Surely Hebrews 12 : 11 is talking about God's discipline, not man's.
Though of course to them it's the same thing .
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Posts by jhine
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13Sept. 21 watchtower-your disfellowshipped kids aren't your fault
by joey jojo inlatest advice for jw parents: if your kids get disfellowshipped, fight the urge to blame yourself.
yes, great advice.
if your clueless, underage child is struggling in life, don't blame yourself, stop thinking about it and move on.
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If you could pick out critical errors to the JWS religion what would it be ?
by Rocketman123 inmany that have come to this forum have left the jws religion and moved on with their lives but from a outsider's viewpoint what do think makes the jws religion wrong or incorrect as a active christian faith ?.
somethings come to mind such as its long continuous end times/armageddon soon doctrine which has really been a core doctrine for decades going right back to its beginning .. maybe they should have adopted the stance as other christian based faiths and adhered to jesus's own words when he said " no one knows of the time not even he ".
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jhine
Shunning is not a Christian way of doing things . Paul does say not to eat with Christian's who go wrong. This probably means do not share the Bread and Wine with them as this was commonly done during a shared meal .
As far as l am aware it doesn't say anywhere in the Bible to treat such people like lepers .
The WT simply uses this tactic to control it's members .
False prophecies , flip flops on doctrine , as has already been said there is too much to mention .
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Invitation
by jhine ini just received a hand written envelope through the post containing an invitation to the online 2021 convenient.
i'm in staffs in the uk .
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jhine
Cheers FFGhost . 😁. Very helpful.
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Invitation
by jhine ini just received a hand written envelope through the post containing an invitation to the online 2021 convenient.
i'm in staffs in the uk .
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jhine
FFGhost , that's just what happened- not 😂 . I don't know what a ball peen hammer is , do they cost much ?
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Invitation
by jhine ini just received a hand written envelope through the post containing an invitation to the online 2021 convenient.
i'm in staffs in the uk .
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jhine
It was addressed to The Householder , not to me personally. No l don't have any JW family , l think that maybe this could be ' getting time in ' .
IWant2Leave that sounds about right .
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Invitation
by jhine ini just received a hand written envelope through the post containing an invitation to the online 2021 convenient.
i'm in staffs in the uk .
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jhine
I just received a hand written envelope through the post containing an invitation to the online 2021 convenient. Has anyone else had one of these ? I'm in Staffs in the UK .
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Having It Both Ways
by Sea Breeze in1. when individuals leave the organization for conscience reasons, it is evidence that god is shepherding and protecting the flock by doing a sifting work.
when people leave another christian religion it is evidence that the religion is morally corrupt and unable or unwilling to provide spiritually for their members.. 2. when a christian from another denomination lies, he is acting according to his own disposition being from the father of the lie.
when a jehovah's witness lies, he is proving his loyalty to jehovah and fulfilling his sacred obligation to engage in spiritual warfare.. 3. during times of rapid growth the organization claims this is evidence of gods approval as he "speeds it up in his own time".
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jhine
Truth_b_known that's brilliant . He would definitely liven up any Evensong service
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Bill Gates Foundation
by jhine inhi everyone , how are ya'll ?
l have a question particularly for any americans on here .
l have an american friend from la who has recently been trying very hard to investigate bill gates and his foundation , she has shared quotes from a lot people making very serious accusations against bill .
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jhine
Thanks nonjw.
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Having It Both Ways
by Sea Breeze in1. when individuals leave the organization for conscience reasons, it is evidence that god is shepherding and protecting the flock by doing a sifting work.
when people leave another christian religion it is evidence that the religion is morally corrupt and unable or unwilling to provide spiritually for their members.. 2. when a christian from another denomination lies, he is acting according to his own disposition being from the father of the lie.
when a jehovah's witness lies, he is proving his loyalty to jehovah and fulfilling his sacred obligation to engage in spiritual warfare.. 3. during times of rapid growth the organization claims this is evidence of gods approval as he "speeds it up in his own time".
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jhine
All good points .
Do JWs know the scripture that says that Satan is the father of ALL lies, l wonder
As someone in a church with paid clergy l can testify that they don't " lord it " over people . In fact l always get the impression that JWs are much more scared of their Elders , Overseers etc than l am of my vicar, which I'm not .
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Bill Gates Foundation
by jhine inhi everyone , how are ya'll ?
l have a question particularly for any americans on here .
l have an american friend from la who has recently been trying very hard to investigate bill gates and his foundation , she has shared quotes from a lot people making very serious accusations against bill .
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jhine
So now it does seem , according to evidence from " reputable " sources , that Bill is not the nice guy that he appears to be . I put reputable in quotes because l am getting very confused about who can and can't be trusted .
I do still wonder why the larger media groups in countries other than USA , like our BBC , haven't picked up on any of this . Or does he own that too ? Yes some sarcasm there because his enemies would have us all believe that he rules the world .
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