Posts by singsongboi

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The Daddy Difference

by teejay in

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my sister sent me this article from the june issue of ladies home journal.

here are some excerpts... .

the daddy difference .

singsongboi

i could relate to your last post also, teejay...

i was there for the birth of my second and third child --- the second after enduring the hostility of the duty nurse, who refused to let me in.

it was an experience -- both to help my former wife, and to see both tania and michael right after birth. micheael looked like mao tse tung at birth, now looks the opposite - the image of my father. could not see the first birth (michelle), as it was "difficult" and the dr. explained, " i'm going to have to do some things that i just don't want you to see".... but, i felt a traitor to my wife in NOT being there to help her.

hope you have many great father(s) days into the distant future.....

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Did you use drugs and go...INSANE!?

by refiners fire in

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when i was 27 my brother held a bucks night party for my first marriage and we went to a strip joint.

de rigeure for the boys bucks night.

it was all a bit of a none event, so next night he brought around drugs to my house, marijuana.

singsongboi

chye and I are veri "theocratic" -- we do things in moderation!!!! well, most of them ...LOL

in our 13 years together, I have had only a few puffs of marihuana, and no exciting stuff like you RF... just the worst bloody headache i have ever had.

and chye -- the only time i have seen him have a puff, was one parade night during the sydney gay & lesbian mardi gras celebration....

he was dancing on the back of a float (NOT bare-arsed) and the thought of being watched by the 700,000 people lining the parade route, was starting to get to him...(going shy like). so he took a few puffs when someone offered him, and dam -- never seen him dance like that --- before or since....

and since then, he resolutely refuses to go dancing with me and i have not seen him have a puff since...!!

so our experiences with the weed are definately tame.. told you, we were "theocratic" !!

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savagery in christianity

by singsongboi in

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been reading some of john boswell's - "the kindness of strangers" , in which he re-constructs the laws and social attitudes, to "getting rid" of unwanted (live) children from roman times to medieval times... .

just wanted to share this story... "the story of the nun of watton".

maybe some of us will relate to the girl in the story..... a 4 y.o.

singsongboi

hmmm! was going to say that you will "enjoy" the book --- but that is hardly the word.

so let's just say that you will find it informative...

it gives an insight into a world that we who live in the western world, can now, hardly imagine.

I have had 3 kids, i loved them dearly...... i cannot imagine "abandoning" them. yet, this book calmly discusses how people did that (but NOT overlooking the pain that they may have felt). The fact that many abandonned children did survive, is a testament to the title of the book - The Kindness of Strangers..

It is a world not that distant from us ( in geographical terms, such conditions are only a few hours flight) in time terms, it's only a generation or so..

about 25 years ago i became good friends with an older sister who came to aust. from england. she told me of being young and a younger brother in the family dying as a 4 yo. He was laid out in the laundry, while they waited for an undertaker to come and measure for a coffin.

when the undertaker arrived, he commented to the mother -- "he was a fine looking young boi", (can you say that anymore without being suspected of paedophilia??).

It was the mothers reply that shocked me... "ah! yes!", she replied, in a resigned tone, "but, we couldn't afford to keep him".

this time of large families (because there were no ways to control fertility) was my parents generation - 14 kids in my fathers family -- my uncle had 16 kids. most of those survived - better medical help (and better plumbing (sanitation)), but a generation b4 that, many more from each family died.

and yet, the WT insists that the world is getting worse....!!

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savagery in christianity

by singsongboi in

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been reading some of john boswell's - "the kindness of strangers" , in which he re-constructs the laws and social attitudes, to "getting rid" of unwanted (live) children from roman times to medieval times... .

just wanted to share this story... "the story of the nun of watton".

maybe some of us will relate to the girl in the story..... a 4 y.o.

singsongboi

Brian---

the story is attributed to Aelred, abbot of the Cistercian monastary at Rievaulx.. The appendix gives a full translation of the story as written by Aelred in the mid-twelfth century...

i gotta admit that i chose the "horror" section for maximum impact, but just like the 20th century experiences that most of us have been exposed to in dub city, there is a "spiritual" ending...

the girl repents of her sins, her spiritual mentors appear from heaven with angels, the baby is taken away by angels (i did not read on to see its fate), the sinning girl acquires a virginal look.... and the point becomes clear....

the tender mercies of jesus rain down on all: "where sin abounded, grace did much more abound."...Romans 5:20.

so maybe it happened , maybe it did not. maybe it's the medieaval equivalent of those jw urban myths with which we all became acquainted when we lived in dub city.

I find it interesting that in christianity, there is this tendency to compare the terrible consequences of sin (with stories like this) with the beatific blessings of repentence....

as many here have said -- the WT pics of armageddon scared them xxxxless.!!!!

not much difference between Rome city and dub city in the end is there???

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The Daddy Difference

by teejay in

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my sister sent me this article from the june issue of ladies home journal.

here are some excerpts... .

the daddy difference .

singsongboi

veri interesting article.... appreciated it greatly.

but then started wondering -- how many kids in today's world?

my guess -- maybe 2,000,000,000!

and how many of them are growing up in "ideal", or even reasonable circumstances..??

