It seems that its only here in the good old US of A that the JW's act like they are not paying for the books magazines and so forth, simply because of tax's.
What's my Point? Its this: I never thought that true religion should ever charge for books and all the other, if its really Gods true group then he will pay for it, is that stupid? Not if he is really is with a particular religion, if God can sustain the universe are you going to tell me he can't give away vital information to humans? I posed that to an Elder once, he said, "Well somebody's got to pay for it you unreasonable one !! In the coinage of the Witness's "religion is snare and a racket. They pomp how powerful God is, yet they shame you if you don't give them money, face it if there truly is a God surely he can provide for those searching for him, if not then your in the wrong teaching !!!! Amen praise the Lord. Shane
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by Shane init seems that its only here in the good old us of a that the jw's act like they are not paying for the books magazines and so forth, simply because of tax's.
what's my point?
its this: i never thought that true religion should ever charge for books and all the other, if its really gods true group then he will pay for it, is that stupid?
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Stand firm, my ass!
by Kent inin military base of karadjordjevo there were 14 conscientious objectors before the escalation of war in march.
twelve of them were nazarenes or jehovah's witnesses and two which did not declare religiously.
they were working on "non-military" tasks but on military premises and for the benefit of the army.
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As I thinnk back on my marriage I can see now that the teachings of the Witness's caused a lot of strife, my ex-wife would critasize my prayers, my family study, my comments at the meetings the intire scope of our marrage was undermineed by "how a man should preside over his household taking the lead, woman who are witness's hold that over a husbands head. She used to say to me go read about "bride price that the bible talks about, because I did not earn a lot of money.
All of this amunition was supplyed by the witness litature. The intire life stile of the witness's is NOT relistic its a fantasy.
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Anointed Christians throughout 2,000 years
by ozziepost inthis is the view as found in the latest magazine:.
"for almost 2,000 years, that peace has been enjoyed by faithful anointed members of the body of christ.
" (the watchtower september 1, 2001, page 14, paragraph 3).
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OK "AS IF FIRE" Again the point is there is no manifestation that God Jehovah, or Jesus is with the 144000 to either make it plainly evident to them self's or to others, that they are who they claim to be. One would think such an important assignment as this would have some sort of backing to indicate some assurance that they are real, to them self's and more importantly to those who put such trust in them.
I guess that is why I have become so disillusioned with religion is that they make big boasts and put on such airs as to there righteousness and that they have Gods backing. In every instance I have ever read in the bible, or just plain horse sense dictates that proof should be evident. We truly are like puppets, or Borgs drones, believe it or die, do it or die, where is God in all of this?
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Can anyone help me?
by aud8 incan anyone out there ease my mind?
i am about to disassociate myself and feel so scared.
what if i'm making the wrong decision?
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Can anyone out there ease my mind? I am about to disassociate myself and feel so scared. What if I'm making the wrong decision? Will it be worse for me at armageddon? What do I do when I am "out"? I feel so alone. I will miss my only two good friends in the cong. Will Satan have fair prey on me now? Its a very hard thing to do.
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First Audrey, you can now meet new friends, and God is NOT going kill you dear. If all you got is two friends at the Kingdom Hall then that's sad, there are a lot of nice humans on this earth. Don't be afraid of Armageddon, let God be your judge, no man is able to do that contrary to what they say, Jehovah and Jesus is the judge Jehovah's witness's are a harsh group they are not for the meek and mild they only swallow them, get out and live your life now. -
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My Story
by Commie Chris inive been lurking hear for a few weeks.
heres my story:.
i was raised in a catholic family in toronto and went to catholic schools until grade 9 (age 13).
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I received a head trauma, then my wife left me for a child sex abuser, then they difellowshiped me for touching a woman of the opposite sex, then they would not tell me about the child sex abuser that accosted my 12 year old, that my ex-wife married knowing he was of this stature. All I can say is all is not well in Zion. Shane
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childhood and the watchtower
by 4christ ini am not a jw but....... when i was a child my mother was a "searcher".
she was involved with armstrongism, some other cult i cant remember the name, and finally jws.
she would take me with her to "bible studies" and i would listen.
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I have memories of standing for the flag salute, and setting for the national anthem, many times I was spit on and my hair pulled out hit kicked at a very young age, I survived but that's not the point.
Many people died for not obtaining a political party card in an African County, or snubbed for voting, these two things they seem to have changed their views on. Being a Jehovah's Witness's was everything to me, it was my life, for most all of my life because I was raised as one. I felt proud to be abused for then what I believed, but you know I did not know anything else, I did not know what I know now, I should have! the Internet is a blessing, it has allowed countless numbers of people to learn new things in many different fields, not just about JW's but many facts that others wise would be hidden. A great revolution is taking place at this time, its a release of the mind from controlling manipulating groups be it government or religions.
