Posts by simwitness

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Do you feel like an idiot?Should you?

by sleepy in

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i was thinking today about all the time i spent on the ministry.. walking down the street with my suit and briefcase ready to defend the truth.. i recalled some of the conversations i had , had.some of the bible studies i conducted, the talks i had given the groups i had taken.. i remmebered the way i defended my faith and belief in jehovah and the jehovahs witness organisation.. how much i must have believed it was the truth.. i spent 3 years as an auxillary pioneer and called on many thousands of people.. yet all along i was wrong.. every time i defened my beliefs i was wrong.. every talk i studied and prepeared long and hard for, i was wrong.. all the things i gave up for the truth i was wrong.. what an idiot.

simwitness

At the time, you believed it was the truth, therefore at that time, you were not an "idiot" for doing them.

An "idiot" would have continued doing those things after he was convinced that they were wrong.

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WAR & RUMORS OF (NUCLEAR) WAR

by You Know in

a question for all to consider is: if pakistan and india go nuclear, as seems to becoming more likely by the day, how long will civilization be able to stay intact without completely unraveling, and during that interval will ridiculers be able to maintain the delusion that nothing out of the ordinary is happening in the world?

/ you know.

> http://www.msnbc.com/news/753586.asp?pne=msn&cp1=1

simwitness

Huh? I was mocking you. You are a bit slow on the up take I'd say.

yet another fine example of the "fruits of the spirit".

You're grasping at straws to prove your point, and failing at that.

Xanders comment above is right on the money.

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WAR & RUMORS OF (NUCLEAR) WAR

by You Know in

a question for all to consider is: if pakistan and india go nuclear, as seems to becoming more likely by the day, how long will civilization be able to stay intact without completely unraveling, and during that interval will ridiculers be able to maintain the delusion that nothing out of the ordinary is happening in the world?

/ you know.

> http://www.msnbc.com/news/753586.asp?pne=msn&cp1=1

simwitness

That article says absolutely NOTHING about the threat of NUCLEAR war, it simply states:

Thousands of foreign nationals have been advised to leave India because of the danger that its confrontation with Pakistan over Kashmir may lead to war.

and in the middle:

Rumsfeld mission
Mr Rumsfeld is expected to spell out to both India and Pakistan the terrible cost of any nuclear conflict for the two countries and the entire region.
Pakistani Foreign Ministry spokesman Aziz Ahmed Khan told the AFP news agency: "We will expect him [Rumsfeld] to tell India to stop its belligerence and talk peace."

perhaps that is the quote you are looking at? The fact that Rumsfield going to spell out the "cost" if such a conflict occurred?

and then at the very bottom of the article:

'Stable' situation
US President George W Bush has warned Pakistan that it must do more to prevent attacks by militants crossing into Indian-administered Kashmir.
He said President Musharraf had promised to stop the incursions and had to keep his word.
Indian Defence Minister George Fernandes said on Friday that he thought the situation between India and Pakistan was stable.
He said troops of both India and Pakistan have been confronting each other for some six months, and he did not think there was any extra worry now.

So, exactly where in this article is the "media trying to scare people with the nonsense about nuclear war" ???

I sure don't see it.

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Why Be AlanF So Narcissistic

by non_trias_theos in

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alanf seem to suffer from ego centricity disorder.

people in thisn place have patted him on back too much it went to his head.

he think that cause he can shuffle a few figures and write terrible papers on evolution book that he ok. he needs humble self and quit taking praise from people.

simwitness

Non -

Respect is an earned thing. Many here have earned my respect, including AlanF, Amazing and even (gasp) You Know.

Their posts, wether you agree with them or not, are generally well written and can help people come to thier own conclusions about things.

Your posts however, are not.

Your entire pourpose here seems to be to inflame people in needless non-sensical banter, that serves no pourpose other than to confuse and distort reality, and distract from what needs to be discussed.

If you have a real issue with something someone posts, deal with it in that thread in an intelligent, respectable manner, and you will be on your way to earning some measure of respect. Continue on the path that you are on, and you will find yourself very alone.

Have a nice day.

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DATELINE: BLACK ART OF PROPAGANDA

by You Know in

hardly anyone has an honest opinion about anything of importance that wasnt craftily pre-packaged and handed to them by someone else whose job it is to craft public opinion.

the intention of the media is to present the illusion of impartially informing, all the while pandering to prejudice and ignorance in order to persuade to a particular point of view.

datelines presentation of the watchtowers child abuse issue was a case study in the black art of media propaganda.. from the very beginning of the presentation dateline was intent on giving the public a negative impression of jehovahs witnesses by portraying us all as oddball crackpots whose religion revolves around the doctrine that we dont celebrate birthdays and that all non-believers are possessed by the devil and that we want them all to die.

simwitness

You know --

Obviously he is working behind the scenes to try and damage the Watchtower any way he can. Are you just pretending to be ignorant by demanding that I prove this and that or are you really that dim? / You Know

You stated that apostates were working "behind the scenes", as if to imply that they were secretive and manipulative. AlanF's statement(s) were nothing of the sort.

