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  Ambushed!!!!! Fam'ly Intervention!

  by sd-7 in

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  last night, i went to my parents' house to wash clothes--or so i thought.

  apparently, someone's been talking.

  so...i get slammed for listening to people on the internet.

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  problemaddict

  Wow SD-7. You called it!!!

  Thanks for resurrecting htis for the newbies. I wasn't around 2 years ago. i was doing half twist summersaults into the kool aid pool.
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  What is the most out of line / disturbing experience you have seen from Circuit Overseers?

  by Poindexter Lionel Humperdique in

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  i once heard of a circuit overseer blaming a loyal ministerial servant, that served as the accounts servant, of steeling from the contribution boxes, simply because he deposited the congregation funds bi-weekly instead of twice a week.

  due to the accusation, the ms was immediately removed without hearing his side of the story.

  isn't this rather counter-intuitive and innefficient?

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  problemaddict

  Somebody mentioned Angelo Manera. That guy was a piece of work. He pretty much only referred to the organization as "mother" and wanted you to do the same. He actually taught my buddies pioneer school. The thought that that guy with his attitude towards others is teaching the new crop of CO's is reason enough to worry.

  In California they send the old guys out here to die or retire. So on the one hand, we get guys that are kind of disengaged, tired, and don't like to make waves. On the other hand, heavy handed elders can run amuck.

  Great stories you guys.
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  Visited Beth Sarim today

  by exwhyzee in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  my sister in law has been shunned by the family since she da'd herself at the age of 18 and moved out of the house.

  i always insisted that my wife keep in contact with her and made sure she knew she had a soft place to land,with us, should she need it.

  even at the risk of it getting us in hot water with the pioneer,elder,bethelite family members there was no way we were going to let her disappear into the wild blue yonder on her own.

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  problemaddict

  It has been bought and sold a couple of times. i saw an older couple there when i went by.
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  So where is all this supposed worldwide persecution of Jehovah's Witnesses?

  by Reality79 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  for years, it was drummed into our heads that the whole world lies in the hands of the wicked one who hates us and a result, mankind particularly hates the jws with a passion.. now that i think about it, i've seen very little evidence of that.

  i mean yes, in places like malawi, germany and some other countries the witnesses have been through real persecution - not the type that the average dub would call it like doors being slammed in the face.

  but what have they experienced that many other religions in other countries haven't?

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  problemaddict

  JW's are in fact persecuted. They are just not persecuted more than others. Much of the persecution from their fellow protestant or cathic based religions, happened earlier in the 20th century, and in many catholic countries can still happen on a small scale.

  JW's have been beheaded in the Phillipines. JW's are not given equal treatment in some eastern block countries.

  I know what youare saying......that it is a drum beat that doesn't sync to anything. I agree. But there is persecution. It just isn't only for JW's. in other words, this supposed proof of God's favor (attack from Satan or what have you) applies to many many other religions.
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  Sickening Dilemma

  by ItsMyLife in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i would like to have your opinions on what i should do about a situation please.. i have recently discovered that a 'brother' in the congregation (which i no longer attend) is a child molester.

  i've seen documentation from his psychiatrist dated a few years ago, stating that he doesn't feel that this person is likely to offend again.

  the 'brother' has said to the elders at some point that he has it under control but cannot be 100% sure it won't happen again.

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  problemaddict

  I agree with telling the police. let me add just a couple tidbits.

  1) Tell the police NOW. Also tell them who knows, and about the secret file and where it is that proves this.

  2) Police can only investigate a crime. So if he has "urges" but hasn't acted, it can be a hard sell.

  3) Tell the sister. Tell her NOW. Do not assume she knows. Tell her what you saw and why and how. Especially if you don't care about the hall, think of those kids.
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  Visited Beth Sarim today

  by exwhyzee in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  my sister in law has been shunned by the family since she da'd herself at the age of 18 and moved out of the house.

  i always insisted that my wife keep in contact with her and made sure she knew she had a soft place to land,with us, should she need it.

  even at the risk of it getting us in hot water with the pioneer,elder,bethelite family members there was no way we were going to let her disappear into the wild blue yonder on her own.

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  Hey I live right around the corner too. Should have gotten a burger around the corner from there.

  Beth Sarim is privately owned, and the owners are aware of the history, don't care, and do not like it when you ask them for a tour.

