Posts by Tallon

one point that i have not seen discussed is "why" apostates are getting these videos.. are videos getting out because of a lack of internal controls, or are there more than a few disloyal insiders that are more than happy to pass on inside information.

or, is there a strategic intent of releasing leaked videos?.

Tallon

Are videos getting out because of a lack of internal controls, or are there more than a few disloyal insiders that are more than happy to pass on inside information ...

My guess would be a combination of the above.

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JWs at the Movies

by Wake Me Up Before You Jo-Ho in

so i was watching some of the dramas screened at the be courageous convention, and one caught my eye.. it's the scene where a group of jw teens are watching something deemed as "sinful" at the movie theaters.

there were only sound effects, so i decided to fill in the blanks.. https://vimeo.com/275184883.

bottom line: machine guns = bad.

Tallon

Great post, JoHo.

I think the videos that are being produced and broadcast at these conventions are becoming more and more ridiculous.

First the 'Bunker' video, and now a major 'SWAT' team confronting them in a forest.

Sheer paranoia!

PS: isn't it ironic that the very imagery they condemn in 'worldly' films such as violence, fear and terror - they now incorporate in their videos.

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You won't believe this ... Jehovah's rich blessing has befallen me !!!

by dubstepped in

jw
friends

my dad died a couple years back (not how you thought this would start, i know).

he was an elder, and a very emotionally abusive father, well before the point where he ever shunned me.

he died pretty much penniless, and never would buy life insurance or anything.

Tallon

Great news dubstepped!

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Disfellowshiped- reinstated- damaged

by Damaged in

don’t know how i ended up here but no one who understands will listen, or any one who will listen doesn’t understand.

i grew up in the “truth”, i was baptised at 17 as it was encouraged by the elders.

i really didn’t understand what i was getting into.

Tallon

Hi Damaged

Welcome to the forum. You certainly have been, and are, going through a torrid time.

Excellent advice has been given and use from it what will be most beneficial to your situation.

Just remember that the folk on this forum will always be here to offer support and guidance, and will listen when you feel the need to vent your frustration(s).

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NWT 1984 vs NWT 2013

by Tallon in

i recently had a discussion with a jw concerning a change in wording of a scripture - in fact this was my all time favourite scripture, namely, micah 6:8.. my view is that the wtbts have deliberately changed the wording and meaning of the said scripture.

the other person is of the opinion that that is not the case.

micah 6:8.

Tallon

Thanks for your posts folks.

I'll definitely have to research this further.

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NWT 1984 vs NWT 2013

by Tallon in

i recently had a discussion with a jw concerning a change in wording of a scripture - in fact this was my all time favourite scripture, namely, micah 6:8.. my view is that the wtbts have deliberately changed the wording and meaning of the said scripture.

the other person is of the opinion that that is not the case.

micah 6:8.

Tallon

I recently had a discussion with a JW concerning a change in wording of a scripture - in fact this was my all time favourite scripture, namely, Micah 6:8.

My view is that the WTBTS have deliberately changed the wording and meaning of the said scripture. The other person is of the opinion that that is not the case.

Micah 6:8

1984 translation reads; "He has told you, O earthling man, what is good. And what is Jehovah asking back from you but to exercise justice and to love kindness and to be modest in walking with your God."

2013 translation (Silver Sword) reads; "He has told you, O man, what is good. And what is Jehovah requiring of you? Only to exercise justice, to cherish loyalty, And to walk modesty with your God!

So I'm asking what is your view? Am I right, or is the other person right?

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"Isn't this the BEST convention - EVER?" :-O

by Fay Dehr in

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Tallon

Sammy: ... Hey Mark bro, we've got the best seats in the house

Mark: ... yeah, and all the suckers are paying for it ... lol.

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A & E documentary - family fall-out

by Tallon in

just seen this on exjw reddit - sickening beyond belief!.

long story short, we have not seen hubbys non identical twin nephews (jeremey and jerome) since we gave the middle finger to the jw's 7 or 8 years ago.

we last saw our nephews when they were 9 or 10ish.

Tallon

Thank you to all for your responses and personal experiences. It really is a sad state of affairs that a supposedly 'religious organisation' can have such a detrimental affect on family life.

UPDATE: This is how a church is supposed to work.

Thank you everyone for your support.

I have no idea how the hell the lawyer from our UU congregation did it, I feel like the fewer questions we ask right now, the better.

But our day started at 5:30am with him calling us at home telling us we needed to be at the county courthouse with boys by 7:30am (hour drive for us) because we had an emergency court hearing in front of a family court judge. Hubby tried asking him what the hell, it hasn't even been 24 hours and Alan simply told him "when your in the court with 8-10 hours a day with different judges, you know who to ask for help when something like this comes up." Not looking a gift horse in the mouth....we went. We were the 2nd/3rd case called up, and hubby and I spilled everything from the last 24 hours and we walked out with Judge signed legal guardianship papers.

By the time the four of us, still kinda shell shocked, pull up at home-The kids (our 12 and 10 year old) were sitting in the living room with our pastor and a couple others from church ready to ask us what room were the boys going to be staying in and they were willing to help us move shit out/around. We hadn't thought that far ahead, but once we told them we'd love the basement fixed up for them (unlike the guest room they slept in last night, it does have a couple windows down there) and now...10 members from our church are here, hauling shit out to the dump, cleaning and vaccuming.

Hubby and I are calling a couple furniture stores to get them a beds (should be delivered late this afternoon) and we might have found a couple dressers at a local thrift store, and a desk for them. As soon as a couple folks get back with the last load to the dump with a pickup truck, we're going to meet them over at the thrift store to see about the dressers and a couple other pieces of furniture.

One of the members of church, a foster parent-got in touch with her contacts after finding out what sizes the twins wear-will be back in about 20 minutes or so with at least 3 or 4 large trash bags of very gently loved clothing for us to go through to see what fits/doesn't fit.

We've already got a phone call that has set up meeting with the DSHS regarding TANF and snap benefits tomorrow afternoon (another thing that happened WAY faster than we thought it would, but we're not going to ask the how right now, just show up with all the paper work in hand.)

Meanwhile, we've got two 17 year old boys sitting in our living room, shell shocked. They both commented last year when a sister's house caught on fire and she needed help getting everything cleaned up, unless she paid them they weren't going to lift a finger-and here they are, with an aunt and uncle that hasn't seen them in almost a decade, who belong to a UU congregation...who are bending over back wards to help strangers....

I gave them both hugs and said "Boys....what your seeing here....that's how a Church is supposed to work. We help each other out."

It's taking a while...hubby is playing phone tag with his health insurance company to get the boys added on so we can get a referral to a therapist for them. While I have the better insurance, it sadly only covers me (sucks, I know)

Meanwhile, hubby has tried to reach out to his brother. Our pastor had a hard time believing they would just toss the boys out like that...but once his brother and sister in law were put on speaker phone and he heard them rash talk their own boys (and me, and our kids....) using very colorful language.....lets just say the pastor and the few church members who heard it were like "Yea...be glad your here...not there..."

https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/8nivc2/update_family_issuesthis_is_how_a_church_is/