Don't be afraid to speak out, many before this time had NO way to let their pain out, free of charge. Praise God, now is the time for release. <> Shane -
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Family and its importance
by Shane indisfellowshiping or ex-comunication puts great strain on family members, it has been successfully used by other religious groups jehovah's witness's are no exception.
any group or government that can successfully put a wedge between family members is a threat to the whole family of man.. by using such phrases or reasons as: its for their own good or its being done cause we love them, or we wakening them to their senses, are simply rationalizing their actions.. think about this: monkeys shun at times one of their own, but the one shunned most of the time dies from it; are we higher than monkeys in love?
humans also die if shunned or become mentally sick depressed to the point of at times taking their own life, because if one has been a witness or other shunning group for all or most of their life who is now a support group for them?
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I thought this was good what my brothere and I was discusing a while ago. The more people that become aware of what this cult organization is doing to the most sacred and fundamental institution, FAMILY. Perhaps it will keep the innocent from getting traped, and have there family destroyed. It HAS BEEN 22 YEARS FOR ME. AND SISTERS, AND SCORES OF RELATIVES HAVE SHUNNED ME. MOST NOT KNOWING ANYTHING ABOUT MY TRUMPED UP CHARGES. ALL BECAUSE THEY ARE TOLD TO, BY THE CULTS MASTERS. There needs to be a cry! WORLD WIDE, to let the world know how damaging this group is to
the scared family unit. ALL THOSE THAT HAVE BEEN SHUNNED LET THE WORLD KNOW WHAT THIS GROUP WILL DO TO THERE FAMILIES [why protect the family from pedophiles or the blood issue which is very important. If the family it self is replaced with blind LOYALTY.] I cannot think of any rational argument to
be given by JW"S to justify this cruel action. Other than control of the
people. THEY DON'T BELIEVE IN HELL. SO SHUNNING IS BEST TOOL TO THREATEN THERE MEMBERS IN SUBMISSION.I can't agree more, my brother. God is the original maker of the family unit, if he hates a divorceing" reasoning dictates he would also hate this practice too.
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Anointed Christians throughout 2,000 years
by ozziepost inthis is the view as found in the latest magazine:.
"for almost 2,000 years, that peace has been enjoyed by faithful anointed members of the body of christ.
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Again, not to belabor the issue, but as can be seen from the message below, it again is one persons inner feelings and the whole family of man as it were is to have the utmost confidence in his or her profound subliminal feelings that they somehow have been notified by the supreme being to be rulers with Christ in heaven. While in the apostles day such things were evident, case in point Christ proved himself to be the messiah by his fulfillment of prophesy, and miracles.
In pentecost there were flames of fire on the heads of those in the room, and so on.IN REPLY TO:
The feeling is not vague:
Rom 8:15-17
15 For you did not receive a spirit that makes you a slave again to fear, but you received the spirit of sonship. And by him we cry, "Abba, Father." 16 The Spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are God's children.Gal 4:6-7
6 Because you are sons, God sent the Spirit of his Son into our hearts, the Spirit who calls out, "Abba, Father."Mark 14:36
36 "Abba, Father," he said,1 John 3:1-2
The reason the world does not know us is that it did not know him.pomegranate
My point is with such a weighty responsibility for such a position as out line by the Witness's where is substantial evidence as a divine source, a reasonable man would see none, whereas even the non Christians inn Christ's time could see what was really from God.
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I'm a new study, unsure a little uncertain. Help??
by Meow921 ini recently started doing some studying of jehovahs witnesses, and i find most everything so logical, and the people involved have been so nice to me.
i'm 30, and currently am not associated with any denomination.. what i don't understand is how the word "cross" got translated into the bible if it's not right.
aren't we supposed to believe the bible?.
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I have been a Witness until recently for twenty five years, this I have come to know too sadly, that the organization watches their own behind when it comes to legal matters, And if you become disfellowshiped you will be alone in a world that they try very hard to make you apart from, so all of the sudden your a lone, even your kids or family members (sisters brothers) can't talk to you, can you endure that, it may happen to you or it may not; its there form of punishment no matter what they say, I am telling you straight as one human to another, God does not think like this, and can you imagine Jesus Shunning any of his sinfull disciples and they surely were at times.
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Anointed Christians throughout 2,000 years
by ozziepost inthis is the view as found in the latest magazine:.
"for almost 2,000 years, that peace has been enjoyed by faithful anointed members of the body of christ.
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Anointed Christians, please inform me someone how can anyone can accurately know if they are of this unique group, Witness's have very little to tell them if they are of this group. A personal feeling, a dream, a vision; really when so much hangs in the balance such as decisions concerning people they do not even know, sometimes it even take on life or death, yet these people have very little to prove that they are Gods chosen ones only a vague feeling. Would any of you put your life in the hands of an Attorney or a Doctor who had only vague feeling on their convictions?