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savagery in christianity

by singsongboi in

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friends

been reading some of john boswell's - "the kindness of strangers" , in which he re-constructs the laws and social attitudes, to "getting rid" of unwanted (live) children from roman times to medieval times... .

just wanted to share this story... "the story of the nun of watton".

maybe some of us will relate to the girl in the story..... a 4 y.o.

singsongboi

been reading some of john boswell's - "The Kindness Of Strangers" , in which he re-constructs the laws and social attitudes, to "getting rid" of unwanted (live) children from roman times to medieval times..

just wanted to share this story... "the story of the Nun of Watton". maybe some of us will relate to the girl in the story....

a 4 y.o. girl was "donated" to a convent, but as she grew older found no desire to be a nun. but legally, she was "owned" by the convent,( as her parents had "donated" her to the convent, probably because they could not afford to keep her**) so she could not leave.

she fell in love with a young man who worked for the convent, and had an affair...

when the romance was discovered, the young woman was punished harshly. Flogged, chained in a cell, starved. Kept alive only because of pregnancy.

Possibly, in hopes of being allowed to leave the convent and marry, the girl disclosed the whereabouts of the young man.

He was captured by the brothers (monks) from the adjacent monastary, and given into the custody of the nuns.

They forced his pregnant lover to take a knife and castrate him, and she was then forced to erat his tesicles ..........

our christian heritage is such a blessing isn't it!!!!!!

** this is the subject of the book - what happened to children that were abandoned, left somewhere to die, or given away - the book looks at the laws and rules made by roman catholic societies in particular. It is NOT anti-religious.. just presents it's information in a factual way.

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Jesus and Buddha

by Bhagavad in

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there's a possibility that jesus went to india and was influenced by hinduism/buddhism during the "lost years" between his ages of 12 and 30. see the site http://www.atributetohinduism.com/hinduisms_influence.htm.

fascinating info to review.

if it's worth considering, then we might ask: .

singsongboi

more about the fatuous** fred's comments on buddha!!!!!

fred, you do not even know what jesus looked like.... your descriptive comments about him, are straight out of a hollywood version of his life, but then what can we expect from you...??? even the WTS does not know what jesus looked like (and they have divine direction thru him, don't they???? )LOL!!!!

once they were absolutely sure the jesus was clean shaven, and so presented him as such, and said that "false" religion "wrongly " presented him with a beard.. and this was the subject of much discussion ......then came " new light ". the WTS "listened" to worldly experts and became convinced that Jesus would likely have worn a beard-- so the pix in the WT publications changed and jesus wore a nice, neatly trimmed (sanitised) beard -- well, you could not have him wearing a "taliban" beard, could you????

such shit!!!!

and what do you really know of buddha, and the presentation of him through images??? not much i suspect.

buddha is presented in many forms --- your focus on the representations that depict him as "fat", and your ensuing derogatory comments, is a bit rich, since you come from the fattest nation that the world has ever seen!!!!! (as the Awake once said - 4 asians can live on the food consumed by one american)

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** since this word is not often in the WT - we should define it for fred. it means silly, imbecile -- fatuousness - - unconscious stupidity.

which really does sum up the religious attitudes of jws. -- conceitedly sure of their so-called "faith" - they know so little of what the world "IS", they have locked themselves up in a little mental prison..

trying to reduce spiritual attitudes to a 10 second magazine presentation has produced the most fatuous religion the world has ever seen...

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Jesus and Buddha

by Bhagavad in

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friends

there's a possibility that jesus went to india and was influenced by hinduism/buddhism during the "lost years" between his ages of 12 and 30. see the site http://www.atributetohinduism.com/hinduisms_influence.htm.

fascinating info to review.

if it's worth considering, then we might ask: .

singsongboi

thank you seven006 --- that's veri informative.....

thank you fred hall, for reminding me how dumb most of those in dub city really are!!!! sometimes i forget !!!

i visited thailand a couple of years ago -- went to a temple in bangkok, i sensed i was in the presence of a real spirituality - of the type you NEVER find in a kingdom hall.

i wonder why that is???? How can 6,000,000 religious people (studying the bible 3 times a week) produce hardly anyone with a spiritual presence????

guess, they have all been "hovaed" (heavied) into submission.....

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A Bible study with Moses!!

by roykaye in

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hi guys.

last sunday we had a visiting speaker.

his subject was the resurrection.

singsongboi

if you go along with jw theology.. then all the above is quite logical...

and, in fairness -- most of the brothers when discussing something like this will use the word " may " as in " may be like this...."

that is the way it should be, since no-one knows for sure....!!

logically, if there is a resurrection to life on earth, we could expect a god with organised thinking to perform it in some logical way...

someone will be first.... someone will be last....

the fact, that i (or you) NO longer believe in god or a resurrection to earth OR heaven... does not make this teaching of jws, logical or illogical in itself.

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Candles and JWs

by badboy in

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i wonder how many jws r aware that candles have pagan origins as admitted by bishop newman(sp?

) in the 19th century?

should a faithfull jw have anything to do with candles therefore?

singsongboi

the discussion itself is a little light hearted -- but it does highlight something interesting about life in dub city.....

that is, that in addition to the teaching promulgated by the F&DS, there exists another body of teaching, that emanates from strong minded (and sometimes weird) people..

so long, as this is "exclusive", that is excluding "worldly" things and ideas, those in authority do not take much notice..

but, the moment it becomes "inclusive" suggesting the incorporation of an idea or practise from the world ..... BANG!!!!!.... shit hits the fan..

example, --- it's OK to warn against candles, but trying suggesting placing 2 lighted candles on the table at the Memorial!! LOL!!

Actually, such a practise would not be out of harmony with any bible text, but would be seen by too many brothers as something from fales worship..