  Rattigan,

  Your comment is startling. How is a mansion built for resurrected princes of the earth that the President of the religion summers in not newsworthy? I mean.......I am not sure that even needs explanation.
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  For the Faders...

  by Kool Jo in

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  this is for my fellow faders...just checking to see how it is going for ya'll?.

  i know it can be tough...my fade has been going well thus far...hopefully it remains the same!.

  people may think of you differently...as being distracted...no longer loving jehovah...giving in to the world ect.... now i couldn't care less what any of them think of me...i went into town a few days go where some jw's were doing street work at the local market and i walked by them like they never even existed .

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  Funny you should ask. So far so good. I cannot move, and am well known in my area, but so far it hasn't impacted anything. Friends and family all know I am not attending. Many don't like it, but so far nobody is treating me different. In fact, I have been able to get a couple peple thinking. All very carefully of course. The most important being my wife.

  The elders aren't really interested in engaging me. They know they are probably outmatched, and my situation is well known here, along with a railroading to get me removed. I just think they are tired. So people are nice and if I happen to be around they are extra friendly. But I don't really say boo, and they don't really ask. Mind you its only been 5-6 months, so I anticipate some blowback. but thanks to advise here, they won't get anything out of me. I am maybe blessed to have fairly reasonable people in my life?
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  Were/Are you and Elder, MS, CO, Bethelite, etc.? (Please check in here)

  by El_Guapo in

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  i'm sure alot of you have noticed, the influx of new jwn members with "postitions within the cong" this is amazing, i myself am still an m.s.

  working to get removed.

  lol my wife (who has been really supportive throughout my fade) asked my why i am doing i decided to fade?.

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  problemaddict

  Pyramid, you have a PM.

  I was an MS, need greater in foreign countries, was in a domestic foreign language hall, parts on the assembly, pioneer on and off. Wife pioneered for 15 years straight. Started when she was 13.

  I remember an elder once questioning her about her time or some crap. She was very sensative and started crying. I see my wife and asked her who was on the phone. I took the phone, it was brother dumba$$. I asked him what he was talking to my wife about, and does his wife know he is calling and speaking to married women. I told him he never speaks to my wife without me present, and she is coming off the list because she has "lost her joy".

  That was a few years ago. My doubts in things like blood, the GB, df'ing, and some other things had taken hold. I thought i could effect good inside by being a voice of reason. I am a pretty good speaker, and refused to teach what i did not believe in. That was my justification. Once I realized that no matter what, my "performance" would just be a feather in the cap of the GB directing the work, I had a bad conscience. Then I had a nasty run in with an elder who moved in. I think I was already kind of done, so I just let em have it. Caught them in lies, embarrased them in front of the CO, but by then the rails had fallen off. I was removed. Left the hall, still got harrassed. 1 year later, I stopped going to meetings and started thinking for myself. Been inactive for 6 months.
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  New members who are still active, what do you think?

  by OccupyJehovahsWitnesses in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hey everybody!

  i was curious, as i've seen several new members on the board who are still active, what do you think about the topics you see on here?.

  i'm very interested to know what your experience has been like, finding the site, signing up, engaging in conversations.

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  problemaddict

  Well, I relate to some and not to others. I am more out than in, but it is still new, and my wife/family/friends are in and I am trying to retain them. As I no longer find myself justifying falsehood taught in the name of God in any form, i have no problem calling a duck a duck. I will not be counted, turn in time, or support the organization that I would say has lost its way, if we didn't start out of the crazy gate on full blast to begin with.

  I understand there is good in the group, but so goes life. I have problems with Blood, Disfellowshipping, enforcement of doctrine, the doctrine of the GB.......not so much with military stocks, UN/NGO stuff, and some other things people here get hot under the collar about.

  So to each their own. I still believe in God, but I also believe in reason. I suppose I am trying to combine the two. In the meantime, I just want to slowly help those I care about wake up.

  To live a life that is not authentic, is to live in prison. I now life a more authentic life, but its not where I should be. Integrity is no longer just a word to me.
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  Give me good honest reasons why you will ..............

  by Phizzy in

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  attend the memorial this year..

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  problemaddict

  Man that is a good question. My fade began 5 months ago so I haven't thought about this. I suppose I will go, because I am not 100% sure of what Ibelieve yet other than the WT organization is just another end times religion and doesn't represent God.

  I think if I did not go, it would start a higher level against me. Right now I am probably considered weak, and I have made clear I am not immoral, secretly sinning, or disavowing God. So far so good.

  But if I don't go to Memorial, I think it will start a mess. i think at that point people figure you have turned on God, and i could ramp up some aggretion against me that I wouldn't want. Plus I could make my wife upset.

  Not sure. I don't want to contribute to the number that is touted.