hope everyone is doing well.😊 i wanted to take a minute to let you know how things have been the last few months.. recently the brothers decided to finally consider my letter of resignation.

they met with me alone and i let them know why i have become inactive as a publisher and why i no longer wish to serve as an elder in the congregation.

NeverKnew

My heart sincerely goes out to you and your wife.

Im glad things are working out with your fade.

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Regional con program released jw.org shun again

by poopie in

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wow

NeverKnew

Good God.

It appears that this one is going to be a hatefest.

Wonder which will be worse... An African American at a Trump rally or a non-JW at this convention.

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JW Broadcasting: How to make memorial bread

by Gorbatchov in

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friends

i don't believe it, but it is on jw broadcasting: how to make memorial bread.. it is just like the 24/kitchen broadcasting.. http://tv.jw.org/#en/video/vodministry/pub-jwbrd_201603_2_video.

NeverKnew

Why learn how to make something only the mentally diseased and anointed can use?

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Hi Everyone. Answer to prayer countdown...

by Stumpy in

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friends

i've been lurking for about 3 months now and thought i'd better finally sign up.

you have all been an immense help to me as i have come to realize that this isn't the truth so i want to say a great big thank you!

what a crazy, emotional ride it is to finally face the truth about the doubts that i have carried for many years.

Please, tell me.

by andrewlya in

hi, i am a christian and i would like to know jehovas witness's belief in god and whether you believe jesus is god.

please, any statements back up with biblical verses,thank you and god bless, in jesus's name.. i am new on here, so please be patient with me :).

NeverKnew

Jehovah's Witnesses operate as witnesses of the Father, not the Son.

They also believe that Jesus already returned in 1914.

God only communicates with their leaders as they are the sole mouthpieces of God... unless they are on a Witness stand for a huge multi-million dollar pedophile case. Then that standard line becomes a "presumptuous" statement made by imperfect men in the Lord's perfect organization.

Only JWs will survive Armageddon. oh... unless you're a baptized JW who broke a rule such as not to smoke and were removed by 3 guys who also attended your services.

Despite the fact that there is nothing in the Scriptures about an Earthly resurrection, they are told repeatedly that everyone will be resurrected to Earth.

Christmas, Easter and every other holiday are evil.

I would recommend you visit www.jwfacts.com. That'll get you caught up.

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our secret dating got caught...

by trueloveneverfails94 in

we both are 21 years old.

i am almost done with my study and working on to become one of an unbaptized publisher.

NeverKnew

I gladly don't have any friends,family,and relatives that are witnesses who are going to shun me.

Truelove,

I'm a non-witness who has gone down the path you're going. I read the sentence above and I have to ask you - do those words, in any way, sound selfish? I think I can speak to you on a different level.

Sweetheart, you are coming from an environment where anything other than unconditional love is considered maniacal. You can make just about any decision you want and your loved ones can express their displeasure but will continue to love you, speak to you, interact with you and hope nothing but the best for you. YOU KNOW NOTHING ELSE. This is our norm. Should you discontinue this JW path, your family will appreciate your decision, but the notion of being welcomed back like the prodigal son in the Scriptures who physically left?... Little different for those of us who have nothing to lose. Social media, telecommunications devices etc allow us to remain in touch with family and YOUR FAMILY WON'T BE TOLD BY ANYONE TO ABANDON YOU. Given what I've read so far, I suspect that you wouldn't do so well if this happened to you.

When I applied the ramifications of failing to follow a rule and having NOBODY communicate with me for many years and quite possibly the rest of my life... I'm talking immediate family who you spent all of your formative 21 years with... I don't know about you, but I can't breathe. It sounds weird, but seriously, all we have is our imagination. Close your eyes and try to make it real.

I don't know where you are in their lesson plan, but putting yourself under this yoke for her sake and suffering together is not love. That little voice inside of you that's suggesting that something's not right is going to get louder as you continue down this road of oppression. I came to realize that what they do speaks so loudly that it's hard to hear what they're saying. One poster describes their actions as making weapons out of a person's loved ones. Is that the future you want for your family? Do you really want to co-sign onto that?

Do you even remember what truly unconditional love and support is from within a religious institution? I need for you to go back to where you were before subscribing to JWism and imagine how proud of your past you would be if you two could walk into a church - hand and hand, and get an opportunity to sit next to the girl of your dreams. You could proudly introduce her as your future wife. This would be followed by a "congratulations" and an immediate respect for the two of you being honest and the potential future of your relationship by those around you with a loving and supportive respect for the "arrangement" that you two are pursuing. I think you know she would collapse into the welcoming arms of the love, support and acceptance the two of you would receive.

Which environment seems more loving to you right now? Forget doctrine. Despite what you're being told - that's not God. Love is. Sincerely think about it. Which do you want to proudly offer people? The one you're pursuing or the one you've left?

Don't forget, he who the Son sets free is free indeed. She is not free - and right now, neither are you.

