Posts by jhine

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Why did Paul call Jesus, “the firstborn from the dead”?

by Doug Mason in

"jesus christ was resurrected on nisan 16, 33 c.e., the day when the jewish high priest offered up the firstfruits of the barley harvest.

this fits in accurately with jesus' being the "firstfruits" in the resurrection of the human dead.

(1 cor.

jhine

Phizzy , l have given this some thought and done a lot of Googling and tbh l can't find anything to explain exactly how in a practical way sin came into the world , the actual mechanics of it .

Jan

53

the gaping hole in this week's weak wt study.

by waton in

for pimi pimo persons: give us one text that says those aspiring to everlasting life should not partake of the bread and wine.

in the article, the whole proposition of refusing the emblems is based on the personal experience of one brother in the 1930s.!

all jws partook.

AstraZeneca Vaccine For Canadians

by Vanderhoven7 in

the usa is "selling" us canadians huge shipments of the astrazeneca vaccine.

i wonder why they ordered them in the first place if they are not needed in the us.. http://sciencenorway.no/covid19/norwegian-experts-say-deadly-blood-clots-were-caused-by-the-astrazeneca-covid-vaccine/1830510.

jhine

Well here in the UK our vaccination programme is well ahead of any others. I am 65 and am due to have my second jab on Friday. I haven't heard of any problems caused by the vaccines .

The Astra Zeneca does seem to make people feel a bit rough for 24 hours ( l experienced that after my first jab) .

However l haven't heard of any other issues

Jan

53

the gaping hole in this week's weak wt study.

by waton in

for pimi pimo persons: give us one text that says those aspiring to everlasting life should not partake of the bread and wine.

in the article, the whole proposition of refusing the emblems is based on the personal experience of one brother in the 1930s.!

all jws partook.

jhine

I totally agree that everyone should partake in the Bread and Wine .

I still don't see this 2 hope teaching as valid. The quote from Revelation says specifically 12.000 from each tribe . And no one has commented on the Great Crowd , who are in front of the Throne

Jan

53

the gaping hole in this week's weak wt study.

by waton in

for pimi pimo persons: give us one text that says those aspiring to everlasting life should not partake of the bread and wine.

in the article, the whole proposition of refusing the emblems is based on the personal experience of one brother in the 1930s.!

all jws partook.

jhine

So JWs stop at verse 8 in Rev ch 7 . What about verses 9- 17 ?

It it's true that some have one hope and others a different hope why didn't Jesus say " This teaching is for those with the heavenly hope and this teaching is for the others " ?

Also verses 5 - 8 make it clear that the 144 , 000 are Jews that have been saved . So how can any JWs be part of the heavenly hope ?

Jan

53

the gaping hole in this week's weak wt study.

by waton in

for pimi pimo persons: give us one text that says those aspiring to everlasting life should not partake of the bread and wine.

in the article, the whole proposition of refusing the emblems is based on the personal experience of one brother in the 1930s.!

all jws partook.

jhine

As a non JW l get very confused about this 2nd class teaching.

Is there actually a difference between eternal life , immortality etc ? Where did that distinction come from ?

I don't know of any other denomination that has that teaching . It has always seemed to me that's another ploy by the GB to keep that distance between them and the r&f .

Jan

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AstraZeneca Vaccine For Canadians

by Vanderhoven7 in

the usa is "selling" us canadians huge shipments of the astrazeneca vaccine.

i wonder why they ordered them in the first place if they are not needed in the us.. http://sciencenorway.no/covid19/norwegian-experts-say-deadly-blood-clots-were-caused-by-the-astrazeneca-covid-vaccine/1830510.

jhine

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When You Were A Witness Did You Believe Everything Taught?

by minimus in

jw
friends

obviously at some point you stopped believing the witnesses had the truth or else you wouldn’t be here.

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but for the most part, were you a true believer or were you typically a rebel or a doubter?

jhine

Wow Ding , sooo not true . As you know obviously .

Jan

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Why did Paul call Jesus, “the firstborn from the dead”?

by Doug Mason in

"jesus christ was resurrected on nisan 16, 33 c.e., the day when the jewish high priest offered up the firstfruits of the barley harvest.

this fits in accurately with jesus' being the "firstfruits" in the resurrection of the human dead.

(1 cor.

jhine

Sea Breeze , you are correct , l have never been a JW . I am a life long Anglican .

I came onto this forum when l started to find out a bit about the Watchtower and l wanted to get ideas about how to counter witness .

Phizzy, yes many Christians do see the A+E story as metaphorical. I remembered reading something about A+E in Jewish theology. A bit of Googling found this.

" Adam is not just the name of the first human . It is the name of all humanity. In Scripture the word ' man " has four appellations, one of them being Adam . The other three are ish , enosh and gever . In particular the word Adam is used to describe a person with advanced intellectual capacities .

The fact that Adam and Eve's children found people to marry would kinda indicate that there were other people around ! .

As to original sin l have thought about it and the short answer is " no , I can't at the moment give an explanation "

I think of like an IT wizz ( God) creating a perfect programme ( our genes )and a rival putting a virus into it .

That is no help to anyone else l know : ) .

And as to how it actually happened l don't know. However l am going to look at other people's thoughts about it .

Jan

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Why did Paul call Jesus, “the firstborn from the dead”?

by Doug Mason in

"jesus christ was resurrected on nisan 16, 33 c.e., the day when the jewish high priest offered up the firstfruits of the barley harvest.

this fits in accurately with jesus' being the "firstfruits" in the resurrection of the human dead.

(1 cor.

jhine

I have always understood that verse to mean that Jesus died for our sins , each and every individual.

I don't really get what the WT means by putting Adam into the mix . To me the Bible says that we are all born into sin

Jan.