Apparently, he is operating right out in the open. And I applaud him for his efforts. (and the efforts of all others involved)

Secondly, his comment does not state that he is doing anything to "damage the Watchtower"... apparently they can do that all by themselves. If the Watchtower is "damaged" it is by it's own practices, not anything someone says.

Again, who created this particular problem? The "apostates" or the WTBS?

Your problem, is that you now see just how bad the WTBS really is, and there is nothing you can do to stop others from seeing it for what it is.

Another reason that the intro to the segment was so powerful, is that the current "preaching work" is so innefective that no one even questions what was stated.

When the Catholic Church scandel broke, no one wanted to believe it was possible.

When this one broke, everyone believed it IS possible, and worse yet HONEST evidence was presented.

By thier fruits you will know them... what fruits does the average person recognize the WTBS for? Go take a poll on the street, find out for yourself.

When was the last time you heard POSITIVE mention of them anywhere? (Outside of thier own propeganda of course).

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JW "Zone", LOLOLOL!

by SYN in

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what do you get when you put a bunch of computer literate star trek fans together on a forum?

mindless propoganda with an enterprise slant, that's what!

to the person (forgotten you nick, sorry) who showed me a link to this site, shot a lot!

simwitness

SYN -

For starters, how do these Dubs justify themselves being on this site? Isn't it perfectly clear to them (as outlined in a recent Awake) that "Star Trek" is a show that deals with people living very far in the future, without religion, and is therefore automatically on the "banned viewing" list?

Is this for real? Scan please!

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WAR & RUMORS OF (NUCLEAR) WAR

by You Know in

a question for all to consider is: if pakistan and india go nuclear, as seems to becoming more likely by the day, how long will civilization be able to stay intact without completely unraveling, and during that interval will ridiculers be able to maintain the delusion that nothing out of the ordinary is happening in the world?

/ you know.

> http://www.msnbc.com/news/753586.asp?pne=msn&cp1=1

simwitness

Again, what "ruling elements" are you reffering to?
Are you back pretending to be ignorant again or can't you really figure it out? / You Know

No, I just want YOU to be specific.

Since I keep asking you the question, apparently you are not answering it.

What I think is the answer to the question is irrelivant to me wanting you to answer it.

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WAR & RUMORS OF (NUCLEAR) WAR

by You Know in

a question for all to consider is: if pakistan and india go nuclear, as seems to becoming more likely by the day, how long will civilization be able to stay intact without completely unraveling, and during that interval will ridiculers be able to maintain the delusion that nothing out of the ordinary is happening in the world?

/ you know.

> http://www.msnbc.com/news/753586.asp?pne=msn&cp1=1

simwitness

Isn't that rather stupid, and evidence of the childish mindset of denial typified by you and Dubula?

I am not in denial of anything. I simply do not agree with your assertions.

No doubt some of this has changed in recent months.
PROVE IT! LOL / You Know

Dubla has already made a fine quote that shows that England is working to change it's laws to solve the issues.

The entire world is working to resolve the problem in India and Pakistan.

Just read the news, and look for the evidence yourself.

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WAR & RUMORS OF (NUCLEAR) WAR

by You Know in

a question for all to consider is: if pakistan and india go nuclear, as seems to becoming more likely by the day, how long will civilization be able to stay intact without completely unraveling, and during that interval will ridiculers be able to maintain the delusion that nothing out of the ordinary is happening in the world?

/ you know.

> http://www.msnbc.com/news/753586.asp?pne=msn&cp1=1

simwitness

No. That's not what I am saying. I am saying that very powerful ruling elements are very much interested in provoking a nuclear war. That will be earth shattering. / You Know

Again, what "ruling elements" are you reffering to? Nothing you have given me so far has proven that statement. So far all you have proven is that "Islamic Extremists" have managed to set up shop in places that we would think they should not be.

Secondly, you can say it all day long, but you have yet to "prove it".

You have proven that "rumors" exist, but nothing more.

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WAR & RUMORS OF (NUCLEAR) WAR

by You Know in

a question for all to consider is: if pakistan and india go nuclear, as seems to becoming more likely by the day, how long will civilization be able to stay intact without completely unraveling, and during that interval will ridiculers be able to maintain the delusion that nothing out of the ordinary is happening in the world?

/ you know.

> http://www.msnbc.com/news/753586.asp?pne=msn&cp1=1

simwitness

ok, so with these links you have proven that "Islamic Extremists" exist, and that some of them are known to be living in England(London) and they have not been handed over, due to England's legal system that appears to protect them. No doubt some of this has changed in recent months.

Also to note, at least a couple of these articles are a number of years old, and the information contained in them is most likely outdated.

Nothing new here. You haven't shown me anything that I did not already know.