Well done. We didn't even know how we sounded at one point in our lives eh CAA?
At least that the way I feel now. I read some things, or speak with a JW, and I have no not blurt out "do you reallize how bat$#it you sound right now?"
about 10 minutes ago a neighbor asked me about a friend who is a witness and said at one of their church meetings it said that they can only seperate under extreme abuse not just abuse.. i have not been to a meeting in a long time and i do not know aboput this or if it is true.
does anyone know what article this was in so i can print it and give it to them.
they are highlyy upset by this and i want to stoke the fire.
Well done. We didn't even know how we sounded at one point in our lives eh CAA?
At least that the way I feel now. I read some things, or speak with a JW, and I have no not blurt out "do you reallize how bat$#it you sound right now?"
the preaching the jw.org thing is so strange.
the two generations "new light" is crazy.
but then again i look back at some of the things i believed and taught wonder 'what was i thinking'?
I agree its about perspective, but the WT has changed some as well in the last decade. The study edition of the WT is radically different, and I believe in recent years the rhetoric regarding the GB has been notched up a bit. College is back to being discouraged, and they are a bit more defensive than ever. The persecution complex is alive and well.
Yet, they have embraced a web presence (kicking and screaming to get there). They have doubled down on enforcing disfellowshipping in the family and keeping "separate" from any material that could challenge their faith.
The main thing they are doing in my opinion, is actually pretty smart. Most of the worlds population is going to be in non-western countries. Asia, Latin America, and Africa are the spots. So there is a GB member who worked in the Philipines now. The literature has been kept or made very simple (simple read edition), to get basic points across to less educated people. This plays perfectly into the demographics of the world at large. And we all know once you have the obedience and someone believes you are Gods chosen ones, then its very hard to break that mind free.
Case in point.
We don't take blood transfusions because the bible says to abstain from blood. Is taking a trasfusion "abstaining"?
No! I guess it isn't.
Right. But don't worry, there is paradise, and doctors don't even like to use blood anymore which just justifies our position as being from God.
Wow. I never knew that.
Done.
Much more complicated is to explain the context surrounding abstain, int he light of the law code and the allowances in it post Noachian creed, and of course then how it related to the gentiles and jews culture issues of the time and Pauls famous words in the meat market.
The numbers will continue to go up.
get ready for all the pointless, stupid speculation folks.
or maybe not, do modern dubs even remember or care about this aspect of their end-times nuttery?.
un panel confronts vatican on child sex abuse by clergy.
In my experience, yes they do. The real ones know that this is an important step, and a unique JW teaching.
catholicism.
islam.
buddhism.
Not to make a big stink, but the "mansion" isn't really a mansion as much as a big house, and it isn't in LA, its in San Diego. You know how you look when the facts aren't just right. Haha.
out of curiosity, i was taking a look at jw defenses email channel, in the discussion section.. one poster said: that article read in context is saying that the churches failed their privilege of being a prophet of god.
but jehovah's witnesses didn't.
if the 1972 wt is read with context then we can realize jw's are the prophet of god and not christendom, they had their chance.. jw defense says: keep in mind that in that article, when the word 'prophet' is used in reference to the witnesses, its always in quotations.
proph•et (ˈprɒf ɪt)
n.
1. a person who speaks for God or a deity, or by divine inspiration. 2. (in the Old Testament) a. a person chosen to speak for God and to guide the people of Israel. b. (often cap.) one of the Major or Minor Prophets. 3. one of a class of persons in the early Christian church recognized as inspired to utter special revelations and predictions. 1 Cor. 12:28. 4. the Prophet, Muhammad, the founder of Islam. 5. a person regarded as, or claiming to be, an inspired teacher or leader. 6. a person who foretells the future. 7. a person who speaks for some doctrine, cause, or movement. I mean I don't think its a very honest use of the word on their part, however number 7 on the definitions above could certainly apply to JW's without having to twist much.
kunming (capital of yunnan province in south china, near the border with myanmar) has a reputation of being a city with a climate of perpetual spring.
neither winter or summer is extreme (on average) so its news when it snows:.
(images from people's daily).
80 degrees in sunny san diego......but we can't build ice hotels for crap here.
here are some highlights from the magazine.
the first article, "imitate the faith of moses", teaches how moses didn't remain in pharohs court, they then skillfully spin getting a decent paying job and career as equaling "enjoyment of sin", and how those who have "enjoyment of sin" will die at armageddon with everyone else who enjoys their job.
here are some quotes from the article.... "when tempted to engage in sinful conduct, ask, what future do i want for myself?....
Worst part is.....just like all of us at one time....won't even notice how this really sounds.
there's an interesting medicolegal issue arising out of tx, a pregnant women who suffered a pulmonary embolism in november and died (when she was 14 weeks pregnant).. however, the body has been kept on life-support all this time (against her and her husband's wishes), due to an ambiguous tx state law (tex hs.
code ann.
166.049) which actually blocks the ability of the patient and family to decide:.
You know.....I would understand it if for some reason the baby was alive or could be kept alive until birth and the father wanted that to happen.....but I am certain that is just not an option. A baby cannot grow inside of a dead woman. This is lunacy. Its a tragedy.
How can a state so concerned with freedom and the right of the individual over the government also make this kind of decision. Religions work at its finest.
i have a close family member who is a pro in using shame to try to make me feel bad.
they are coming to stay at my place soon and the issue of me and mrs hoser not attending/ doing field service will come up no doubt.. i need some advice on how to deal with this because whenever i deal with these relatives they make me feel worthless.
it is probably part because they are jw's and jw's motivate by fear and guilt.. .
Well first is to make sure that emotionally you have already convinced yourself their words don't mean anything.
That is key. Then when they say it, it won't have an effect.
Second, you are opening up your home to them, so if they begin to berate you, just say that you are pretty sure berating someone who opens up their home is not Christian.
Second, make it clear you are CHOOSING not to go to meetings. Its not like you are weak or tired or whatever. You have made a choice, based on spurious teachings and your own conscience (James) to NOT attend meetings.
Maybe its an arguement, but take up some strength in dealign with them, for your own emotional sake.
so here i am after about 18 months of wake up.
the first 6 months were a rollercoster of feelings as my whole belief system unravelled.
the last year has been more stable but things seem like they are just stalling now.. my wife is aware of many of my feelings although i have held back the fact that i am pretty close to denying all belief in any kind of god.
Its a rough one my man. Its not east sailing ahead, but you are kind of delaying the inevitable. You need to really get a plan and get methodical. I don't know how old the kids are, but this has been 18 more months of indoctrination they have gone through. The last thing you want is for your children to shun you because you let it go on too long!
There is a freedom and respect in at least trying to live an authentic life with this. I think you should try it. Just do so carefully. :)