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The people are mobilizing Mr Drumpf

by Simon in

protesters shut down a trump rally.

massive numbers of people are out in chicago and have shut his event down.

there were scuffles inside the event.. despite his lame attempt to pretend the violence he instigates is nothing to do with him it's clear that it is as the cnn quotes during the last event showed only too well.. this doesn't happen at anyone else's events - candidates have even given up the stage to protesters, not called for them to be beaten and punched.. trump is an ugly person and this is just a small taste of what a future under his rule would be like.. shame on the gop for not kicking his ass out.

NeverKnew

The people that are mobilizing against Trump are a well orchestrated group.
minimus

Uh... no they weren't. They were a mixed bag of people who have become annoyed by Trump's bigotry. They were Latinos, African-Americans, Muslims, and women. This was no "well orchestrated" group. Their common bond was their sentiment for the spirit of Trump's campaign.

The Occupiers do this to make their statement.

That's called a protest. Yes, you have a right to express opinions and others have a right to disagree.

The "people" are not just the liberals of the world. There are many people that are simply fed up with the policies of the last 8 years.

Trump gamed you. I heard that spin yesterday.

Ask yourself a few questions:

Have people shown up with this level of rage at other rallies for any other candidate... Republican or Democrat?

Is that what they were screaming about? I don't remember one protester's sign saying anything about the policies of the last 8 years, jobs being transferred overseas to China and Mexico, or pay raises. Did you? My gosh Sweetheart, many of those in attendance appeared to be college-aged students. They didn't give a rats a$$ about China, Mexico, or a failure to have had a pay raise since the age of 9. It appeared that a decent percentage of the audience was under 26 years of age. I wonder how they feel about their health benefits?

In the last 7 years, Obama has signed less than 70 bills into law. Do you have any idea what's normal? Do you know how many bills are sitting on Harry Reid's desk? Do you know how many bills have been filibustered? Are you familiar with the American Jobs Act or the Infrastructure Bill that Republicans blocked?...

What about the Act that would have ended Offshoring and would have changed tax breaks for companies that pick up and take their business to other countries to keep jobs here?... or the Bring Jobs Home Act? ..or the Student Loan Reform Act? Are there any females you know and love (other than myself) who are being paid unfairly?... if so, what about the Equal Pay for Women Act?

Trump is using rhetoric to game you. The Republicans have stomped Obama's efforts to get things done even in the face of the goal being economically advantageous for the economy and America.

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The people are mobilizing Mr Drumpf

by Simon in

protesters shut down a trump rally.

massive numbers of people are out in chicago and have shut his event down.

there were scuffles inside the event.. despite his lame attempt to pretend the violence he instigates is nothing to do with him it's clear that it is as the cnn quotes during the last event showed only too well.. this doesn't happen at anyone else's events - candidates have even given up the stage to protesters, not called for them to be beaten and punched.. trump is an ugly person and this is just a small taste of what a future under his rule would be like.. shame on the gop for not kicking his ass out.

NeverKnew

Racism starts with people of a race doing bad things and others don't like it. Racism against blacks is because blacks have made the news more for crimes and violence and wearing their pants on the ground, etc.
- Rattigan350

This type of ignorance never ceases to amaze me.

So, now, to me, you're two for two in demonstrating an inability to keep from being drawn to insular belief systems.

in·su·lar

1.
ignorant of or uninterested in cultures, ideas, or peoples outside one's own experience.
"a stubbornly insular farming people"

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jw family loves to ask df'd ones for money!

by Ghiagirl in

well it finally happened!

we have been waiting about a year for this, my dfd husbands family asked us for money.

even though his own father hasn't met our 8 month old son.

NeverKnew

"Are you saying Jehovah hasn't provided enough for you? Wow, I'm really sorry to hear that. I hope things turn around for you. I will pray for you. See you guys some other time!"

(Turn to spouse and start to walk away while saying)

"Honey, we really need to be grateful for all we've been given."

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Closer/death/Funerals

by Leela1 in

hello all i am fairly new to this site even though i have been da since i was 16 years old i am now 35 years old.

i have had very little contact with my family since i left maybe a handful of times over the years.

i thought i put the past behind me and moved on i have 4 amazing kids of my own really supportive partner and great friends who have become my family.

NeverKnew

I am absolutely mortified by his selfish behavior. My heart is broken thinking about your wandering in the world by yourself. A post I read recently described the WTS as the institution that makes weapons out of your very own family. I totally agree.

Nonetheless, it sounds like your Dad was insanely cruel to you and I can't help but blame the WTS. I can't see how everybody failed to recognize this for what it was - mental and emotional abuse.

I'm so very proud of what you've accomplished in spite of your upbringing.

On forgiveness, typically I am able to forgive once I have something to which I can attach the behavior. In this case it'd be the WTS. If you've truly forgiven? I'd say go tell him with your head held high, "I've come to say goodbye to you and to let you know I've forgiven you Good luck to you, Dad."

For me, that'd be it. I wouldn't do the funeral.